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Editor's note: These are comments on R. Scott Moxley's March 10 blog posts from the Haidl Three sentencing. For the full conversation—and, man, it's lurid—see The Blotter.
How can defendants say they were victims of a witch hunt when there is video of three guys repeatedly raping and assaulting an unconscious person?
CAS
March 10 @ 6:22 p.m.
As bad as this was, I still have sympathy for these boys. As guys, we have all known a girl in high school that was easy. This girl would have done all three had she been conscious. The degrading part was reprehensible, but I doubt she would have cared. Had the tape never been found, wouldn't they all be better off?
Steve
March 10 @ 7:02 p.m.
Had the tape NOT been found wouldn't they have all been better off?! Is that a serious statement? After the physical damage done to Jane Doe (as in ripping, internal burns and bruising) and the humiliation of the “boys” bragging to friends, it looks like the only people who would have benefited from losing the tape would be the debased monsters that would even think that sticking a pool cue up a girl's vagina until they could feel it at the top of her uterus was a normal or “fun” thing to do.
CJ
March 10 @ 7:25 p.m.
Judge Briseño should've given Haidl more time. To think he could be eligible for parole in as little as 22 months is scary. The state shrinks pointed out how dangerous these guys are. I sincerely hope Jane Doe can sleep easier and find some light at the end of this very, very dark tunnel. Here's to Jane Doe winning the civil case!
Emily
March 10 @ 8:45 p.m.
A big thanks for the rigorous, first-rate investigative reporting by the diligent and very talented R. Scott Moxley, who kept us all timely informed with his fascinating style of reporting. I believe that he had more guts and pure bravado than any other character in this “play.”
Karen Williams
March 10 @ 9:57 p.m.
I missed work today to attend the entire sentencing hearing from start to finish. Haidl's teenage friends, of whom there were about 20 in court, were rude, obnoxious; one threatened to punch me in the back of the head because I dared to be in line in front of him and his bratty, self-absorbed friends. Maybe they too feel that they can act with impunity. Wonder where they got that idea?
Ricardo A. Perez, Esq.
March 11 @ 12:19 a.m.
If that was my daughter, I would be the one going to jail. I would have shown them what their fun feels like from the other end.
Brad
March 11 @ 2:28 a.m.
Jane Doe knew exactly what she was getting into. That's why they had to try these guys twice. [The Haidl Three] did go too far, but six years or even two is way too excessive! The nurse [at trial] even said that your vagina will show signs of trauma, even if all you have is normal, consensual sex. Be educated about these things so they can't sensationalize on you.
Ray
March 11 @ 5:09 a.m.
There is no way to “sensationalize” sodomizing an unconscious girl with a pool stick or putting a lit cigarette in her vagina.
CAS
March 11 @ 5:33 a.m.
No matter who Jane Doe is and what her character was at the time of this incident, these boys need to be punished for what they did. Otherwise, you can rob anyone because you don't like how they made their money, you can kill someone for having a bad attitude. It doesn't matter what the victim was like: the crime is still a crime.
Danielle Dino
March 11 @ 8:56 a.m.
Justice would have been served almost immediately if the charges were handled in the juvenile court system. The video would have been viewed by a judge, the case facts heard and the sentencing would have followed. The juvenile court process would not have taken four years to complete and it would have been private. Jane Doe and her family would have been protected from the media horror suffered. The defense team would have been able to defend the three boys without battling the media's input. Whoever made the decision to drag Jane Doe, Haidl, Nachreiner, Spann and their families through two adult public jury trials made a political decision.
Debby Bodkin
March 11 @ 10:42 a.m.
The only problem with putting them in the juvenile justice system is that we, the public, would not know anything about the three disgusting rapist pieces of crap known as Greg Haidl, Keith Spann and Kyle Nachreiner. The choice to try them as adults was the correct one. It was the three lying scum and their lawyers who dragged Jane Doe through the mud—their lawyers, their P.I.s and their antics.
CAS
March 11 @ 12:01 p.m.
The late Brad Nowell of Sublime penned the perfect ode to the Haidl Three:
“The moral of the date rape story/It does not pay to be drunk and horny/But that's the way it had to be/They locked him up and threw away the key/Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind/Even though he now takes it in the behind.”
Denilson
March 12 @ 8:47 p.m.
