What's the History of the Mexi-Mullet?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And why don't more Mexicans identify as Indian?

DEAR MEXICAN: I'm a health researcher, and at my job, I work with large data sets, including those on births in California. Approximately half of the births in California are to mothers who have self-identified their race as "white" and their ethnicity as "Hispanic." As we know, the majority of Latinos in California have ancestry from Mexico. I am wondering why so few Latinos identify their race as either Native American or multiracial? We know from genetic studies that many Mexicans have a significant proportion of Native American ancestry. For example, see Fejerman et al. (Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers and Prevention 2010; 19(4): 1074-82), who found that the proportions of Native American ancestry among Mexican women averaged 54 precent among those from Monterrey and 69 percent among persons from Mexico City.

An Angelena

DEAR LOS ANGELES-NATIVE GABACHA: It's no real surprise Mexis would either not mark any other box to denote their raza, or just mark "white." As you most likely know, no one in Mexico wants to identify as Indian because they're at the bottom of the race chain. That stigma still carries over to the United States: Figures from the 2010 U.S. Census showed that about 175,000 people identified as "Mexican-American Indian," which would make this group the fourth-largest Native American tribe in the United Unidos (only Cherokee, Choctaw and Navajo would be bigger). But consider that in "Indigenous Oaxacan Communities in California: An Overview," a 2007 paper by Lisa Kresge for the California Institute for Rural Studies, the estimated population for this group alone was about 350,000—and that's just for the Golden State and doesn't include the many Purépecha, Yaquis, Otomis, Mayas, Totonacs and many other Mexican indigenous groups in Cali. Until there's an incentive for Mexicans to identify as Indian (using an Aztec name to get into the chonis of a Chicanos Studies chica doesn't count . . . yet), you're not going to find many Mexicans identify as indio—sad, but verdad.

Mark Dancey

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DEAR MEXICAN: After having done labor-organizing work with Mexicans, I am greatly puzzled as to why all the white, lower-class Mexicans I have come across have these weird, ratty hairdos that are so God-awful they rival what my male redneck cousins were doing to themselves in the '70s. Why do their brown counterparts know how to style their hair so much better?

No Entiendo Todo Esta Locura

DEAR I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS CRAZINESS: I don't get your obsession with skin tone because the Mexi-mullet doesn't discriminate. It was first popularized in the 1970s by stars of grupera music, a synth-heavy style of conjunto norteño popular in northern Mexico, where redneck Texas' influence predominates. The hairstyle spread to other musicians (see: that guy from Los Tigres del Norte, Rigo Tovar, Ramón Ayala) popular with Mexican immigrant men and trickled down to the fans; it remains de rigeur for any hombre working under the hot sun. And I'll betcha this style will come back among you gabachos: As with Islamic scholars preserving the classics during the Dark Ages, Mexicans take care of fads—raising your own chickens, trucker hats, food trucks, Pendletons—that ustedes "rediscover," much to our bemusement. Silly gabachos!

 
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Art Pedroza
Art Pedroza

Gustavo might be a hipster but he is still grounded in our culture.

gregbpc
gregbpc topcommenter

I wonder whatever happened to the little tagger kid in the park that got caught?  I wonder if his illegal mom was deported?

ayanag1943
ayanag1943

The labels people use to identify themselves don't reveal the actual mixed-race heritage of people in the Americas. In the future, we will identify ourselves according to dna test findings. Latinos, including Mexicans, will find out they are more Indian and black (see Henry Louis Gates' PBS program) than they think they are.

Brainwashed_in_church
Brainwashed_in_church topcommenter

When was the last time you way an Asian dude, Black chick couple?

Juan Rodriguez M
Juan Rodriguez M

Mexican. e. means Indian natives from mexico no mix pendejos

joey
joey

NO HABLA.......

Elizabeth M Sanchez
Elizabeth M Sanchez

Mary Maxfield I wish more Mexicans and latinos acknowledged where we truly came from. I feel shamed that our heritage has been tainted by the spaniards and I wish my skin color was more brown because I carry it with lots of honer... They managed to slowly get rid of our religion and our language.. we use to have our dialogue and even that has slowly been wiped. In certain parts of southern Mexico it still exist and hopefully it does for more generations to come!!!!

Elizabeth M Sanchez
Elizabeth M Sanchez

When people ask me for my heritage, I love to answer aztec and mayan I carry it with lots of pride. . Somos indios at the end of the day and very proud. The funny part is im pretty light skin but is it my fault that our people where tainted with Spanish blood? ? I dont think so...

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

So what 45.7 percent of us are dissatisfied with the jobs that we have and they only filled 143,000 new jobs according to the stats here in California (below average) but there don't seem to be any good paying jobs going around, I only make 9 bucks per hour at $250.00 per week - that's 535.00 bi-weekly, a little over 1,000 per month - $12,000 per year. Half of that goes to rent.


Now go back home. 

Mary Maxfield
Mary Maxfield

from the video posted, one wonders why Mexicans, despite the statistics that say they are mostly of indigenous ancestry, never thought about themselves as indigenous, or have been confused about their indigenous race heritage . . is it just a matter of ignorance, or a forced amnesia of sorts . . . or a systematic genocide not unlike what happned in the north, but ended up being more successful than in the north . . .

Walter Roybal
Walter Roybal

Maybe it has to do with the way the Feds changed the ethnic classifications a few years ago. I don't see mestizo on the list.

Marie Dixon
Marie Dixon

Todos somos indios and lots more: I identify as Heinz 57 : ]

Hassan Al Kalawi Ceratti
Hassan Al Kalawi Ceratti

First im not indian... if here HISPANIC people discriminate calling his own people PAISA , why im going to autodiscriminate clasificating myself as an Indian

Diana Rita
Diana Rita

I never checked any of those boxes, and I've never identified as Native American because i don't know if I have it in my blood. :-/ I know for sure my nephew's father's side of the family is Aztec which i think is bad ass. Maybe i should look into that...but for sure over anything if I had to, I'd mark Native American over white ANY day.

Diana Duran
Diana Duran

@ John Costa - Not all Mexicans blended w/ the Indigenous people. I have an aunt that both her parents are from China and she was born in Northern Mexico. She's puro Mexicana and still living in Mexico.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

People capping on Klavito's DL lifestyle after he gets hitched?  Ju know wha de say "Cuando hay humo..."


The mexi mullet has deep roots.  When dealing with lice infestations the pelo has to go.  Unfortunately the mexis get distracted and stop shaving before its all gone. 


And if you think the mullet is tonto, check out the cholombianos...

John Costa
John Costa

Mexican means part Indian Idiota

Richard Castillo
Richard Castillo

His sexuality does not matter. He can be a trisexual for all I care. These people give an excellent point, the picture and article is in poor taste. But it is what sells. Troy even said it better, why would any Mexican identify themselves as being from India, therefore Indian. Native American, maybe....but not Indian...

Art Pedroza
Art Pedroza

Gustavo just married a wonderful lady. So no he is not gay but you guys appear to be stupid or uninformed. Or just haters?

Wendy De La Puente
Wendy De La Puente

Yes, Gustavo is a homosexual and pretty much everyone knows this. But his sexuality has nothing to do with his idiotic 'ask a Mexican column'

Phillip Lopez
Phillip Lopez

I have to agree that it is strange when you talk about being Mexican and indigenous heritage. I deal with it everyday since my dad is Mexican-American and my mom is from Acoma Pueblo. I have wondered about what indigenous blood, of which I guess there probably is some, I have on my father's side of the family, that side is from Guanajuato . My experience has been that the other Native Americans I've been around tend to look at Mexicans as non-Natives unless they speak some of their indigenous language or practice the culture of their people (this also applies to other Native Americans because they believe that having Native American blood in your veins doesn't make you a Native American. You have to have an appreciation for your culture and the beliefs that are apart of that) .The other thing I have seen is Mexicans thinking that all Native Americans/ Indigenous are the same. This something that Non-Native Americans tend to share, the idea that are so many different tribes in the USA. When I did some volunteer work along with others at the Union-Jackson Farm Labor Camp in Illinois I used to be asked to do translating for some worker that were from southern Mexico and didn't speak much Spanish. I had to constantly explain that my peoples language , Keres, was so different from theirs. I would usually would get comments of , "not even a rough translation we need to know every word"

DonAlbertoDoyle
DonAlbertoDoyle

Mexi, you don't get out enough among the toothless meth-monkeys who represent the 6th or 8th generation of white Anglo poverty, who fail to learn the language, never integrate with civilization, wouldn't work if you paid them, and are completely dependent upon the government.  Among this cohort (known as The GOP Base), the mullet really never left, but is also enjoying a Renaissance.  I think it's part of the Fox Tribe "I don't believe in evolution or global warming because gay Jewish tort lawyers are aborting our shar'ia babies" enforced lockstep conformity of idiocy-- but a mullet and a chicken-fried Georgia accent are de rigueur, to be a member of the tribe, even if you live in Iowa or North Dakota or Kansas, where such accents never existed until about 12 years ago.  To have a mullet and to change your accent to stupid is merely a badge, an emblem of pride in tribal hatred and stupidity, and I hate to tell you, muchacho, but they're back with a vengeance.

Troy Lambert
Troy Lambert

I don't think Mexicans identify with Indians. Natives maybe.

Xander Lombardo
Xander Lombardo

My mom is Mexican and she's Spanish decent not Indian, educate yourself, and Hispanics here are american, you have to be born in mexico to be Mexican, and that is an ugly offensive cartoon

Erk Audelo Leon
Erk Audelo Leon

Pinche gente pregunta puras mamadas, lo siento pero la neta sí. Preguntan cosas que al 99% de los Mexicanos nos vale maíz. Ja, ja, ja, hablandolo por lo claro, dice Don Cheto.

Frank Balcazar
Frank Balcazar

Who gives this gay paisa, the right to voice out for all those of Mexican heritage? This guy is lame.

Michael Ornelas
Michael Ornelas

How many crackers did it take to come up with this image? Pilgrims

Candice Coll
Candice Coll

I have, in Mexico just last week. Supposedly the guy had the hairstyle since the late 80s

Tony A. Alfaro
Tony A. Alfaro

It is true that being recognized north of the border as indigenous people is harder because it is america where it seems every little thing is counted and labled. My wife is Navajo and yes some older tribal elders (as she puts it) dont want to loose culture, heritage and "their ways" which I totally agree and like because alot of us loose our culture especually if we dont have a strong foundation to America once we cross the border. Many of us come here to better ourselves which means cars, houses and supposed freedom. We americanize ourselves and we assimilate. They do have unrecognized tribes in america. Maybe some of us should take some land and become unrecognized tribes, but murricans would consider it poverty and force us to continue salving for corporate profit.

victorrya
victorrya

My Mother is White and my Father was Mexican.  I always check the White box only because once I checked White and Hispanic on a questionnaire and I started getting my mail from that organization in Spanish ONLY .  I was so annoyed by it that I have never checked Hispanic on any questionnaire again.  I'm an American, I speak English and I want my mail to be in English. 

Cesar I. Flores Salcedo
Cesar I. Flores Salcedo

Many of them? All of them! La chicanada always says that they are from Spain.....dont remember which part. ....Chundos.

Al Lopez
Al Lopez

Most mexs use the tribe (group) name more so than indio--azteca, huichol, zapoteco etc.. word indio is considered a joke, an insult---un pinchi indio. Its sad---even word indian is wierd to use.

Byzantine Templar
Byzantine Templar

Sorry about that I meant Mexico too we have brothers and sisters that come from as far as Peru,and Ecuador All Nations dance means All Nations

GUS_HANGS_LIKE_HORSE
GUS_HANGS_LIKE_HORSE

'our people' 'tainted' when white people talk like that they're called racists.....

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

Just stupid. They believe that other folks might buy into their drivel.

Exador
Exador

I always thought he was gay, but from his pictures I thought he was Jewish so there you go...

BIG_GUS_DINGALING
BIG_GUS_DINGALING

@DonAlbertoDoyle oddly they're not the ones invading this country by the millions with 3rd grade educations costing us hundreds of billions and acting like they own the place.....instead of fixing their own 3rd world dumps. 

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

Hm, hitting a little close to the mark. It kinda hurts, doesn't it?

 
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