Is the U.S. Kinder to Legal or Illegal Mexicans?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And should everyone hate Murrieta?

DEAR MEXICAN: I'm not Mexican, but my son-in-law is. He is intelligent, bright, enthusiastic and pleasant to spend time with. He came here illegally with his aunts at the age of 18. He and my daughter are married, have a 3.5-year-old son, and have gone through the entire process of filing papers and paying fees so he could enter the country legally. Last week, at the instruction of la migra, he went to Juarez, Mexico, to apply for his visa. He had his physical after waiting in line for nine hours. Then, he stood in line for his 9:45 a.m. appointment from 7 a.m. until the consulate closed at 4 p.m. He was told to come back tomorrow. He showed up at 6 the next morning and was finally granted his interview.

One question that is asked in the interview is: "Have you ever used drugs?" Well, being the honest person he is and not ever wanting to be accused of lying, he answered truthfully: "Yes, I tried some with a friend about six months ago."

It is from this experience that I have learned our own U.S. Government doesn't care about honest people; it just wants to appear "drug-free." He was told he was banned from the U.S. and to reapply in two and a half years! My daughter is beside herself with grief. She cannot afford to pay for child care without the help of her husband, so she will be forced to quit her job. My grandson believes his daddy doesn't love him anymore or he would come home. And my son-in-law has learned this lesson: If you want to enter the U.S. legally, don't admit to having done anything wrong—period.

Mark Dancey

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My daughter and grandson are now in mental-health counseling, but their plan is to move to Tijuana, where a family member owns a home they can live in. My daughter will commute to San Diego if she can find work. And for the next five years, while they go through the entire process over again, I will miss watching my sweet little grandson grow up. I will miss having my only daughter and best friend with me, and I will miss having my loving son-in-law here, where he belongs, with his family.

I've written to my senators asking for intervention, and I'm going to get an appointment to see an immigration lawyer, but I'm not terribly confident. Do you hold out any hope for them at all?

La Suegra Asustada

DEAR SCARED MOTHER-IN-LAW: Ever hear that canard by Know Nothings that Mexicans don't want to enter el Norte the "right" way? Your yerno is Exhibit Número One on why we don't. Throw in the stupidity of our drug war, and coming into this country legally is unjustly harder than trying to get your tía to write her tamale secrets down in recipe form. Honestly, the best thing for your son-in-law is to cross over illegally, as undocumented folks nowadays seem to have more protection than those who try to do it the right way—and while I have no problem with that whatsoever, how fucked up is it that we've come to this? Wait, that came off VERY conservative, so let me save my Aztlanista reputation . . . ¡A LA CHINGADA CON MURRIETA!

 
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ka2bbz2
ka2bbz2

America welcomes LEGAL immigrants. That means  those coming here legally from any country. Those who are here illegally are a slap in the face to those who have waited long times, studied and worked hard to be legal citizens of this country. There is no reason that any undocumented person be allowed to remain here. The immigration laws of this country need to be strictly enforced to the fullest, elimination of sanctuary and shelters, a prosecution of anyone who harbors  hires or gives any aid to a person or person they know are here illegally. Churches or organization who shelter illegals should have their tax exempt status revoked, their leaders brought up on charges of aiding and abetting of criminal activity. Those who hire illegals need to have their license suspended and hit with a heavy fine.  We need to make room for those who want to come here legally, welcome them with support and open arms. But we also need a secure border and a policy of zero tolerance to illegal immigration

destruction.eva
destruction.eva

Even I know never to admit to drug use or any other illegal act when applying for  entry to ANY country.  Do you think you or I would be granted permission to move to Mexico if we admitted to drug use? 


If it's any comfort to the OP, I'm pretty sure that his daughter and SIL are lying to him.  I'm willing to bet the SIL got jammed up on something a lot more serious than what was claimed.  Who would tell their father  "oops daddy, the feds found out about my hubby's trafficking record, so they rejected his application."

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

yes, my wife made good money at one time. the bike has been paid of for years. insurance is $100 a year, cheap to maintain, and gets 45 mpg. i would say it is very cost effective.

gglez38
gglez38

Like many others I was deported to Mex after spent more than 27 years in Ca, left behind friends,work,but more important my roots: my kids, my oldest y second sons,a heartbreaking situation and frustrating stage of life, LaMigra does never think about family split they yes kick you out and that's it!!!!!!!!

after having a hard time trying to re accomodatte to my new life  in Mex  I find a good job and now I'm free y happy to go anywhere,but still sad thinking about my love ones that we left behind.

modepolizei
modepolizei

OMG people, talk to a lawyer before you do anything!!!!

Part of living int he US is having to deal with the legal culture. I had family who did this painlessly. If you marry a US citizen inside the US and say it was a spontaneous thing then you won't have any problems unless you do something stupid like... leave the country and then admit to doing drugs. (Sorry Suegra)


Gustavo... You need to tell people to talk to lawyers so they can learn their rights. Be better hombre.



Ramzy Earle
Ramzy Earle

The US was built as a country of immigrants. We should be kind to everyone. Now, this does not mean disregarding rules and regulations, but it does mean to follow such in a humane manner.

Gabby Gonzalez
Gabby Gonzalez

I went through the process when they didn't grant your interview the next day but 6 weeks later. It was easy for me but I noticed that to men in particular these immigration minions ask very inappropriate or irrelevant questions. And I was told by someone: if you haven't been caught for it don't admit to anything. Not that I had anything to worry about but FYI for those going thru the process.

Jerry Vazquez
Jerry Vazquez

Adam a huevo que si, estamos comensando una nueva empresa de coyotes de primera clase. Si no te crusamos no te cobramos. Te traemos con coyotes que son buenas personas, que aprecian a nuestros clientes, Y tambien queremos comensar a vender seguros. Si te agara la migra y estas asegurado te volvemos a traer sin volverte a cobrar. Solo con una pequena mensualida de segruo, seguro migra.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

Kudos to la ruca for moving to MX in order to keep the family togedder.  No reason why they have to split.

Joseph Forth
Joseph Forth

Don't encourage continued illegal behavior. Deport them if they are here illegally

Michael Ornelas
Michael Ornelas

Lisandro Orozco Sanz This is what your beautiful OC and newspapers think of Mexicans!! I could never support racism!!

DonAlbertoDoyle
DonAlbertoDoyle

@Stephanie Vazquez:  "Experimental drug use"?  Really?  Marijuana is an experimental drug?  Well, if so, it's a legal experiment for nearly 100 million Americans, including about 50 million in states bordering Mexico.  And yes, in Murrieta.  So, I mean, that's pretty good, telling someone they can't enter a pot-smoking state because they've smoked pot.

Jill Randall
Jill Randall

Just when I thought OC Weekly couldn't possibly become more liberal...

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

I graduated high school here. I have been here since I was a few months old. I'm more American than the president Minus the fake documents. ;-)

Richard Castillo
Richard Castillo

No, blame the ignorance of the people, not the town as a whole...and what does Murrieta have to do with this story?

Derek Garcia
Derek Garcia

Ask an Asian guy how he did it! Its an easy process if you are hungry. We already have enough drop outs and day laborers so that shit wont fly. Fake it until you make it at least

Derek Garcia
Derek Garcia

You already admitted to breaking the law by entering a country illegally might as well deny using drugs

Derek Garcia
Derek Garcia

What a retard!!!!!!! I bet that he did not get sponsorship from a well off friend or have a skill or degree to offer the country. He should have of said no and just admit to smoking weed once a long time ago not 6 months ago with friends. No mention of what drugs he used. We already have enough meth heads on EBT. Move to Mexicali. If you are willing to get an education you will succeed anywhere especially a first world city like Mexicali.

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

That's a good way to get arrested in az john

John Barranca
John Barranca

Adam, just go hang around Home Depot to be a day laborer. LOL

Christian Felix
Christian Felix

It's all bad that we called our own raza illegal wether being born or not here, it doesn't makes us more American, what's an American when the itself fucken word comes from a mother... Foo named Americo Vespucci, tell me what's the ideal of a real Americans, white people just called them Native American, why native American because they wanted to exclude the closest ralated races near by, if immigration do a fucken blood test to see who's most related to the native American they would deported by themselves We don't have to be hating each other everyones deserves a better, we as latinos have to stay strong together

Melissa Lopez
Melissa Lopez

As a wife who is married to a wonderful, hardworking, provider, father, supporter and husband, I know what its like living in the shadows from ICE, especially when your living in a ICE town. I have to drive my husband every where, if we get stop they will take him. We have tried to come up with the money but 10,000 is a lot to take away from our kids but one thing is for sure, if they deport him, they will deport my kids and I. I am sick and tired of this government saying my husbands money is good enough to take from his taxes but not good enough to call him an American.

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

can you bring me back if my appointment goes south? haha

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

look people, i like the article, i just am lost on how illegals have more rights. maybe he was joking???

GUS_HAS_A_HUGE_CORK
GUS_HAS_A_HUGE_CORK

not a true story. nobody is stupid enough to say they used drugs in an immigration interview. lame. STOP THE RECONQUISTA.

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

i am now trying the right way, filed my i 130 last year, approved, now waiting on my appointment day.

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

not lazy, i just can't legally get a job. i am trying the legal way.

Mick Slick
Mick Slick

Similar things happened to former members of the Provisional IRA living in the US after the ceasefire of 1998. One fellow spent 5 years in San Quentin awaiting deportation back to british occupied Ireland because a provision of the Patriot Act stated that anyone who had been a member of a foreign 'terrorist organization' was subject to deportation, regardless of citizenship or visa status. The irony was that britain didn't want him back and had stated that it would not seek imprisonment once he got back to Ireland, since part of the ceasefire stipulated that any member of any paramilitary in Ireland was to be amnesteed. And another twist was that the Provisional IRA had been removed from the US terrorist watch list in 2000......Just goes to show that no one is safe from La Migra.....

Boris Garcia
Boris Garcia

@Adam castro, if you did it the right way, why can't you get a Drivers license, a job or Health insurance?

El Picho Monarcas
El Picho Monarcas

Maybe cause you're 2 lazy to get a job or just get up that damn sofa

Brenda Laird
Brenda Laird

Loved this article! I am married to an illegal who got caught at the border twice, and twice signed papers he had no clue about. Now we know he signed documents agreeing to not enter the country. Well, he did, we met and we got married. And we are not filing paperwork because we fear the same problems at Juarez. And I am not going to Mexico City suburbs to live and wait. We are waiting here, in OUR country, USA, for some kind of immigration reform. In the meantime, we are noth working, paying taxes, being good citizens, praying he doesn't get pulled over since he has no drivers license. Very frustrating.

Adam Castro
Adam Castro

can you tell me how illegals have more rights than those who do it the right way???? i've been here for 31 years and am not able to get a driver's license, health insurance, a JOB, and i sure don't get any free money.

Jerry Vazquez
Jerry Vazquez

A huevo. I'm bringing all my cousins, tios, tias, besinos de mis tios, a concha la panadera a poncho el taquero y a mary la tortillera nomas para que se emputen mas los gringos jajaja.

LBman
LBman

@gglez38 That is surprising. Do you have a criminal record?

centrifuge909
centrifuge909

So? Houses are made of lumber. But you don't keep piling it in once the house is finished. That would be ridiculous. Just because something is made up of something doesn't mean it's a good idea to keep loading it up with that something.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

Don't define my country for me, haji.  And if your culture/society wasn't such a  shithole, you wouldn't have left it to come here.

whateveryousay
whateveryousay topcommenter

It's kind of tough to do that when the government crafted laws to protect them and give them due process.


whateveryousay
whateveryousay topcommenter

You've got it wrong.  "Latinos" do not have to stay strong together.  People have to stay strong together.  Anything that further isolates us into individual groups is a bad idea.


centrifuge909
centrifuge909

Doing it legally to begin with might have been the best idea. But since he didn't, you're right, he's now a prisoner in his new country.

gglez38
gglez38

@LBman @gglez38

Not it all!!!!!!!  maybe three traffic tickets since 1986 to 2012, soon as I graduated from H:S in Mex I moved to the U:S , I also graduated from H:S in Santa Ana College and went for two years to Cypress and SA college, my oldest son graduated from Fullerton Calstate and I supported to pay for school and my second son works in construction ,we only have our bright and pretty U.S citizen princess here in Mex,we were cheated by a bad lawyer and end it all to a judge order to leave the country and eventually of deportation,long story very sad ending,

Gerardo Gonzalez

 
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