Why Are More Mexicans Calling Themselves White?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And would the U.S. government investing heavily in Mexico save the country?

DEAR MEXICAN: The tragedy currently playing out on the U.S. southern border has reminded me to once again ask my three-years-ago-posed, perhaps-more-relevant-than-ever question (slightly tweaked): If the U.S. had sponsored and funded infrastructural, educational, social and economic development in Mexico and Central America during the 1950s to the 1980s in the way the more prosperous countries of Europe helped the less prosperous nations of their region to prepare for membership in the future European Union, would not Mexico and Central America today be considerably more prosperous, healthy and sustainable, as well as better and safer places to live than they are, with less immigration into the U.S.—and immigration therefore a less contentious issue? Could this be a topic deserving of book-length treatment?

Esperando sin Esperanza

DEAR WAITING WITHOUT HOPE: Book length? Try light-year length. A massive Marshall Plan has been the dream of neoliberals in el gabacho and Latin America since the days of James Monroe, and while it makes sense—better for the U.S. to invest in nation-building in, say, Quintana Roo than Iraq or Afghanistan, you know?—it'll never happen. Primeramente, there would be an uproar across Latin America, as inhabitants will always reject overt acts of gabacho government charity in the (understandable) fear that Americans are trying to create a puppet state (see: Nicaragua under Somoza, Cuba under Batista, Mexico under everyone except Lázaro Cárdenas). But even if Mexicans wanted that help, another group of people would be even more opposed: gabachos, who see any act of kindness toward Latinos as weak and sowing the seed for Reconquista.

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Witness the current tragedy at the U.S.-Mexico border, where thousands of Central American and Mexican kids are trying to cross to flee ultraviolence at home. America's reaction? Outrage that those chiquitos are looking for refuge, plus outright assholery from residents in Escondido, California, where residents protested long and loud over a proposal to turn a vacant viejitos home into a temporary housing facility for refugee kids. Compare that with the 1960s, when the U.S. government and public openly welcomed tens of thousands of Cuban kids with Operation Peter Pan. Difference between then and now? In the American psyche, those kids were cute, light-skinned Cubans and useful Cold War pawns; on the other hand, the current niños are dirty Salvadorans and Guatemalans and Mexicans who deserve misery and death back home.

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DEAR MEXICAN: I find that while Mexican immigrants know they are not white, they refuse to identify or accept the fact they come from indigenous people (even partly). Nowhere is this more apparent than in the way we fill out applications asking about race. Although we are free to identify as Hispanic/Latino (an ethnicity), we are also free to mark any/ALL races that apply. More often than not, we leave this blank or mark "white." Why is it that some Mexicans (like me) born on this side are more accepting of Amerindian ancestry, while Mexicans born over there wouldn't dare? My best guess is education. . . .

Xicana Xingona

DEAR BADASS CHICANA: What Mexican in his or her right mind would want to be anything other than gabacho in this country? There's been much made recently of stats that supposedly show more than a million Latinos checked off the gaba box in the 2010 Census, with academic yaktivists claiming the U.S. government duped dumb Mexicans into going white—but please. Being considered white gives you a muy grande advantage in this country, a secret known by everyone from negritos to Irish to chinitos to, increasingly, Mexicans. Indian? In the average mexicano mind, good for pyramids, funny movies and casinos where they can see Pepe Aguilar—otherwise, a vergüenza.

 
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seanmiser110
seanmiser110

We are mutts, long and short.

People in Mexico are mutts, Central and South American are mutts. Caribbean are mutts.

In all areas their are clusters of true indigenous people. 

Further although we do have Spanish their are French German and mixture from Africa during the moorish occupation in Italy, Franch and Spain (before it was Spain)

People have conquered raped and pillaged one another for centuries.

What is a trip to me many Central Americans/South Americans Etc. have a hissy fit  when you accidentally ask "are you Mexican"? then go on a tangent to insist they are NOT! Blah! Blah! blah! I just say get over it! we are mutts, Europeans are mutts, someone  has begat this and that during a time years ago and it will continue the big mix, so grow up and open your mixed up mind!

gitanab76
gitanab76

The reason mean is because if you don't have any Spanish ancestry then you are indian. So you can leave the box in white. I am Mexican from the other side and yes i check the box that white race because my ancestors were french, spanish, mulato and mestizo.

allangreene3
allangreene3

Truthfully Latinos/ Hispanics aren't completely out of line by calling themselves " white " as the majority do have some Spanish ancestry..  Spain is part of Europe ..  Spaniards are caucasian people or " white " if you will ..  Fidel Castro is technically a white man as is Antonio Banderas and even Enrique Iglesias ..  

yiik_y2k
yiik_y2k

I hope Pope Francisco will now allow Catholics to practice birth control, seeing it, at least, as a lesser evil.

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

kids 


of course the picture is offensive to mexicans


BUT leftists know their racist but for a good cause



same thing the dem kkk used to spout

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

MEX-ITES


GOT TO LOVE THEM


sure there are plenty of gangbangers to go around



but the culture works hard and given a chance makes something good for themselves

JGlanton
JGlanton topcommenter

Rent-a-Kidz:


Texas Congressman Henry Cuellar (D-Laredo, TX) spoke to 1080 KRLD in Dallas, Texas:


Officials at Lackland Air Force Base told us that one-third of young girls that come across – and they were just like little babies; 10, 11, 14 years of age. That about one third of them get raped and/or abused on the way here.”


Cuellar says that as he was speaking to Customs and Border Patrol agents he was also discovering a disturbing trend of adults “renting” children in Central America in order to increase their chances of being able to stay in the U.S. once they cross over.


“I was talking to somebody that worked for Border Patrol, and he said that in the late 80′s there were a lot of kids from El Salvador coming in and what they were doing is they had a ‘rent-a-kid’ program.” says Cuellar “In other words they said ‘oh if I come in and I have a kid with me they’ll let me go.” And the Border Agent told him “Henry, I’m seeing this again, I cannot believe it.”

“This is a phenomenon that has gone on for years if not decades,” says George Grayson a Professor of Latin American Politics at William and Mary “As far as I know they pay the families (and remember these economies are in sad shape) and therefore to get maybe a few hundred dollars you’re willing to give up your 7th or 8th child.”


Grayson says that coyotes (smugglers) will often use children as a distraction, “Because your heart goes out to children. If the same group of organized criminals is trying to move drugs you can distract them by having a group of children moving into one part of the McAllen corridor into Texas and then you have your drugs moving in a few miles away.”

Meanwhile Cuellar goes onto say that the wave of illegal immigrants coming across the Southern Texas border has not ebbed at all.


“It still is bad… about 1,200 to 1,500 people they’re catching a day and about 20 to 30 percent of them are kids with no parents.

Perez Ana
Perez Ana

dumb asses white people don't have no culture

Dcd Mario
Dcd Mario

say North American Union in the mirror 3 times and this is what you get

Bren N Briej
Bren N Briej

I can appreciate where you are coming from Stella Sablan I find being called "White /trash" offensive too!

Bren N Briej
Bren N Briej

Keith Burks That is a similar quote to a quote in the children's book..The little Prince. One of my favorites. And very true!

Stella Sablan
Stella Sablan

I am Mexican American; born and raised in California. I find this picture racist stereotyping and offensive.

Keith Burks
Keith Burks

Enough with hate, it's getting boring..Let's get it together and show each other respect no matter where we are from we still share the planet with each other. Let's raise our heads above the ground just enough to see what is possible and Stop tearing each other apart.. Don't waste this life hating. "The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart." Helen Keller

Alex Stouffer
Alex Stouffer

We've sent developmental aid to Africa for decades. Has that helped improve their society, or has it propped up corruption?

Chris Chapple
Chris Chapple

Gabacho is a pejorative term for people of Anglo descent. Ditto for chinito applying to people of Asian or Pacific Island descent. It's quote ironic how Gustavo feels is okay to spout racist bullshit while labeling anyone who disagrees with him as racist.

WhiteyAlmighty
WhiteyAlmighty

Gabacho is a pejorative term for people of Anglo descent. Ditto for chinito applying to people of Asian or Pacific Island descent. It's quote ironic how Gustavo feels is okay to spout racist bullshit while labeling anyone who disagrees with him as racist.

Isaac Contreras
Isaac Contreras

according to south park i'm turken dur jerbbsss Jerry Vazquez

Jerry Vazquez
Jerry Vazquez

Mexicans are natives of this land. europeans and there anchor babies and grandchildren that dont like it should go back to europe.

Jerry Vazquez
Jerry Vazquez

No because they would pay Mexicans as litle as posible and abuse them and rip them off.

Jessica Martinez
Jessica Martinez

Really Bren N Briej I think some people that are born here don't take the opportunity that this country offering. Therefore people from other country will come and take from you.

Nati Garcia
Nati Garcia

If your white and born in the USA, are you consider white?

Bren N Briej
Bren N Briej

PLEASE..Rob then tell your people to stop coming in to our country.."for a better life"! If we took care of our own ..instead of yours..there would be a lot less "White /trash'!

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

"BUT leftists know their racist but for a good cause", would you care to try that again, in actual English, perhaps?

Hatchetwoman
Hatchetwoman

The only dumbass is you. My husband is Czech, specifically Bohemian. They have distinctive cuisine, a separate language, and a genuine culture. Ironically considering your post, it was the Czech who brought their musical influence ( Bohemian Polka).  The song known in Mexico as "El Barrilito" was brought to Mexico in the early 20th century (in the US, it's known as "Beer Barrel Polka), and the musical influence they brought continues today, leading to Tejano and Norteno music (I can't do the accents on my keyboard).

Of course, in California, so many people are separated from their roots that you might be forgiven for thinking "white" people have no culture. You should get out more -- go to cities like Philadelphia, Chicago, or anywhere in the South.  You'll find traditional feasts, food, music, and customs from Italians, Germans, Poles, Greeks. Heck, get out to the suburbs.  Go to an orthodox church during their festival, or go to the Irish or Scottish fairs in the area.  Educate yourself so you don't sound like another dumb beaner.  I'm Mexican myself, but I hope I was never as ignorant as you are. 

mike
mike

That is no true. The USA is a Multicultural country, a country of Immigrants from many different parts of the world. However there is a dominant culture here, since the founding of the nation in 1776. The country was founded by British settlers, who brought with them their English language and Christian faith. Sports developed here, like Baseball, American football and basketball. The US is still a predominately English speaking and Christian nation, with many minority communities who speak different languages and practice different faiths. But there is a culture, largely English speaking and Christian, as is Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It is the same way Mexico is largely Spanish speaking and Catholic or Brazil is largely Portuguese speaking and Catholic. Every country and people have a culture.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Imagine what it would be like without the Aid.

armandocdll81
armandocdll81

They may be natives of this land but being a largely illiterate, unskilled and culturally debased population they were unable to retain it for long. 

victorrya
victorrya

Mexicans and South Americans do not come to the United States for the land.  They have plenty of land.  They come here for the American way of life.  For clean water, free meals, a free education, free health care, and community services.  None if which would have existed if not for European settlers.  Mexico and the South American countries have access to the same natural resources as the United States. Why they have never been able to establish a similar way of life is obviously a much more difficult topic of discussion. Why are Americans so upset about sharing their good fortune?  The cost to taxpayers. On average states spend $8000 a year for each child's public education. Over the course of 13 years each child will cost the the taxpayers approximately $104,000 not including the costs of health care, free meals, earned income child tax credits and social services. The answer is so much more complicated than simply saying let them stay or send them home.  We need a real solution.  Unfortunately I don't think anyone knows what that is.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... if you're illiterate and undereducated, yes.

WhiteyAlmighty
WhiteyAlmighty

Get off Gustavo's jock. He is a grown man and can defend himself.

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

True, my confusion is mine, but the fault is yours.

OK, I'll bite, "... leftists know their racists (whats?) but for a good cause". How is your lack of proper English my problem?

Their attitudes? Their opinions? Even with an object inserted the sentence needs help. Did you mean, perhaps, "they're"? It would still a poorly constructed sentence. You choose a wrong word, write a poorly constructed sentence, and it's MY fault for not understanding?

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

@BillxT



in typical leftist form, you need to act confused so you can deny the pov which destroys the bedrock of your philosophical existence 

 
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