Will Mexicans In SoCal Root for Mexico or the U.S. in the World Cup?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And why do Mexicans sometimes pretend not to know English even though they do?

Dear Mexican: I'm a half-mexicana, half-gabacha working as an appointment scheduler in a medical office. I'm one of a handful of schedulers there who speak Spanish. I've noticed in the years I've been working in this field that about seven to eight times out of 10, when a Spanish-speaking patient calls and gets one of the schedulers who doesn't speak español, they'll wait for me or someone else to call them back . . . and the patient actually speaks English well. I only find this out because (since mi mamá mexicana always told me to never assume someone can't speak English and do him/her the courtesy by waiting until he/she requests Spanish) I call back speaking in English and they respond in English. I don't mind speaking Spanish with any of my patients—in fact, I'm happy I can be of service—but it makes me wonder why anyone would want to wait and waste precious time to get their health situated by not speaking English if there is no Spanish speaker available at the time (given they have the capability). Some of my patients really need the help and I am ready para hablar, but others probably have better English skills than several of the gabachas I know.

Appointment Desk, This Is Chiquita Curiosa. How Can I Help You?

DEAR GABAPOCHA: Sometimes, Mexicans who can speak English pretend not to so they can gain an advantage over their gabacho adversaries—the classic "No espeak English" ruse when either trying to get out of a situation or trying to make the gabachos think they're a stupid Mexican. Other times, the English-knowing Mexican will still prefer Spanish because they can be more exact. That seems to be the case here, especially given you're in a medical profession and some Mexican health practices just don't translate well into the King's English. How do you tell your doctor, for instance, that your mom's remedy for a broken clavicle is Vicks VapoRub and 7-Up?

Mark Dancey

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DEAR MEXICAN: For those of us living in California, the FIFA World Cup is a big deal. Since we have such a huge Mexican population that has been here a while, is it a safe bet that they root for the U.S. team and the one from Mexico? I know that I tend to place my hopes on Mexico once the Americans get the boot in the first round. Couldn't we get a little more love going for our SoCal community by making our support in the World Cup international?

Soccer Gabacho

DEAR GABACHO: Historically, no Mexican in the U.S. would ever root for los Estados Unidos—not so much because it was considered traitorous, but mostly because the team was middling at best and uber gabacho. That has changed in the past generation, as the U.S. has not only become a mid-level power that consistently whips Mexico's ass on the pitch, but also because the squad is now diverse. At the same time, El Tri has underachieved behind the fresa foot of Javier "Chicharito" Hernández ("Little Pea," so nicknamed for the size of his huevos) and the most overrated Mexican since Maná. Most Mexican-Americans will still root for Mexico over the U.S., but there's at least a grudging respect for the norteamericano side—and at least brown members of Uncle Sam's Army don't get pelted with urine bags anymore . . . much. Nevertheless, I don't see a fruitful Mundial for either team, so Mexicans will probably do what they did during the last Cup: suddenly discover their Spanish roots, and go for the goal-getting gachupines.

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wunderbar
wunderbar

Are you kidding? Even team USA coach (by the way a German) doesnt think USA has a chance. As an American of German descent I will be rooting for Der Vaterland and hope that if they meet Mexico that they stuff em good and plenty! Afterall Germans taught the Mexicans how to play fussball (that's German for soccer not the tabletop game), bier making, and play musik as well as making cars. They'll be giving team Mexico a good soccer clinic should the two meet.

chriselettro
chriselettro

We fucking own El Cry.  Chicharito is a little bitch.  Michael Bradley has chunks in his stool bigger than Chicharito.


2-0 is all you need to know.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

Mexicans would root for Richard Ramirez and Juan Corona before they would root for the U.S.

Brainwashed_in_church
Brainwashed_in_church topcommenter

I don't care what team people root for. Just like the Olympics, the World Cup is very unscientific. Huge/wealthier countries will obviously have a greater pool of talent to draw from or more resources and their teams would be expected to perform better. What is more remarkable is when a small or poor country defeats a large or wealthy country. Professional soccer (or any other sport) is more scientific and representative of determing what "best" means. Pro is still regional too - I like when Southern California teams win eventhough none of the players may be from LA.

mexicanssuckbigdick
mexicanssuckbigdick

cmon, give them Mexicans a break.. after a hard day of standing at the home depot and harassing customers, they deserve to cheer for their pathetic team

Beto Garcia
Beto Garcia

This article is all over the place. It starts off talking about the fact the many Spanish speaker that are able to communicate in English choose to wait to be helped by a Spanish speaking representative, in this case in the healthcare industry. This FIFA issues was it put in this article to dismiss what this article is about. I mean what does Soccer have to do with the main issue. Personally I rather speak to an American that I can freely speak to them in English, Spanish and Spanglish. I dislike speaking to some random person outside of the country that does not understand my concerns and when they reply they only respond from a peace of paper given to them as if they could not think for themselves. But I know a lot is Spanish speakers from Mexico prefer to speak to another Mexicano because they not understand what is being addressed but also understand our passion and culture and what we need thus providing more effective assistance. As far as getting help during a medical "issue" what difference does it make if you get help from someone we can partially understand and vice verse or if we wait?

Diana Silva
Diana Silva

It's funny when people comment and don't even read the article.

Lily Arechiga
Lily Arechiga

When Mexico plays I'll go for Mexico. When USA plays I'll go for USA and if they play against each other le voy al que gane. No need to choose.

Jerry Vazquez
Jerry Vazquez

Yo naci en los estados rovados y yo nunca le voy a ese inche equipo de gringos. Solo le voy al equipo Mexicano aunque pierdan no le ase Viva Mexico. El Mexicano que le valla a el equipo gringo es culero. Pero muchos no son Mexicanos muchos son centro americanos o sur americanos y luego disen que son Mexicanos pero no lo son. Y no te metas on el Chicharito. El que diga cosas mal de el que se meta a el equipo y que meta goles aver si es tan fasil.

aperez435
aperez435

why do you even talk about mexican soccer , you dont know shit

aperez435
aperez435

You don't know crap about soccer Gustavo , have you heard about Uribe Peralta , he has taken Chicharitos place now, the guy is far from fresa , 

Candace Mendoza
Candace Mendoza

i believe all cultures believe some are not not proud of their cultures but look passed the bad an look at the good things that are happening in ur culture. i so love all cultures they have great food an beautiful language.

Gabriel Rocha
Gabriel Rocha

Puro pinche USA! (Mexico #2!) Pero Germany will win, I think.

John Juan Adams
John Juan Adams

This Gringos faves for the World Cup are; Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica, Germany.

Miguel Villalpando Jr.
Miguel Villalpando Jr.

No I agree and yes recently (6 yrs) you have been seeing a lot more with hispanic background players on the team. I will say this it's not easy being a US supporter with Mexican heritage. You have to deal with a lot of ignorance and just have to either ignore it or try to educate them.

Hector Becerra
Hector Becerra

On the other issue, I don't know a lot of people who speak Spanish and pretend they don't as a practice. I can tell you I've run into more than a few who talk about how Mexican they are who can't speak a lick of Spanish, or who speak it very poorly.

Hector Becerra
Hector Becerra

Miguel Villalpando Jr.: the US team has only developed that makeup relatively recently. But it's great and I think the team will be better for it not for some token multiculturalism for the sake of multiculturalism reason but because it's tapping into the country's broader wealth of talent. I'm not a diehard futbol fan , that said.

David Vazquez
David Vazquez

I've seen people who speak spanish pretend NOT to be able to do so, only english, as if they're trying to hide something and/or impress others, it's weird

Miguel Villalpando Jr.
Miguel Villalpando Jr.

I guess Omar Gonzalez isn't enough. Parents from Mexico, born in Dallas, Texas, first generation and is American and plays for the US national team. What more do you want? Need more? Joe Corona, Nick Rimando, Hercules Gomez, Michael Orozco Fiscal (the one that scored a goal and gave the US their first win at La Azteca). Get over the fact of "them" not looking like you. The US is a multi-cultural team. We are a melting pot and that's what makes this country beautiful

Victor Salas
Victor Salas

When it comes to choosing who to root for in any sport, I always stand by the US. I could care less about politics, history, or whether there's any Raza on the team. I was born in this country plain and simple. I literally no longer have roots (that I know of) In Mexico, simply because my Granfather and his brother moved the entire family to the US during the Bracero program. And before people think: "so that explains his original post" we're talking about sports here. As far as politics and history are concerned, every Mexican/Latino/Hispanic etc... legal or illegal, has a right to come to the country period!

Hector Becerra
Hector Becerra

Historically the U.S team didn't feature and didn't seem interested in cultivating Mexican-American or Latino (outside of Argentinian) talent. It's hard to root for a team that doesn't have players that look like you in a sport where there should be no excuse for that. I'm sort of agnostic on this as I think Mexico has historically fucked up its selection, sometimes by politicizing it, and that until recently the U.S selection has more or less blown off trying to make inroads by grooming and seeking Latino players.

Adolfo Rene Morales
Adolfo Rene Morales

I´M born and raised in California. My family is in Costa Rica. I AM ROOTING FOR COSTA RICA AND THE USA. (by the way,in the last qualifying game Costa Rica beat Mexico 2 to 1) VIVA COSTA RICA!!!

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

Immigrants from Mexico root for U. S. Team because the U. S. expats in Mexico root for Mexico? Some do some don't, I can think of more interesting things to get excited about than the business of professional sports.

Lynn Maners
Lynn Maners

Similarly with the French. They pretend not to speak English, until you struggle to communicate in French, then they say "Oh, I have a little English" and then proceed to speak excellent English with you...

Victor Salas
Victor Salas

I also forgot to mention that this happened when I first moved to the I.E. back then, It was a total different mentality In early 2000s where Mexicans actually tried to hide the fact that they knew little English, and Mexican kids looked down on upon Raza and Culture. That is until more Mexicans pretty much took over, and now just like every other place with a strong Mexican community, you can't walk around without hearing Banda or the elotero/raspado guy honking a horn. lol

gregbpc
gregbpc topcommenter

I go for 1. USA  2. Germany  3. Brasil.    Even though I am of German heritage, I am American first.

Victor Salas
Victor Salas

@ Jose Amaro Actually, I didn't get that reaction from them at all. The person admitted that they were indeed being prideful about it and basically thought I was just another pocho trying to look down on them ( lost in translation, I forgot to mention that I said everything i in spanish, I unfortunately don't know how to write in Spanish well. Hence the reason why I wrote it in English). They were glad and actually were surprised that I wasn't ashamed to speak Spanish. I let them know that I grew up in Boyle Heights, where you can actually get your ass kicked for being ashamed of speaking Spanish or let alone Raza and culture.

Ruben Rubalcaba
Ruben Rubalcaba

I root for both but in head to head, USA all the way.

Jose Amaro
Jose Amaro

Perhaps you should consider a career change because customer service is not for you. Anyone trying to learn the language of their new home should be commended. As proud as I am que puedo hablar un poco de Español, yo se que learning English is very important for anyone living in this country. Instead of putting your own down, recognize the effort they are making and give them some encouragement; Help them learn how to fish on their own. Believe me, they are not trying to prove anything to you.

gregbpc
gregbpc topcommenter

She said they speak English, but would rather waste someone's time.  I think it just shows the arrogance and self-entitlement many illegals/Mexicans have.

ninguen
ninguen

@gregbpc Or they just feel insecure about their English skills. Or they want to explain more exactly what happens to them. Or even if they speak it well it's difficult for them and requires a lot of effort, thus wasting even more of everyone's time. Or they may speak it well in a ordinary context, but they lack the vocabulary required in a specialized context, like a visit to the doctor. 

Or they just feel more comfortable, those effin entitled people. Think - if you were abroad in a country were you needed to speak another language, how would you feel more at ease? Speaking your mother tongue, the language you've spoken your entire life, or speaking some other language that you've only spoken for some time while you lived there? I think the answer it's obvious.


gregbpc
gregbpc topcommenter

@ninguen They call to make an appointment, not diagram a sentence.  If I lived in a country, I'd be damn sure to learn the language.  I picked-up on learning Portuguese after a few months of self-study, and being in Brasil for 2 months.  I wasn't fluent, but I could get by, and understand much of what was being spoken.  Face it, many Mexicans, (especially illegals, don't feel the need to learn English, because we cater to their every demand.

 
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