Tustin PD's Thin Dude Line

[Moxley Confidential] Tustin police fail to kill federal lawsuit over alleged lies, brutality

Tustin PD's Thin Dude Line
Bob Aul

On Oct. 15, 2009, Edward Rezek committed a horrific crime that highly trained members of the Tustin Police Department thought required a violent response. After nearly being struck by a car while in a crosswalk, Rezek fired 15 bullets from his Glock into the body of the inattentive driver and threw two grenades into the vehicle. Immediately before the bloody explosions, he laughed and ducked for cover.

Don't remember related Los Angeles-based TV news reports?

That's because the aforementioned scene never happened. Rezek was, in fact, unarmed when he reacted to being nearly run over. He simply slapped the hood of Jose Reyes' private-patrol-company car, lectured the on-duty security guard (and the man's partner) about poor driving skills, and then walked away.

But for Tustin PD cops Brian Chupp and Mark Turner, the hood slap became an opportunity to flex their government-issued police power. According to court records, the plain-clothed officers rushed to the scene, located a nearby Rezek calmly talking on his cell phone while standing in line to enter the Auld Dubliner Pub at the District and, without identifying themselves, forcefully dragged the man to an intersection where Reyes was waiting.

"Is this the asshole that vandalized and punched your car?" asked the cops.

Reyes replied, "Yes."

Still not bothering to identify themselves as public servants, the officers knocked a startled Rezek to the ground and yanked his right arm high behind his back. When the victim screamed that they'd broken his arm and pleaded for help from onlookers, the men ordered him to shut up. According to court records, the officers then forced Rezek's mouth into the dirt, slammed a knee into his back and choked him until he was nearly unconscious.

A worried, independent witness—an employee at the pub—was so concerned about the one-sided violence that when he ran up to stop the attack, the men finally identified themselves as cops. After handcuffing Rezek and placing him in a police car, the officers refused to acknowledge his injuries and declined his request that they do Cop Work 101: Get the names of witnesses. Eventually, a paramedic arrived and determined an ambulance should transport Rezek to the Western Medical Center's emergency room. A doctor diagnosed a fractured elbow.

But the alleged police abuse wasn't over. The officers seized him for committing vandalism (striking the hood of the car) and resisting arrest. To bolster their case and justify their violence, Chupp and Turner concocted a deceitful official report that recounted how they'd immediately identified themselves as cops and a combative Rezek confessed to "punching" the car. The officers also disingenuously reported that they witnessed the entire incident and that Reyes never entered the crosswalk. Those claims of alleged police corruption are contained in a federal civil-rights lawsuit Rezek filed against the officers, the private-security team, Tustin PD and then-Chief Scott Jordan.

To shield Chupp and Turner, police officials employed a loophole in California law that allows law-enforcement agencies to keep police personnel files a secret from the public. Officials placed witness statements eventually collected during an internal-affairs probe inside the officers' personnel files, and then declared the records of the crosswalk incident were top secret. An appellate court eventually rejected the tactic.

Thomas E. Beck, the plaintiff's Los Alamitos-based attorney, wrote that Tustin cops blatantly "exploited their positions of authority," the department had a "deliberate indifference to the rights of the public," and his client genuinely feared for his life during the assault.

"Chupp [falsely] claimed he and Turner approached [the] plaintiff in line and allegedly overheard him on his cell phone say, 'I just punched the shit out of one of the security cars, and the security guard was too much of a pussy to do anything about it,'" Beck wrote in one of his court briefs. "Plaintiff never spoke these words or anything like them. Rather, he was conducting business with a client on the phone when seized and the phone knocked out of his grasp."

Beck also wrote, "Chupp further falsely claimed he approached [Rezek], showed him his police badge, identified himself, and [peacefully] walked Rezek out of the line."

During the civil litigation, prosecutors in the Orange County district attorney's office decided to mount a three-year effort to win two misdemeanor convictions based on the officers' version of events. A February 2013 jury convicted Rezek of vandalism, but found him not guilty of resisting arrest. As punishment, a judge ordered him to undergo probation for three years, perform 10 days of physical labor on the side of a highway and attend an anger-management program.

What happened to Chupp and Turner? Nothing. After reviewing an internal-affairs report that apparently did not address the allegations of police brutality, Jordan—who'd promised an unbiased probe—decided his officers' performance outside the pub "did not constitute misconduct under the circumstances."

In July 2010, the Tustin City Council also ruled the crosswalk incident an example of good police work, noting as unassailable fact that Rezek "resisted and struggled with the officers" and he didn't complain of "pain to his right arm" until he was already in custody. The city's officials hired Costa Mesa-based private lawyers who've repeatedly tried to kill the case before it can reach a jury. Two of their key arguments include that police officers should be automatically immune for on-duty acts and the veracity of their criminal case was confirmed by a guilty verdict on the vandalism charge.

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g7889118
g7889118

Here's an invitation to Mr. Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project,

If you want to prove your point, post some stories of the good cops reporting the bad ones on our website. http://occopwatch.com/add-your-video/

Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

We Publish 100's of stories of police corruption and misconduct, let see how many you can post.

Rsmith714
Rsmith714

They (police) need to stay out of Santa Ana and stay in Tustin. I always see them stopping people in SA.

AJM316
AJM316

Those cops should be shot

jzur84
jzur84

My brother and I have been pulled over twice  by Tustin PD for driving my dad's red Dodge Ram. They claim that they tail lights were out. Not true. They were probably trying to nail us for driving a truck that looked too Mexican with its nice rims and family last name on the back windshield. I wouldn't doubt anything about Tustin PD.

mhip
mhip

They'd rather see me in the pen, than me and Lorenzo rollin' in a Benzo...

roman_archer
roman_archer

Just caught this story on Channel 7 news: A jewelry store in Florida was  recently robbed by a couple of smash and grab thugs. The whole vicious crime was captured on video surveillance. The interesting part is that the first police officer to respond was also captured on the same surveillance camera reaching into smashed display counter and pocketing an $800.00 watch. Priceless.

roman_archer
roman_archer

Another great article Moxely. These type of stories are unfortunately being played out throughout the county (as well as the country) on a daily basis. I urge everyone to know their constitutional rights and exercise them. Always record the police, even if it's over something you have no involvement in. And don't EVER let a police officer tell you that you can't record their activities. You have a constitutional right to record public servants in a public place while preforming their activities. They may tell you otherwise, but that's because they are scared. They are scared of civilians who know and exercise their constitutional rights. Throw in the fact that they are being videotaped and they will fold like a deck of cards. I recently witnessed a cowardly act by a Huntington Beach police officer. An elderly homeless woman was laying down on a concrete bus bench. An officer in a marked SUV drove his vehicle up on the sidewalk and then proceeded to lay on his car horn while the front of his vehicle was less then two feet from this ladies face. One slip up and he would have hit this lady with his vehicle. Not to mention slamming the car over the curb is probably not the best thing for the vehicles alignment. This is a very small example of the way police treat people. It was cruel and cowardly. How I wished I'd had my camera ready. Now I carry it everywhere with me. Do I consider myself a cop hater? Absolutely not! But on the flip side I feel there are far to many criminal cops on duty and there is far to much emphasis on generating revenue as opposed to doing work solving crime. Just for fun, go to google and enter "why do police officers" in the subject field. The first suggestion listed to finish this query is "become involved in misconduct". The next suggestion on google to the search "why do police officers" is simply the word "cheat".

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist


The Superior Court proved everything Mickadeit wrote about me and the Minuteman Project were blatant lies that he simply quoted from sources that were his long-time personal friends who had infiltrated my organization.  You cannot get dirtier than that in the journalism profession.  


Not once, as I recall, did "dirty Frank" ever update the public about the outcome of those court proceedings and how my adversaries virtually had their fannies handed to them by Judge Wilkinson.  


As a former newspaper journalist with an impeccable reputation for writing truths, not fantasies, about persons,  

I am disgusted with second rate journalists (like Mickadeit) who would use his or her position to deliberately pump incorrect and hatefully biased information into a newspaper's readership


Such conduct, back in my news reporting days, were met with swift firing for the dirty culprit by the news editor.  Not so today, which is why the public must be constantly wary about what they read in newspapers.  


There are more people of in the news profession, in my opinion, of atrocious character than you would ever find in a police department.    


Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist


I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.


The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.


However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)


I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.


Sincerely Presented,


Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal


chulavistafoto
chulavistafoto

Being a recent new resident of Tustin, and as a person keenly interested in police misconduct/police violence, I find this article very disturbing.  Police are masters at cloaking their misbehaving ways by accusing the victim citizen of obstruction of justice, resisting arrest and a myriad of other penal code violations.  Being a police officer is about power and they love to abuse that power. 

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

I am a firm believer that a few bad apples should not condemn the whole orchard...but how can the orchard survive if no serious efforts are made to eliminate the blighted fruit?

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

If thats true, THEY WAY YOU DESCRIBE the way it went down


30 years each plus a hefty $$fine



GOOD POLICE WANT BAD POLICE OFF THE FORCE 

jonboys55
jonboys55

How soon we forget Bullies With Badges, in which Chickenhawks OC Deputies committed cowardly bullying on a real hero, Marine Sgt. Montoya, The Navy Cross recipient for bravery. In USA, cops are dangerous for women, wives, GFs, ordinary citizens, family pets, etc. Read 'Why Cops Lie' by former SF Police Chief--because they can and not be prosecuted jailed, fired..

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

I read Sir Moxley's latest screen play.  Nothing like a good piece of fiction and fantasy to attract the attention of a Hollywood producer.


Mr. Moxley writes well, however, readers should be forewarned that his journalistic forte is fictional entertainment for criminal-minded people-hating cop-haters.


Moxley is as non-credible as his dirty journalist counterpart, Frank Mickadeit of the OC Register.


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project


-The first casualty of propaganda is the truth-

-the next casualty is the victim of a witch-hunting lynch mob-


NotAgain
NotAgain

Yawn.

Another article by Moxley regurgitating one sided and unsubstantiated allegations from a plaintiff in a police lawsuit.  Reporting requires more than copying and pasting from a downloaded civil Complaint from PACER.

Another yawn for the predictable followup comments from paullucas714 and Moxley's other fellow cop haters who post the same thing on every single police-related post.

paullucas714
paullucas714 topcommenter

POBRA and POBOR must be repealed. This law that lets cops get away with so many criminal acts is a violation of the 14th amendment and a threat to public safety.

Nick Riviera
Nick Riviera

The moral of all these stories: Forget about getting justice in the courts against police brutality, the only way to get justice is with Christopher Dorner style vigilante justice!

OCCOPWATCH.COM
OCCOPWATCH.COM

@jimgilchrist  Here's an invitation to Mr. Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project,

If you want to prove your point, post some stories of the good cops reporting the bad ones on our website. http://occopwatch.com/add-your-video/

Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

We Publish 100's of stories of police corruption and misconduct, let see how many you can post.


OCCOPWATCH.COM
OCCOPWATCH.COM

@jimgilchrist  Here's an invitation to Mr. Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project,

If you want to prove your point, post some stories of the good cops reporting the bad ones on our website. http://occopwatch.com/add-your-video/

Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

We Publish 100's of stories of police corruption and misconduct, let see how many you can post.

roman_archer
roman_archer

@jimgilchrist Once again, an article in the OC Weekly that has NOTHING to do with Jim Gilchrist, yet Jim Gilchrist feels the need to interject himself into the comments section to make the article all about Jim Gilchrist.  I think the Weekly should have a special category for Jim: TOP NARCISSISTIC COMMENTER.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

The "few bad apples" mantra will one day go the way of the dodo bird. You have hundreds of criminal cops in OC alone. Idiots who think that their oath and the US constitution are a roadblock to career success.

roman_archer
roman_archer

@jimgilchrist Whenever I see comments from Jim Gilchrist, I immediately think of the song by The Minutemen (legendary SST Recording artists, not the hate group) entitled: "Little Man With The Gun In His Hand". If D Boon was still alive, he'd have a field day with Jim.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@jimgilchrist  Hola Minister Jim! I want to register a sincere protest for Frank Mickadeit. I couldn't care less about your golf course, bar . . . stool . . . stupid rantings on me, but Frank's OC Register prose on your despicable lack of character was one of his greatest contributions to SoCal journalism. Have you run over any better educated brown skinned people lately?

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

@NotAgain  for the record, this ´´fellow cop hater´´ hated cops so much that I was risking my Latino behind on Colombian mountain tops providing surveillance security tools for among other things the Colombian police. 

GustavoArellano
GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

@NotAgain Another regurgitated whine from a police apologist who gets turgid at the sight of a badge. Hey, pendejo: The OC Register is thataway.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@NotAgain  Double yawn! Thanks, cowardly "NotAgain," who isn't brave enough to bark using her real name or badge number! The public deserves to know about cases of police corruption and, if that pains you, I'm so sorry. But, given your particular hand-wringing, be prepared for future OC Weekly reports on alleged scumbag cops. Trust me, they are coming...

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@OCCOPWATCH.COM @jimgilchrist  


Thank you for your invitation, however, I am too busy investigating "dirty" journalists who, in their delusions of grandeur, bogusly hold themselves out to be fair, balanced, objective, and quintessential saviors of mankind.


BTW, Mssr. R. Scott Moxley missed the deadline for accepting my invitation to boldly meet me for coffee. 


I knew he would quiver at the thought of facing me in debate.  Besides, I was somewhat reluctant to engage in philosophical debate with an unarmed person.  



Sorry you have so much hatred for law enforcement. You'd make a great propagandist for your idol, Señor Guzman, the drug cartel kingpin and mass murderer just captured in Mexico by US and Mexican law enforcement.


Graat job by cops, don't you think?


Your web site stinks.  It's very amateurish.  


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and non-stop President of the Minuteman Project 


Dweezle
Dweezle

@18usc241 and sorry to say they have a District Attorney that backs them 1000%

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@roman_archer @jimgilchrist  Thank you for your supportive comments.  Yeah, I guess it would take someone like Daniel Boone, or Hulk Hogan, to take me on.  I've never really thought of myself as that threatening, but apparently you do.  


Now, it's time for you to change your diapers, kid.  Sorry I made you dump in your panties.





jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  


The Superior Court proved everything Mickadeit wrote about me and the Minuteman Project were blatant lies that he simply quoted from sources that were his long-time personal friends who had infiltrated my organization.  You cannot get dirtier than that in the journalism profession.  


Not once, as I recall, did "dirty Frank" ever update the public about the outcome of those court proceedings and how my adversaries virtually had their fannies handed to them by Judge Wilkinson.  


As a former newspaper journalist with an impeccable reputation for writing truths, not fantasies, about persons,  

I am disgusted with second rate journalists (like Mickadeit) who would use his or her position to deliberately pump incorrect and hatefully biased information into a newspaper's readership


Such conduct, back in my news reporting days, were met with swift firing for the dirty culprit by the news editor.  Not so today, which is why the public must be constantly wary about what they read in newspapers.  


There are more people of in the news profession, in my opinion, of atrocious character than you would ever find in a police department.    


Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  


I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.


The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.


However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)


I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.


Sincerely Presented,


Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal


jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  


I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.


The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.


However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)


I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.


Sincerely Presented,


Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal


jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  


I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.


The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.


However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)


I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.


Sincerely Presented,


Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal


jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  


Hola, Senor Moxley,


Man, you can be hysterically entertaining on these blogs.  


But, you really gotta get over that hatred for white people.  Sure, some of them are rotten to the core, like Frank Mickadeit and the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR), but not all of us white folk are bad.


BTW, the more you try to defend dirty journalist Mickadeit, the more you appear to be just like him.  That's why there are people like me protect the public by acting as a watchdog over dirty journalists.  Although you are not all bad, some of you (cspecially Frank Mickadeit) are as corrupt as the bandits you sometimes write (fabricate stories) about.


God never granted journalists exemption from the temptations of corruption any more than he ever granted it to members of the political bureaucracy.


You, Señor Moxley, are an imperfect mortal just like the rest of us.  Get over your delusional perception about being the flawless savior of mankind.


As for your hatred of cops, I must say you are wrong.  You are a profiler who thinks inside the mind of every single cop is a criminal just waiting to leap out and violate someone.  


I can honestly tell you that I have never once had a bad experience with a cop in the hundreds of interactions I have had with them in Texas, California, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Arizona, Ohio, Michigan, DC, etc.  


A vivid presence of law enforcement officers in all of our communities is the most effective form of insurance that our communities, and our nation, will be civilized environments.  Take away our cops and you will take away all of the freedoms guaranteed us by the Constitution of the United States of America.  


Stop being such a sour puss, Moxley.  You make me lose sleep, man.      :)  


Touche,


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project


P.S.  Despite our differences, have a nice day.

NotAgain
NotAgain

@rscottmoxley

Your brand of yellow journalism also feeds into the unfortunate trend of people advocating violence towards all police officers, as evidenced by the disgusting comments posted here by Nick Riviera and Lon Hall.

NotAgain
NotAgain

@rscottmoxley  You're right, cases of police corruption absolutely should be reported.  Where we now disagree is that I think those stories should be reported accurately and fairly, and you apparently do not.  Instead of presenting both sides in a balanced manner, you always downplay, ridicule, or completely ignore and fail to report any sort of exculpatory evidence relating to the conduct of the accused officers.  You don't do any investigation whatsoever about what may be true or untrue about the allegations of either side contained in the court documents.  That's just lazy.  You've done it to people at my department (not me) on cases where I have had direct knowledge of what really occurred so I know how inaccurate these types of articles from you can be.  The plaintiff's Complaints almost always contain exaggerations or flat out lies, because they can say anything they want in a lawsuit against the police and the police departments and officers have absolutely no recourse whatsoever.  In other words, there's no downside whatsoever for plaintiff's to lie about what happened.  As you know, in lawsuits, neither side's allegations in court documents can be taken at face value.  That's where fair and thorough reporting should take place, which takes some work on your part.  For you to regurgitate lies and half-truths from a Complaint and Answer without doing any additional investigation is lazy.

For what it's worth, I used to think highly of you as a reporter, enough so that I even tried to feed you a story once about what I felt was a gross injustice committed by my department, because I felt you would do a good job on the story.  You didn't respond to two e-mails I sent you.  The quality of your investigative reporting has since slid so far and your anti-police bias is now so strong that there's not a chance in hell I (and probably other officers as well) would ever consider feeding you a story, because you're apparently no longer interested in reporting the truth.  You're now the equivalent of Radar Online for police reporting.

I don't like not posting by my real name and badge number, but I feel forced to hide my true identity for fear of being slimed by you out of revenge for these comments.

roman_archer
roman_archer

@jimgilchrist @roman_archer D Boon = Daniel Boon? Well that reference went right over your head. Yes, I'm laughing so hard I did just crap my pants. Damn you Jim Gilchrist!

OCreader
OCreader

@jimgilchrist @rscottmoxley  


I don't think Mr. Moxley is saying to "take away our cops" at all, and actually, as redundant as he may sound, it IS a rampant problem in southern California. 


I read an article just today that a CHP handcuffed a FIREMAN, of all people, because he didn't like where he parked the engine, while they were tending to the injured at the scene of an accident on the 805 fwy, which, was parked, according to protocol, to protect the public servants from oncoming traffic, while they do their jobs. 


Sadly, that's the mentality of many of the police force today. They abuse their power and do not care. They already know they can get away with murder. The Law does have a loophole that covers them for a "certain amount of excess force while on the job".


I have witnessed it myself in several beach communities and other OC cities, and I"M white. I am not offended by Mr. Moxley's "poison pen" for one minute. In fact, I feel that this is THE ONLY publication that reports what's REALLY going on behind the scenes in our local City Hall's and Police Departments. The stuff we would never hear about unless we did the leg work of the Mox. 


Keep up the good work, Mox. Not all of us think you are just a cop hater, because you happen tell all. And to all you cops who can't stand reading about fellow officers being abusive, well, maybe the OC Weekly is not the paper for you.

NotAgain
NotAgain

@rscottmoxley

Someone else wrote "Good police want bad police off the force".  I couldn't agree more.

How about a compromise?  Whenever you post a story about the police where you have reviewed court documents, such as this case, why don't you also make it a policy to post a link to all the documents you reviewed?  PACER costs money, but there's nothing that prohibits you from posting these public documents.  That way the public could see just how impartial your cop hating articles really are.

So how about you take me up on the challenge and post not only the original Complaint, but the Answer from the defendants as well as the Judge's rulings?  How about doing this routinely?  You've obviously obtained and reviewed them in preparation for the article, so why not post them?

Also....when was the last time you posted something positive about the police?  After all, you said yourself "OC has some of the best, most reasonable cops on the planet".

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@NotAgain  Because I spend so much time covering Orange County's law enforcement community, I really do understand your frustration. OC has some of the best, most reasonable cops on the planet. I know that is a fact. But too many officers here want to always be portrayed as super heroes even when they've been scumbags. I've seen this attitude for nearly two decades. That I won't place my name on your department's press releases is upsetting for folks like you. Years and years and years of police hate mail I get when I alert the public to outrageous cop abuses is usually done cowardly, bitterly and with a threat of retaliation. I'm still here, cowboy. And, despite your lies about my work, no other journalist in SoCal, has produced more original reporting about dirty cops. (I'm pretty sure there's a former sheriff sitting now in prison who was similarly disrespectful prior to his FBI arrest.) If you have the balls to emerge from your present sissy perch to talk to me man to man, then do it.

jonboys55
jonboys55

Are you in the hunt to be PC of Bell, CA?

 
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