Does the United States Want to Keep Mexicans Dumb?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And should Mexicans feel obliged to hang out with family members who hate them?

DEAR MEXICAN: My father and mother were able to come over because after the "yellow scare" was over, the States didn't seem to mind that the Chinese were coming over here by the boatload. Since my parents were given visas and green cards, my father was able to get into school pretty easily. This seems to be pretty prevalent among most of the Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean and Indian populace here (a.k.a. the model minority groups). As a result, immigrants from China, Taiwan, Korea and India have been able to get an education here and prosper. Additionally, many of these immigrants maintain a pride in their home countries (as do Mexicans—unlike what most of the anti-immigration crowd thinks, you're not the only ones who wave your home country's flags around). This resulted in a lot of newly educated Chinese, Taiwanese, South Koreans and Indians bringing skills and expertise back to their home country. This allowed the aforementioned countries to build up. And these countries have begun to pump out fewer emigrants since there are a great number of job opportunities, better education systems and better living conditions overall (still a ways to go in China and India, but it'll get there).

So my point is: Why doesn't the U.S. grant a greater number of Mexicans green cards, visas or college education? I mean, it would stop all the whiners from saying, "We'll all be speaking Spanish soon." I mean, seriously: If the States would allow more Mexicans in legally, then we'd have more Mexicans with actual opportunities in the States, which would mean Mexico would eventually benefit, which in turn would reduce the number of illegal immigrants coming in from Mexico. You're a much better fact and statistics finder than I am (and you reach a lot more people than I do), so I was wondering if there is any way you could let some of those wall-building whiners know that billions spent on letting Mexicans in and helping them succeed now (the illegals are a necessity anyway—New York would grind to a halt if the legal or illegal immigrants left) is a whole lot better in the long run than billions spent building a wall that doesn't work, then spending billions more to tear it down when we realize the damn wall separates us from our neighbors and destroys ecosystems that keep America from turning into the Sahara.

Baby of Immigrants (Doesn't Really Matter If They Are Legal or Illegal)

DEAR CHINITA: Hear, hear all around. I'll just note that the Right wants to keep Mexicans pendejos, poor and illegal because it makes it that much easier to scapegoat and exploit them. You rarely hear Know Nothings go after Indians, for instance (who get by far the largest share of high-tech visas: 64 percent compared to Mexico's puny 1.2 percent), because they'd go all Shiva on them with their money, education and ghost peppers.

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CONFIDENTIAL TO: The young student at Claremont McKenna College who approached me after my recent speech there to fret about family members not liking her because she's not 100 percent Mexican. Don't pay attention to the haters. I know the Mexican part of you feels obliged to hang out and respect family members because they're familia. Screw that. NEVER surround yourself with people who obsess about racial-cultural purity because they're the ones whose futures are doomed in this multicultural reality of ours—they're going to end up whining as much as neo-Nazis. ALWAYS surround yourself with people who'll celebrate your diverse background. Stand strong, breathe deep and repeat after me: ¡A LA CHINGADA CON HATERS!

 
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lonhall
lonhall

This gabacho definitely does not want to keep Mexicans dumb. Because it is impossible to keep someone what they are not. Most of the Mexis I know, both from living several years in Mexico and on this side of the border are very sharp and focussed on success. The problem for Mexicans in the USA is not the Mexicans themselves but racist prejudice. Looking forward to celebrating "New Years in Spain" at my house with about a dozen latino friends. We start around 1pm, salute the New Years at 2pm (midnight in Spain) and again at 3pm (midnight in Morocco), savoring mountains of tapas together.

cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

Mexico is slowly getting there up to the 20,000 per capita. Its at 15,500. Poland is at 21,000 and Poles are the second largest group for England immigration. Poland would be compared to South Korea immigration in the US. If Mexico hits passed the 20,000 per capita barrier, immigration drops a lot and folks will have a different mind set. In fact Pew noticed that Mexicans are going in and out between the US and Mexico more since remittances peaked in 2006 and is down in 2013 while poorer Latin Counties like Guatemala are up. Guatemala per capita is 5,200. Puerto Rico the US commonwealth is only 16,000. Mexicans immigrating like Poles or South Koreans no one will complain as much.

blackspot1288
blackspot1288

I wish the LA Weekly would create an "Ask a Whiteboy" column so all of the "pro" Mexican responses could be equally discussed. I would never seek advice or information from this racist idiot. I said it.

mmorante1
mmorante1

I have talked to a few Mexican workers  and they said even if you have a job in Mexico you can't live on the pay. I have said this said this before . The reason Mexico has been held back is because they were ruled by the Spanish royalty and backed by the Catholic church 100% for three hundred years. And the Spanish decendants still control the country .


aaronjonesinsocal
aaronjonesinsocal

No, the Democrat Party wants to keep them dumb and reliant upon government. Liberal ideas don't have wide appeal w/ most people who can do much beyond basic mathematical calculations. It is, therefore, in the interest of progressives that the growing Latino population remain largely impressionable, malleable and needy.

Samuel Adams
Samuel Adams

Stop with excuses please! We cross the border illegally, because we take the jobs nobody wants? Really?

The_Actright
The_Actright

Let me note that I'm all for giving illegal immigrants from mexico green cards. More people to pay taxes and fuel are economy the better.

Now what has puzzled me so much about this country is that it is full of so many hard workers that end up coming over here and even risking life and limb to get here. I believe that if all the illegal immigrants from mexico put 50% of the work they put in to get here, work and stay; into improving their country Mexico would be a super power by now. Why doesn't anyone talk about this?

Mexico is such bad place to live and work in, because 18% to 20% of its population lives in the USA, est. of 12 mil. Now that is 12 mil people where most of them are workers. I know the population is 120 mil for mexico but their number of employed is 50 mil with a unemployment rate of 5.0% meaning that around 2.7 mil people are unemployment., then that tells you that 67 mil people are unemployable(child, retired, or stay at home mothers). I what I get from these numbers is that a large portion of Mexico's work force(Est. 24%) is to busy trying to get over here then fix their own country. Again I'm all for them coming over here and helping me pay taxes. I just draw a blank are to why they do this many someone on here can figure this out.

Triana Elan
Triana Elan

The Spaniards had been overrun by the Moors (Arabs).

Triana Elan
Triana Elan

Real multigenerational Texans are Mexicans and indigenous Mexicans ARE Native Americans. America is a continent called North America and includes Canada and Mexico. Savvy?

Triana Elan
Triana Elan

If no one took them, no reason to bring them in!

Triana Elan
Triana Elan

I would imagine most cultures are like that.

Angela Bagby
Angela Bagby

My brother picked up some guy in front of Home Depot last week to help him replace a pipe in the ground-half a days work-and he couldn't hack it. He asked my brother to drive him back and he pointed to his skin and said, "My skin is light, I can't do dirty work. You need to pick someone with darker skin to do this!" He was serious and from Mexico. LMAO!!! Talk about being colonized in the brain. My brother couldn't believe it.

Mike MacDuffee
Mike MacDuffee

I thought the goal of every nation was to keep it's citizens dumb and in line.

Hank Ramey
Hank Ramey

No, either they do right or ya basta.

Dave Tucker
Dave Tucker

OC Weekly is a really good informative publication.

Jon Lundin
Jon Lundin

Intelligence and education are two different animals.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

Why would educated mexis come here when there is a lower unemployment rate and improving opportunities in mexico.  Would you move to a pais soon to be majority cholo and chiflada?

Cecilia Gomez
Cecilia Gomez

There are a few "relatives" that deny I am related to them...i am successful, i don't need them anyway and will never associate with them........

Josh English
Josh English

Very thought provoking article.......there are rumors that one day, the borders will be eliminated. Who knows?! I hope so. There's too much fighting and division. :-) We're all human, last time that I checked. :-p

Rafael Salazar
Rafael Salazar

family; yes hang ou,; watch 'em cringe..dumb; USSA wants everybody dumb

Jason Rodriguez
Jason Rodriguez

Haha. Is that implying that Mexicans are already dumb if were keeping them dumb?

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

A quibble, "... to keep Mexicans pendejos, ...", they would have to be pendejos to begin with. I assume you mean pendejos in their eyes. In my experience, the proportion of pendejos is pretty consistent (fairly low) between groups.

BWM666
BWM666

Me being a proud honkey and all, as much as I like chipotle chicken tacos, Salma Hayek's tres leche pinatas, and bimbo cakes I think us white folk and our fellow brownsters are equally guilty of taking the land from the Native American people. I'm not a liberal race traitor nor racist but I think we could have came over in a more neutral way with permission and coexist in designated areas, just saying!

STOPTHERECONQUISTA
STOPTHERECONQUISTA

Why do middle class American students have to take out $50,000 in student loans while 'dreamers' get $50,000 in Cal Grants. Doesn't seem right.....particularly when it's the American middle class that pays most of the taxes. 

Frank Zamora
Frank Zamora

Too late Cabrones. We are here, we are educated, we have ficha & and we're taking Califas & and the Southwest back just by doing what comes naturally....hahaha !!!

Eric Dietz
Eric Dietz

Perfect! example of "racebaiting" and pointing fingers at people over here and the people over there; instead of coming to a logic conclusion and thus a strategy to meet a specific goal.

Eric Dietz
Eric Dietz

Mexicans represent just shy of 60% of all legal immigrants. Asians just 3%. These people talk out their necks. (2006)

Frank Marco Manzi
Frank Marco Manzi

Those in Power, have to keep Us fighting each other, so We do not have a chance to look up at the Evil Ones in Power!

seriouslyyyyy
seriouslyyyyy

My grandparents came to the US from Poland/

Austria in 1890. They came to work as many do today, but today illegals come to work and get paid under the table, get free stuff ( food stamps, EBT cards, Sec 8 housing etc). Illegals do not want to "come out of the shadows", why would they? If you can make fistfulls of $100 bills and not pay taxes on it, and the govt pays 90% of your rent (sec 8 housing), why would you want to be known, be a citizen with a SSN and pay taxes? If someone would pay 90% of my mortgage and give me free food, free lunch breakfast for my kids in school, free money, welfare etc, I too could afford Disneyland and an Escalade.

seriouslyyyyy
seriouslyyyyy

I totally believe this.  In 1971 I was 19, in college, I got a part time job at UPS loading boxes onto trucks, in a diesel fuel smoggy building, trucks idling, very hard work, very fast. i was too slow,  I got fired after 3 weeks. I admit that me being white had something to do with it. I was running Marathons then and very fast 3 miles (16 min) but I cannot load boxes like Mexicans can. These same Mexicans could not compete with me taking a math test. I have a BA in Math, I later got a good job with City of LA, I am now retired DWP Hydrographer.  When in line with 1000s of people to take City tests for a job, I knew I could score higher that 90% of the applicants. Not because I am white, but because I sat down for 17 yrs, grades 1 thru 16, studied, got the degree etc. But I still cannot compete with Mexicans loading boxes. PS I joined the USMC in 73 age 22 after college, I was one of the best 3 milers in the USMC but I quit OCS at age 25, not the right stuff, find your niche in Life  I say

seriouslyyyyy
seriouslyyyyy

I worked with 2 men who hated each other.  One was young, born in the USA to a Mexican mom, she took him to Mexico at age 1  to be raised in Mexico he said, more discipline in Mexico, Police are tougher etc, she did not want him to join gangs etc if raised in East LA.  So at age 14 he returned to LA Calif, did well in school, college, is now an Engr for DWP. The other man was older, also Mexican American but he was raised in the US. Seems he hated the "Mexican" guy just for being too 'Mexican" , cowboy hat,  boots, very Ariz style he dressed. It was like the old bull hating the young bull. The older guy was very fit, handsome, chased women like a 15 yr old. Both men were good workers, and good men.  It was sad for me to see these 2 hating and fighting each other. I also don't understand why Mexicans hate the blacks and vice versa. I see both groups as equally oppressed,,PS I am white with one eighth Cherokee

seriouslyyyyy
seriouslyyyyy

I do agree it is sad to see hate, on both sides,  but does a Nation not have the right to protect its sovereign borders.? Is the USA not a sovereign nation?  Mexico defends its southern border. I cannot go to Mexico to live without permission from the Mexican govt.  My wife is from Hamburg Germany.  I do visit there but to live there I have to ask permission, sign the guest book. etc. This is not asking too much. My ancestors are from Poland, Austria, England, Ireland and many more places. But I cannot go live in Sweden without asking for permission. I have a good retirement pension, so I would not be a burden on any place on Earth, but I have to sign the guest book. Without a border and interior enforcement, there is no USA. All 7 Billion  people on Earth can just come here??? Seriously??

edorod77
edorod77

@Jason Rodriguez You know what's dumb? Your question.

seriouslyyyyy
seriouslyyyyy

@BWM666  I agree, esp with the designated areas part.  I am white, one eighth Cherokee, yes we did steal the land, fair and square.,, i'm lying, but hear me out!!! My mom taught at Westchester High in west LA very white area in the 1960s, they started bussing blacks into Westchester schools.  At lunch, all the blacks would congregate together, blacks with blacks.  I took a class at East LA High at age 40 in 1991, an Engineering class. All the Asians would help each other, all the Mexicans would group together, etc. This is just how it is,, birds of a feather flock together. No saying this is right or wrong, it just IS!!     PS I dated all races of women in my 20s I remember the Hispanic girls only wanted to marry,,,, no fooling around till Marriage,, This was my experience

asthetruth11
asthetruth11

@STOPTHERECONQUISTA  Dear STOPTHE RE-CUNT-QUISTA,

Hey Asshole! tough  TACOS for you and your ilk!... Why don't stop bitching about  MEXIS working their asses of for less then a livable wage in this corrupt country and start BITCHING about RICH GABACHOS who pay mucho dinero to find ways to NOT PAY TAXES!! THAT  DOESN"T SEEM RIGHT TO ME...

aaronjonesinsocal
aaronjonesinsocal

@Frank Zamora Freeloading and getting ensnared in the criminal justice system?

whateveryousay
whateveryousay topcommenter

@Frank Zamora taking it back one lawn at a time.


The_Actright
The_Actright

 @asthetruth11  wow calm down, the guy just asked a question, I hope a government agency is monitoring you my friend, I see a Psychotic breakdown in your future. If you flip out over a silly question wonder what you do when tells you no. Just wondering when you grew up did you harm small animals 

STOPTHERECONQUISTA
STOPTHERECONQUISTA

@asthetruth11 @STOPTHERECONQUISTA The door's right there prick.....you and your invading ilk can get on the other side of it and won't be missed.

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

STOP"THERE"RECONQUISTA. Um, where?

 
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