No Back Up for Scott Montoya

The Marine won the Navy Cross for bravery in Iraq. But it was his job with the Orange County Sheriff's Department that gave him PTSD

No Back Up for Scott Montoya
Illustration: Jesse Lenz | Design: Dustin Ames

You might expect a highly trained, U.S. special-forces soldier returning from gory Iraq War combat to the relative safety of Southern California could no longer be shocked, but Marine Sergeant Scott Montoya faced a nasty surprise.

Keller liked to drink booze, curse, chew Copenhagen tobacco, visit strip clubs, taunt poor minorities and use racial epithets, according to court records.

The recipient of the Navy Cross for selfless acts of combat bravery discovered that civilian life as an Orange County Sheriff's Department (OCSD) deputy was more dangerous than he could have anticipated. Of course, deputies—especially ones working patrol, such as Montoya—always risk the possibility of getting seriously wounded or killed in the line of duty.

But this Marine scout sniper and karate black belt who ran through enemy fire five times to rescue four seriously wounded American soldiers and an Iraqi civilian during the April 2003 Battle of Baghdad believed his greatest risk of harm wasn't from gangsters, robbers, drug dealers or an armed madman. He'd seen evidence his threat was oddly personalized and from an unlikely source: fellow OCSD deputies intensely jealous of his status as a war hero honored by President George W. Bush during a January 2005 White House ceremony.

Like the military canon of never leaving a wounded soldier behind—one Montoya obviously practiced—a key tenet of the law-enforcement community throughout the United States is that cops always back up a fellow officer during perilous situations. That issue simmered at the deputy's recent civil trial, in which he accused the department of corruption; permitting a hostile work environment; and violating the Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA), a federal law that protects soldiers from discrimination in the civilian workplace.

Montoya testified that after his February 2005 assignment to work alone in his own patrol car in heavily gang-infested Stanton, Tim Keller, a deputy with more seniority who worked the same shift, posed a disturbing question. "Deputy Keller asked me if I [had seen] Serpico," Montoya testified, explaining that the 1973 Al Pacino classic was based on a true story concerning a New York policeman who, to his colleagues' anger, would not participate in bribery schemes and got shot in the face by a drug dealer after fellow cops refused to provide backup. To Montoya, Keller mentioned the movie to make a point: "They [certain fellow deputies] were not going to back me up."

The thought of internal OCSD sabotage alarmed Montoya. While fighting in Iraq, he'd earned the love and respect of fellow Marines for his bravery, loyalty and work ethic. After his deployment, members of his scout sniper unit placed personal messages on an Iraqi flag retrieved during fighting and presented it as a gift to Montoya, who was raised in a large Los Angeles family by a single mother working two minimum-wage jobs. One message read, "Sgt. Montoya: You are undoubtedly one of the finest men I will ever know. It has been an honour serving with you."

The atmosphere at the sheriff's Stanton substation wasn't as hospitable. How much of the tension involved envy about Montoya's Navy Cross—the second-highest combat honor awarded to members of the U.S. Navy, Marines and Coast Guard—isn't clear. What's obvious is that Montoya didn't exactly fit in with his colleagues.

Keller—a linebacker-sized deputy who has perfected the stink-eye and is the life of late-night poker parties—liked to drink booze, curse, chew Copenhagen tobacco, visit strip clubs, unnecessarily taunt poor minorities and use racial epithets, according to allegations in court records.

In contrast, Montoya recites poetry; loves teaching martial arts; gets misty-eyed while talking about family and church; and is fond of spending time with his three horses, four pigs, three dogs, 12 chickens, three goats and a rabbit—all of whom he has affectionately named. He is quick to say he's not perfect, but he tries to live by a personal motto learned from his mother: "Service before self."

Montoya claims Keller, who never joined the military, served as the "alpha male" leader of "the Black Sheep," a "gang" of cantankerous, rebel deputies in Stanton. "They believed they were outside of department policy," testified Montoya. "The Black Sheep members would try to influence supervisors on ways to get around [OCSD's formal] policies. . . . They had a motto: 'If you ain't cheating, you really ain't trying hard enough.' [Members of the group] said it [like they were] joking to each other, but they were serious."

Keller doesn't deny the existence of "the Black Sheep." He even acknowledges they created their own flag and T-shirt. But he claims the club formed for a non-nefarious reason: Sheriff's headquarters in Santa Ana chronically understaffed the busy Stanton substation, and deputies in the northern Orange County city felt ignored. Tainted or not, the group never included Montoya, whose lawyers, San Diego's John S. Kyle and Frederic G. Ludwig III, say their client's outsider status, coupled with jealousy over the Navy Cross, as well as the alleged Serpico incident, had real-life implications.

After midnight during one 2005 shift, Montoya was dispatched to an alarm at a business warehouse in a high-crime area of Katella Avenue. When he arrived, he entered an open door and says he heard Deputy Tim Cullen, one of Keller's best friends in the department and reportedly a "Black Sheep" member, radio the dispatcher that he had arrived as backup.

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ocean4joann
ocean4joann

I have known Montoya for over 20 years. He was the first man to break my heart but also the most unselfish, caring, and honest man I have ever known. He always put the needs of others before his own and took great pride in being a Deputy, Marine, Instructor, and so many more honorable titles. What he went through in the article is awful and so degrading. No one should have to go through the obstacles mentioned. It is very clear that OCSD is very corrupted and there was obliviously a lot of jealousy. Montoya should continue to be honored and deserves to be very highly respected.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

So in summary: an American journalist working for a local newspaper, a white male council member in Costa Mesa, Ca , a white male Republican mayor in Costa Mesa, CA, an Hispanic American Iraq war veteran, war hero and deputy for the Orange County Sheriffs department and a Hispanic American man who was risking his hide on Colombian mountain tops providing surveillance tools so that companies, private citizens and the Colombian police could protect their assets and their asses ... we are all making the same general complaint -that the OC law enforcement community and/or their apologists are acting like an organized crime syndicate.

But your cops are innocent angels right who never do wrong?

Did I mention the block party last year in front of Anaheim city hall where hundreds of people came out to celebrate the Anaheim PD and it's excellent community policing program?

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Colossal myth #1: that OC cops honor their oath. You have nothing but contempt for your oath - you consider it and the Constitution an impediment to your career advancement.

Colossal myth #2: that OC cops belong to a brotherhood that always has your back. I've seen these cops get used and abused by their leadership across three different decades.

Colossal myth #3: that there is any real police oversight in Orange County CA. With all the criminal acts I've witnessed your cops commit that one is the biggest joke of them all.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

William Haluck actually thought pointing out how Montoya cared for animals would be a negative to a jury of actual non-sociopathic human beings? LOL. Being an apologist for the OC mafia police requires very few brain cells apparently. It's why you are Police Chiefs, Sheriffs, attorneys and District Attorneys and not Directors of Engineering like the white male American hero bosses of mine that you back stabbed. You can't con the physical sciences as easily as you can con the people of Orange County (especially the Courts). My bosses are/were real Americans while you are just ignorant traitorous trash not worthy of being called an American.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Deputy John Sprague / Sergeant Wayne Quint / Marine Colonel Cooper and whoever else had the courage to support Montoya in court - American heroes. Anyone who would attempt to harm them for doing the right thing - Neo-Nazi pieces of shit.

The using of ex-military employees turned civilian trash to harm Montoya reminds me of how the white racist leadership trash that harmed me used predominantly minority civilian trash to harass / intimidate etc. As if this Hispanic American man could ever forget about Stan Knee, Brad Gates and assorted trash. N

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Deputy John Sprague / Sergeant Wayne Quint / Marine Colonel Cooper and whoever else had the courage to support Montoya in court - American heroes. Anyone who would attempt to harm them for doing the right thing - Neo-Nazi pieces of shit.

The using of ex-military employees turned civilian trash to harm Montoya reminds me of how the white racist leadership trash that harmed me used predominantly minority civilian trash to harass / intimidate etc. As if this Hispanic American man could ever forget about Stan Knee, Brad Gates and assorted trash.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

The "Black Sheep" imbeciles didn't need to convince anyone because there are enough criminals in the OCSD command structure to aid and abet this terrorist garbage behavior. That's why "department officials" did nothing about it. The biggest joke in Orange County CA is when you think you can turn to your police leadership to fight police corruption. It's why I don't like this love affair between the Office of Independent Review and OC leadership. It stinks.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

This story perfectly illustrates the other American police myth - that these cops and deputies belong to a brotherhood. For instance, try to do the right thing as an officer and watch how your brothers betray you like perfect-just-following-orders-Nazi-trash.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

In true Dick Nixon style, the ocsd under Sandra Hutchens "loses" evidence in this case. Isn't that a felony Mrs. Good to Great? Oh yeah I forgot Orange County CA is a special section of the United States where every part of the United States criminal code can be ignored by the special ones.

newlou
newlou

Why do Montoya detractors post from the spineless depths of anonymity while we lucky enough to benefit from Scotty's friendship, loyalty, and unwavering moral compass proudly, transparently, and eagerly identify ourselves?

Perhaps it's because these a-holes puke the same spineless, vile lies and cowardly revisionist history for which the OCSD was found GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. It appears these internet trolls are not surprisingly one-trick-ponies from that same dung-reeking stable and so, of course, gratuitously pull pages from the same failed OCSD playbook. 

And I'm not even going to ask how the classified and legally unavailable and inaccessible particulars of what was then an ongoing sham investigation into Montoya ended up in this publication's previous articles. At least not yet.

But I will say this. To all the bitter, self-entitiled, hateful anonymous children still making the story up as they go along: Wake up! Bullying didn't work for OCSD. It didn't work for Haluck in front of the jury. And guess what: It's not working for you web ghosts, either. Slither back to your holes. Scotty just kicked your asses. Or can't you read?.....

Lou Voiler

danprice24
danprice24

Let me stand corrected! It used to be that way. Now with only 2or 3 to a station all e they can do is respond call to call. Not to mention the fact that our fearless leaders are letting violant criminal's and rapists out of prison at a unprecedented rate there is barely time for paper work. I applaud you for wanting to attack corrupted officials. But don't attacwalk a mile in a deputies boots before you attack us for where and how we take our breaks man! The bottom line is if I'm called to your house and your family is in danger I will lay down my life to protect you! We need to be supported not attacked for petty things.

danprice24
danprice24

First of all let's keep in mind that his story wasn't broke by a legit reporter from a reputable publication. If the OC Register or NY Times were to publish this I might be inclined to believe some of it. Last year I was given a copy of this OC Weekly by a Co-Worker who knows that I am good friends with Sgt.Montoya. As I proceeded to flip to the article from back to front all I saw was drug and prostitution classifieds? I continued on to read the article written about him. Without contacting him I asked a few friends from different agencies to look into this story. Since Scott is my brother i did not want to be clouded by my loyalties to him yet needed to know the truth. Nobody from any agency could come up with any proof that Scott was a predator or was involved in any wrong doing. Even at our level we could not access Internal Affairs documentation of an ongoing investigation and court case. So how does a reporter like this have that kind of security clearance or access??If people would really stop and think about this! Anyone can put a spin on a story and throw someone under a microscope and create doubt and suspicion regarding any of our officers in any dept.! Many times we will say that we are at a location doing paper work or whatever but we are really chewing the fat with a 7-11 owner or a gun shop we frequent picking up supplies! Obviously there is no victim of an assault or I would be visiting him in prison???As far as my brother being awarded the Navy Cross? I do know who was there! I personally have spoke to guys in the Battalion that were on that deployment! Scott will be the first to tell you that hundreds of Marines on that mission deserve that Navy Cross not just him. It was HELL...and for any of you who second guess what we do for your freedom? pull your heads out of the sand and realize that we get shot, blown up, captured and tortured and held POW with nobody coming for us while you sit at home playing your XBOX! What Sgt.Montoya did that day was exemplary of a United States Marine. If you question why he was singled out for the citation refer to the story of CMH recipient GSGT.John Basilone! It will tell you more about who they choose and why to represent the Marine Corps. and unless you were there that day....shut your POG ass mouth!!! In short we love you Scotty!!! We are sorry that you are having to go through this. But like the day the enemy opened up on your Marines and hell fell upon your world you did not hide behind cover and go quietly into that good night. For those of you who are insisting on attacking Sgt.Montoya realize this...it is not I Marines or We Marines it is "US MARINES "you are attacking and it is not a good idea!

jconaty
jconaty

Finally reading something about my friend and brother that sounds like the person I know. Scott Montoya doesn't just talk, he walks the walk. I know this first hand. He has always been a man of his word. He is a selfless caring person. The fact that he had so much passion for his job caused him to show emotion, and NOT being afraid to show it makes him a bigger man than most.  Here is a guy who puts himself before others not only in his beliefs but in the face of REAL danger as his military record will show. 

This is a guy who will literally give you the shirt of his back.  Its obvious that jealousy overruled rational thought where the other deputies were concerned.  That's too bad.  Not providing back up?  This is a guy who would take a bullet for you!

Mr. Montoya or "serge" as I call him has given me more than one could ask for in terms of friendship, loyalty, and support. I am proud to call him friend and brother.

J. Conaty


seantcb
seantcb

have read the many media forms that have found the time to go on the attack to this mans life history,from his service within the Military & as a Law Enforcement Officer to a simple man who stood his ground on his own philosophy toward his work ethics, defending his country to seeing his name, reputation and Honor being under the microscope of someone's hidden agenda or again another case of Political Bullying. Then we all read of the inner circle 'Wolf Pack' attack from fellow Officers who taunted, invaded his privacy and even to the extent digging into his personal life where they literally went into areas that bedroom manners were of concern to make this man break and crash much like a method of 'Torture Tactics' known to many who are in War.

My inner actions with Scott Montoya has been nothing but a man who believes in Dignity, Honor and never leaving his fellow Man behind or in harms way as we have heard the stories being told as he was left in critical positions where he was in a 'Fight' by himself with nobody to back him up or others like him when it comes to saving lives and putting theirs on the line or not even in consideration based on the threat at hand.

As for any accolades earned, given or praised about for his acts of duty....to Scott, they are just tokens of what he did 'After the Fact'....not during, before but after. If someone wants to spread Cyber Mud....then you are in the same catagory as those who printed, mocked and attempted to bring this man to his knees but found out....'Once a Marine' ...always a Marine! He served our country, the streets of Law Enforcement Duty and like any Officer or Military person, they know the risks, the precentage of not coming home to their families but what is really a shameful act is the so called Motto: 'To Protect and Serve' and in this case he was made to 'Protect and Swerve' two enemy lines. All I have to say is Scott is a friend, a Kenpo Torch Carrier of being a Warrior, and now he needs to heal from the inside out where he was hurt beyond any Bullet, Knife, or other weapons he has defended against in his Martial Path. Scott Montoya is a 1% percenter.....and now it is time to stop the 'Political Bullying' and let this go. Nobody really wins a battle like this and for any and all Veterans no money, accolades, picture taking or media front page or Presidential snap shot will change who Scott Montoya is and that is a Man who is loved, respected and cared about far greater than many will ever know. In closing I Salute my friend, my Kenpo brother and will always be in your corner.....TCB!

 
 Sean Kelley- Co-Founder 'Stomp the Bullying'



 

mikepick1
mikepick1

I have know Scott Montoya before he went into the Marine Corps.  I have also known Scott as a American Kenpo 7th Degree black belt.  I am a former Marine,  serving with 2/3 Hotel company, 2nd Platoon,  Viet Nam 68-69 as a Rifleman,  (Grunt),  combat decorated.  My 3 sons are also former Marines.  I reference this in my history as a qualified Former Marine and understand the character and integrity of what the Marine Corps stands for now for 238 years.

Scott Montoya stands in this cadre of Marines,  a Man with the Pride of his Espirit De Corps,  his unyielding patriotism and a resolve as we know as a Brother Marine.  I have been step by step with Scott and support him 100%.  Anyone that speaks in a negative way about Scott's Navy Cross should take it up with President George Bush,  for he pinned it on him in the White House.  Scott Montoya will endure this recent travesty against his good name and the virtue he has displayed during this "battle" to right the wrong and the despicable nature of his accusers.  He stands tall and will not yield.   Semper fi Scott, we are with you,                      Michael Robert Pick

ocsdspider
ocsdspider

Mr. Moxley, nobody has ordered retaliation against any witnesse nor are there any orders for a helicopter to hover over your residence. I am a retired O.C Sheriff of 28 years and worked with Scott Montoya during his tenure with the city of Stanton. I will comment further at a later time about his tenure with the city of Stanton. You have always had a vendetta against O.C.S.D since you have been employed by the O.C Weekly. Accusing them of retaliation of witnesses and helicopter fly overs is preposterous.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Regarding District Attorney Tony Rackauckas: this Sheriffs department (along with just about every PD in OC) behaves this way because he's been asleep at the wheel in terms of prosecuting criminal police in Orange County, CA. Mr. Rackauckas, when I started hearing on the news about your prosecution of Carona I deliberately ignored the event because I knew that sending away one or two men wasn't going to amount to a hill of shit with regards to reigning in the mafia trash enterprise that I personally have witnessed. And sure enough, the incarceration of these idiots complete with the right to keep collecting their 20K per month pension while residing in federal prison did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to correct your mafia police force's behavior - NOTHING.What this means Mr. Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas is that your "prosecution show" only benefitted you and your colleagues by creating the spectacularly false impression that this DA's office was doing something about police corruption. Meanwhile, the people of Orange County, CA were left to continue to be subjected to this dangerous gun toting garbage. What these deputies did to this fellow officer is what these deputies do to people in OC. I'm a victim of it therefore I confidently claim it. And after a trillion weeks asking for your help, I'm done giving you the benefit of the doubt and can come to no other conclusion but that you don't give a rat's ass. And there are definitely legal remedies for that sort of Madoff bullshit in the courts. Starting with my first amendment right to verbally call this to the attention of the good people of Orange County. It definitely is a matter of public interest being that your cops flushed millions of their taxpayer dollars down the racist rat hole acting like criminals and oath violating traitors. It definitely is a matter of public interest that the District Attorney in the Orange County, CA is playing cover for reputation and engineering career destroying attempted murdering psychopaths pretending to be protectors and servers.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Regarding Mike Carona and his propping up of this victim - it suited his purposes of making himself and his Sheriffs department into something that it's not - brave; there is nothing brave about being a mafia trash bully. Your law enforcement leadership loves to hide behind "good cops" in the same way Bernie Madoff had a section of his company involved in legitimate financial services. In the same way that the ex-Anaheim police Chief John Welter puts Mayor Taite in a ride-along with a "good cop" who even goes and saves a life right before his very eyes. What this Chief failed to mention to this Mayor was how many times that very same day OC cops including his harassed a person, violated a person's home privacy, slashed a person's tires, smashed a person's front passenger side window, deliberately ruined a person's reputation, attempted murder (all with the help of a foul group of human civilian trash) etc etc etc. So I don't buy Carona's lovely gesture vis a vis Montoya. Your OC police leadership loves to hide behind latinos to carry out their fraudulent career; especially latino CI garbage trying to save themselves from criminal conviction by cooperating with cops in the commission of crimes against Americans on American soil before and after 9/11.Montoya is the victim and the Orange County California Sheriffs department command structure are the criminals here. The idiots in the field wouldn't do what they do if it weren't for the fact that their superiors are oath violating traitorous idiots as well.

SirFur
SirFur

Mr. Moxley, I have worked behind the scenes with Scott and am impressed by your accurate / succinct telling of a very complex story.  Outstanding!  I hope that the community reads and passes along what you have written, and then comments on this travesty.  As we all know Orange County will appeal as most losers do.  So this isn't over.  Final thought?  It's nearly Thanksgiving and I am most thankful for men and women in uniform that serve our country so bravely.  Often in foreign lands away from all that we hold so dear.  Thankful for them and thankful for true journalists such as yourself that take the time to tell the real story.  God bless Ya'll!

Notatrainee
Notatrainee

Good thing he was a guy or they would all be trying to F*ck him, oh yeah they are.  Joseph Jerome Langhorne, still cheating on your wife with the female OCSD trainee's?

Pam Ragland
Pam Ragland

Do people really think the corruption went away jailing Corona? Sorry environments are not changed just by jailing the leader. It takes an organized effort that I with my expertise do not see has happened.

daisyjffrsn
daisyjffrsn

I'm at a loss for words to describe how I feel after reading this article. It's not that I can't believe OCSD (or any police department for that matter) is capable of such loathsome behavior, it's that Sgt. Montoya has been a friend of mine for years. In all the years I have never heard him complain or say anything negative about anyone. I already knew that the OCSD was fabricating stories about him. He has always behaved as a complete gentleman. As a matter of fact, I don't even think I've ever heard him use profanity. What I do know is that he always puts "service before self" and volunteers his time to different causes. I often tease him because guys like that are as easy to find as a unicorn. He does all these things and more without trying to boast or elevate himself. He is geniunely a beautiful, spiritual and humble soul. I'm so happy the jury saw the truth. I'm so proud of my friend. To think, he was going through all of this in silence. The thing he values the most is his character, and they tried so hard to tarnish that. No amount of money can compensate taking a man's good name and job. A job he did because he wanted to build the community. I can say so many real things about OCSD that I have personally experienced but it's not about them. In the end, the cream always risesto the top.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

As a 10 year old New York city kid, I clearly remember watching the Serpico movie. In other words, the tired old story of good cops trying to do the right thing and the significant component of criminal cops (not just 1 or 2) completely screwing their "buddy" was familiar to me before many of these current OC police morons were born. And how disgusting that a deputy in the 21th century would use that tragic story as a tool to intimidate. MORON!

paullucas714
paullucas714

They have a shirt and a flag for the Black Sheep? Sounds like a street gang to me.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

For every day that this criminally racist and arrogant Sheriff department obstruct justice for this Marine hero I intend to verbally shit on this Sheriffs department at the podiums of the Anaheim and Garden Grove city councils. Having witnessed this law enforcement community commit every criminal act in the United States criminal code I have literally over 100 stories to tell with the OCSD contributing handsomely to that collection. Isn't that correct Brad "the racist retard" Gates, Mike "the jailbird" Carona and Sandra "good to great" Hutchens?

Brennan King
Brennan King

Apart from everything else there is to say about that story, I just want to say it was a really well-written, interesting story. It's so rare to get an in depth story about anything anymore. The sheriffs department is terrifying. We need to clean that house from top to bottom.

tjackson10151962
tjackson10151962

As a fellow Marine and OC resident, I am beyond disgusted by the behavior of these "Bullies with Badges!" To be honest, I am not surprised by their small minded, dangerous and juvenile behavior! And, I have always known that the OC Sheriff's department was a 'joke' and was not worth the scrap metal those badges are formed with! I wish we could scrap the whole department and start over! I do not feel safe knowing these assholes are on patrol!!!!!!!  Regardless Montoya, we as Marines have your back, 100%!!!!  Keep the faith and keep your head up, and don't you dare let them steal your joy and the pride you had in your much deserved award!!!! Semper Fi!!!!!

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

Deputy Montoya,

Welcome home, Brother!


Jim Gilchrist (USMC veteran - Vietnam)

canycany
canycany

This is just such a sad (and dangerous) story. I suspect this brave man isn't the first to experience this. Those that have been brave enough to take on dishonesty within police departments have never fared well. What is it about law enforcement that often brings out the worst in people? Are these departments often full of bullies?

Every time I think of Kelly Thomas I think that this kind of potential is there in all departments. I'm older, but when I grew up I thought of police as a friend. Now I think of them as an enemy and have for many years.

I know there have to be good people in the departments, but if they speak up about corruption etc., I suspect they get a big dose of whoopass from their peers. Sad when there may be more crime going on in the locker room v. the streets they patrol.



tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

Uh'hem - Laws were meant to be broken that's why they wrote them.

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"I have absolutely no influence over the outcomes of these trials in these courts". - Judge Derek Johnson Harbor Court. (overheard him say this to court clerk while sitting in audience segment in courtroom.)

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

 in which he accused the department of corruption; permitting a hostile work environment; and violating the Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA), a federal law that protects soldiers from discrimination in the civilian workplace.

Of course they're corrupt and always have been: Take a look at Mike Carona and that should buy you a clue.

 "80 percent of ALL COPS are criminals and they violate the laws while they are ON DUTY".

newlou
newlou

@18usc241 Sounds like you've been through hell. You certainly have my sympathies. In addition to the victimization and abuses you indicate having suffered, do you have any first hand experience with the USSERA violations, Keller, the Black Sheep, the OCSD, their attorney Haluck, or any other specific elements referenced in this article?

rickb3825
rickb3825

@danprice24 While I appreciate the concept of law enforcement, I have to tell you that the LAST thing I will ever do is ASK the police(OCSD) to come to my home. I am not a dirtbag, I am a good neighbor, but I have absolutely no trust. I don't really care where you take a break. I do have a problem with cops that lie. When you became an officer you signed on to be better than, but not above the law. You are not allowed to hold anyone up to a standard that you don't live beyond. What I see in my town are guys in green uniforms that as a group look and act like a street gang with badges. I believe it isn't your fault. You start your career as a wide eyed child with good intentions and are thrown into the jail. The jail teaches you a distinct "us vs them" mentality and a distrust for the rest of us that extrudes through your entire being. You consider all of us a threat. I can't make the judgement of right and wrong, because like you said, I've never walked in your boots. I can tell you that I grew up in OC, had an uncle that won the medal of valor as a deputy. Things have changed. I used to trust the police. I no longer do. that is not my doing but yours. As I eluded to before I don't view the deputies as I did when I was a kid or a teen. I see them as thugs with a rude attitude. Frankly, I see them as a gang in green uniforms. Maybe if you smile more and don't shave your heads, maybe if during a traffic stop (I would guess your most frequent contact with "US") you use your computer to figure out who you are dealing with, and refrain from the "when were you last arrested?" question. Most of "US" have never been arrested and this question insults us. Also, Try to keep from constantly resting your hand on your gun. The truth is most of "US" believe that if you want, you can shoot us, kill us and get away with it, no ,matter what kind of life we've lived. Dan, your probably not listening at this point but if you are, you need to. Your department isn't looked at with respect anymore. Sandra Hutchins needs to be a better Sheriff and less of a politico. Deputies need to let their hair grow and look a little less thug like.  So with all of that said, BOTTOM LINE IS, I WON'T CALL YOU. If I have an intruder, I can deal with that, I've never reported anything to the OCSD and had a stolen item returned, or an arrest made, or even the slightest impression that my report was any more than a bother to the deputy. Good luck, I DO wish you the best, but get your head out of the clouds. You folks are attacked for petty things because of the "Us and Them" you all have created.

rickb3825
rickb3825

@danprice24 Apparently being a liar has become commonplace among deputies since as you so non-nonchalantly say "Many times we will say that we are at a location doing paper work or whatever but we are really chewing the fat with a 7-11 owner or a gun shop we frequent picking up supplies!" The most striking exposure that scares the hell out of common citizens is that where we felt the corruption had come to an end at OCSD with  the conviction of the snakes head, the new head is just as corrupt.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@danprice24 Haaaa! Your nonsensical, petty and obviously fake rant is reminiscent of a retarded person pounding his nose on computer keys and thinking he's written a masterpiece. Thanks for giving me the pleasure of a laugh at your expense!

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Of course there are no legal orders to harass an American journalist in Orange County, CA in the second decade of the 21th century. Even the Orange County Sheriffs department isn't that stupid. The way this garbage act of domestic terrorism works and in order to add a layer of plausable deniabilty the offending law enforcement agency or associated agency utilizes a criminal confidential informant to fabricate an incident near the targets location (or just a good ole fashioned false 911 call) forcing none the wiser cops/deputies to the location where they unwittingly provide the harrasing presence to the target. You got an innocent officer actually violating a persons civil rights and he doesn't even know it. Oftentimes of course, the officer (s) know that they are their to annoy you. When you've witnessed this garbage behavior for as long as I have you get good at determining who is who.

One police agency using another police agency. Police leadership using their personnel. Using the 911 emergency call system for illegal purposes. The taxpayers funding this without their knowledge. No concern for their safety as you harass targets. AKA a ghastly affair. I'm not kidding when I say that your law enforcement community acts like a cross between the Scarface and Godfather movies.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Dear 28 year long clueless one, your helicopter pilots enjoy harassing residents in Orange County especially while they are driving - which could be one day considered an act of attempted murder considering that the imbeciles are preventing a driver from keeping his eyes in front of him and not looking over the shoulder wondering where the wannabe winged terrorist prick is at the moment. Ask Stan Knee, Brad Gates or the leadership around Randall Gaston - I was introduced to this act of domestic terrorism in the 90's courtesy these dirtbags - notice that's before 9/11.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

You are either lying or you suffer from the separate compartments syndrome. Just like Bernard Madoff separated his company into a legitimate investment division and heinous trash division if you really believe what you say then you were always a member of the "good guys" division. Well as "good" as an OC cop can be anyway.

devldog87
devldog87

Montoya is the biggest fake there ever was. He is not a hero and does not deserve to be called one. His story of saving Marines is a lie and he did nothin to deserve anything more than a Service Defense Medal. Everyone gets this if they served during a time of war. If someone would investigate his actions by interviewing those Marines he supposedly saved, they would find a trail of lies by Montoya. They would discover he is a fake and an embarrassment to the Marine Corps.

devldog87
devldog87

Montoya did not earn anything. He received an award based on his lies and the lies of those who served with him. If there were any good reporters out there, the would look into this fake, who is propping himself up as a war hero. He never did any of the things he claimed to do in Iraq. Someone should ask those Marines he supposedly saved if he did the things he said he did. From someone who was there knows this guy is a coward and does not deserve any award or medal.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Who would have known that the FBI National Academy was a training ground for adult bully sociopaths? Maybe the FBI should apologize to the people of Orange County CA for unleashing such dangerous people on them.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

One evening, while I was watching the local news channel in my Bogota, Colombia hotel room I saw a story where the city of Bogota fired the entire traffic division of the Metropolitan police department because it wasn't worth trying to figure out who was a corrupt sleaze ball and who wasn't. So there is precedece for this sort of house cleaning. And immediately I thought about OC law enforcement.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

We have terrabytes of video tape and photographs of cop after cop deputy after deputy fire personnel after fire personnel criminal civilian trash after criminal civilian trash engaging in the act of criminal harassment of an American citizen in Orange County CA for the specific purpose of destroying a person's life. The types of criminal acts described in this lawsuit are some of the exact same criminal acts commited against me with the willing participation of the disgraceful Orange County Sheriffs department. Based on my over 16 years of experience with this law enforcement community it is my expert opinion that Mr. Montoya's allegations are factual.

daisyjffrsn
daisyjffrsn

Montoya is a fake? Lol, you almost sound like you work for the OCSD

ocsdspider
ocsdspider

It's great to be retired because I can now respond to your fabrications pertaining to the O.C.S.D. The deputies who represent this department have taken an oath to serve and protect the citizens of Orange County. I am not surprised that Sheriff Hutchins has never responded to your request for an interview. It would be like president Obama submitting to an interview to the National Enquirer.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Repeating a collections of words doesn't magically transform you into a person strong enough to honor that oath especially when it is difficult to do so. The idea that your deputies honor their oath is up there as one of the biggest cons against the American people ever. Right along Bernie Madoff stye Wall Street fraudsters and pedophile priests. We will be seeing your entire profession on a multi-part episode of American Greed one day. Assuming you don't collapse our society first because of it. And I worked in a collapsed society far far away for 11 years - nasty nasty nasty.

 
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