Why Does Obama Deport More Mexicans Than Dubya?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And what's the secret to making the best buñuelos on the planet?

DEAR MEXICAN: With the current state and federal prison system spitting out even harder criminals because of overcrowding and gang activity allowed to a certain degree by the "system," while considering the small percentage of inmates who actually make it out and live a positive life . . . why are some legislators, government officials and American citizens on public record stating that illegal immigration can be fixed by merely charging illegals money for first-time offenses and prison time for repeat offenders? Our prison system, I think, would create more criminally minded individuals and, if not, expose immigrants looking for a better opportunity in life to the savage nature of living behind bars. I feel that if the citizens of the United States ever vote in the "wrong" presidential candidate, our new president will be pressured to pass a law to something of that effect, which would only lead to immigrants of all nationalities having an even more negative stigma. We can sit here and discuss facts and charts and percentages of those who are in prison and if there are more white people in jail compared to Mexicans and blah blah blah . . . but what do we have to do in order to avoid such a scenario from occurring, as the sign of the times is pointing in that direction?

Worried for Wabs

DEAR GABACHO: Methinks you had a bit too much of the pruno before typing this letter, but I follow you. You're saying it's wrong for politicians to enact draconian laws that imprison undocumented folks and that we should elect a president who wouldn't support such measures. Problem is, American voters went for the "right" presidential choice with Barack Obama these past two elections, and look at the results: More deportations have occurred under his administration (about 400,000 people per year) than there ever was in the era of Dubya (who, for his many, many faults and sins, at least had the right ideas about Mexis, given his sister-in-law is one). Mitt Romney, of course, was a far-worse choice, what with him stealing the satiric idea of legendary cartoonista Lalo Alcaraz that illegal immigrants "self-deport"—but Obama is bad, and the escalating protests against him by the Left (witness the seven DREAMers last week who chained themselves to the White House fence) are not only a welcome development, but also absolutely vital.

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DEAR MEXICAN: Do Mexicans use cream of mushroom soup, or is that a gringo/Campbell's ploy to get white people to eat Mexican food? I grew up with parents from Kansas, and we lived in New Mexico in the late 1960s and early '70s. Being from the casserole generation, cream of mushroom soup was a staple of all casseroles, and my mom did not have the love for true green chile. The family chicken-enchilada recipe called for cream of mushroom soup and Velveeta cheese. I loved it growing up, but now that I am older and beyond nostalgia, the enchiladas taste like shit, so I am working on a new family recipe. During this process of formulating a new recipe has me wondering if cream of mushroom soup is at all used by those of Hispanic descent, or is it just a post-Depression white person's abomination?

One Royal Vomit

DEAR GABACHO: Don't forget that a lot of Mexicans came of age in the same era as you, so while cream of mushroom isn't exactly a Mexican pantry staple as, say, Tapatío, it's not unheard of. Mexican food is chameleonic and adapts to what's available, ensuring its brilliance. For instance? My mami's magnificent buñuelos—giant fried, airy disks of cinnamon-sugar goodness—are made not with flour tortillas or even masa but . . . rice paper that chinitos use for their spring rolls. Somewhere, Rick Bayless se cago his pants . . . and that's a good thing!

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griffinmichael
griffinmichael

Is it possible he ramped up deportations in a (probably futile) attempt to score enough toughness cred with Congress to push for reforms?

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

You're hilarious!   You don't answer the question of Worried for Wabs (why?) but go on and editorialize that President Obama is "bad".  What's Spanish for "Bad" I wonder?  President Obama is following the LAW, that is why there are more deportations than under President Bush.  President Bush let the 9/11 attackers come in over the Border and the flew a bunch of planes into buildings and killed over 3000 people.  These attackers were undocumented people - as in, they did not have the proper documentation to be in this country legally.  Not all undocumented in this country are from Mexico and most are NOT from Mexico (although many say they are in order to not be deported back to their actual home countries but only to Mexico).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/08/undocumented-immigration-decreasing_n_2632536.html


cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

Another thing is actually the Republican Party in California which get its highest percentage among whites not Hispanics or Asians has lost a lot of white vote. The OC Republican Party lives in the Reagan era where you have to pushed economic conservatism and social conservatism if the Republicans followed Rand Paul on state's rights and allow more for social liberals the Republican Party, whites would increase their voting in the state. Also, the Republican Party in the state is stupid on Taxes, a lot of Republican governors want to get rid of state income tax and go to the heavily property tax of Texas. The Republicans can pushed for the elimination of state income tax and get rid of prop 13, because income tax is no more and even if property taxes really rise they Republicans can say well Texas is like this and you are no longer paying state income tax. The Party is stubborn on the prop 13 issue. They can argued that now we have chance to take away aerospace employment from Washington and Texas. In fact I thought that only a few states are successful with the Republican model even if they are run by Democrats, one is the state of Washington that allows higher wages more Democrat but Washington has no state income tax-Republican. I also while think Hispanics and Asians particularly in the short term are gaining on whites in the State, in the long term Whites may make a comeback, in fact La and OC gains with whites from the North East where it is expensive as well and San Francisco and San Diego have regain some white population.

jpnightrain
jpnightrain

It's my understanding that the number of deportations under the Obama administrations are severely padded with "returns", i.e., those caught illegally crossing then returned by the border patrol.  Historically, these "returns" were never counted as deportations.   Do a google search to form your own opinion.

cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

Not a fan of W the President, but am fond of W the man and do believe he has a true affinity for Mexican Americans and Latinos in general. However, I do find his party to be hostile towards Latinos and they make no distinction between the American ones and the recent arrivals. The Democrats recognize Latinos as a part of the American fabric as much as the Italians and Irish when they came. That's the difference as I see it.

Well, people should not complain about why the GOP doesn't court Mexicans. For one Santa Ana is poorer than Mission Viejo, poverty is a factor in why Santa Ana votes more Democrat. Two the Republicans are two faced, I found out that Cruz the big hero of the Tea Party is for a lot of guest worker programs that drive down wages. He wants to import about 300,000 H1b vistas and I read of Americans kick out of jobs. And yes, native born Mexicans and Americans have lost thousands of construction jobs in the OC and La because the employers want cheap labor.

cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

Obama is smart, a lot of his Afro-American based supports this. In fact Afro-Americans faced more job competition than whites from Mexican and Central American immigrants, so to get people to sign on into his immigration reform bill,you had to do some deportation. Also, another thing a little off topic, Orange County 2011 birthrates, it seems Latins have dropped form 50.5 to 48.8 and Whites increase from 29.1 to 30.1 and Asians from 16.8 to 17.1. In fact I read about a turnout at South Coast Plaza on White women trying out for the housewives.. It seems that white women in South County have more 3 to 4 kids and this may explain it. Maybe in a couple years white births moved up to 33 and 35 and Hispanics dropped down to 45 and Asians to 18 and then 19. In fact under Obama Asian population is going up faster than under Bush.

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Mark Rickel
Mark Rickel

...I got one...why Mexican have to chirp their car alarms so freakin much......

José-Ariel Cuevas
José-Ariel Cuevas

Lots of my family members here in CA deserted the GOP after they were hijacked by the Orange County contingency (with prop 187 being the huge "¡Sálganse cabrones!" blaring klaxon.)

Paul Moreti
Paul Moreti

W and his rubber stamping republicans broke the economy , he was bad for everybody except the rich. As for president O , don't like his policies get involved and get people elected that will represent your interests.

Cris Garcia
Cris Garcia

Hmmm...How about we just enforce the law and stop pandering to hard luck stories and media deception about "immigration"? If the law needs to adapt, change it. Until then, let's try to keep things moving...in the right direction.

Guest
Guest

Cream of mushroom soup is served in many parts of Mexico but its all that artificial Maggi garbage.  Que lastima, because Mexico is blessed with wonderful natural wild mushrooms that provide excellent nutrition for nada.  But like so many other things, the modern packaged, processed gunk is viewed as mas desarollado and preferred by most over the real thing.

cortes.hairo
cortes.hairo

Just a correction, it wasn't dreamers that chained themselves to the White House last week. The youth from last week were busy sitting in at the CA Sheriff's Association. Including one from Orange County :)

Efriam A. Garza
Efriam A. Garza

I'm sure mist are aware Jeb married a Mexican woman...

Steve Lanzi
Steve Lanzi

I'm just in shock that Gustavo-- oops, I mean the Mexican-- is saying ANYTHING pro-W. The apocalypse is surely nigh!! ;-)

Lizy Moromisato
Lizy Moromisato

Dear Mexican, hmmm, I'm not too confident rice paper would do as a shortcut for buñuelos. Are you sure it's rice paper and not wonton skins what your madre uses? You can find a delicious snack in Chinatown called butterfly cookies that resemble buñuelos big time...and they're made with wonton skins. I'll try frying rice paper next time, though! :)

Milla CK
Milla CK

My abuelita and Tias made the dough for bunuelos from scratch and then made the jarabe de piloncillo from scratch also... I had no idea people used shortcuts... See? We wabettes are more Martha Steward-ish.

Ask a Mexican
Ask a Mexican

Of course there is—but if you don't like what you read, boot yourself before I do the deed.

Ask a Mexican
Ask a Mexican

If you're referring to Fast and Furious, I answered that already...

Ask a Mexican
Ask a Mexican

Dubya was a HORRIBLE president, but on Mexicans, he had the right idea...

Paul Lucas
Paul Lucas

He has been trying to suck up to the GOP base by being more bat shot crazy about certain things than w. I.E Immigration and MMJ prosecutions. It hasn't worked so he should just stop.

Coco Farias
Coco Farias

I came here for the secret to the buñuelos...

Luis Hernandez
Luis Hernandez

Gus your opinion is suspect anyway because you're from the O.C. btw Gus go E.A.D.!!

Cesar Alcantar
Cesar Alcantar

Wonder how long we're going to keep pretending like there's a difference when you look at the picture.

Milla CK
Milla CK

Gus... I am shocked!!! Mujeres de "este lado" don't make their bunuelos from scratch????? I am appalled!

Jeff O'Brien
Jeff O'Brien

I think Obama put more automatic weapons in the hands of the cartels then W did. Correct me if I'm wrong?

David El Belicoso Rodriguez
David El Belicoso Rodriguez

Gus, I too took a big dump in my pantalones just now. Not only are you Chicano, you are also from Califas which is so far left it's almost back to the right. For you to indulge in a madrazo to Mr. "El mas perron simply por virtud de no ser gringo, aunque nos parta la madre aun peor que el gringo mas chido Mr. Arpayaso" Obama. Maybe Mexis will one day open their eyes after all. Y de pasadita y muy pero que muy bajita la mano le mando un muy grande GATU a ese cabron prieto en la casa blanca. No por prieto, por Culero que es.

Kelly Brown
Kelly Brown

I found different Latinos from different states and or countries all have different views and issues and can not be lumped together. I live in South Florida and making Buenelos do not work here it is to humid and they do not stay crispy .

Efriam A. Garza
Efriam A. Garza

I know A LOT of American Latinos who are socially conservative that don't vote Republican anymore and have left the party.

Efriam A. Garza
Efriam A. Garza

Not a fan of W the President, but am fond of W the man and do believe he has a true affinity for Mexican Americans and Latinos in general. However, I do find his party to be hostile towards Latinos and they make no distinction between the American ones and the recent arrivals. The Democrats recognize Latinos as a part of the American fabric as much as the Italians and Irish when they came. That's the difference as I see it.

Ron Echeverri
Ron Echeverri

Wow, rice paper buñuelos... that's *brilliant*.

DonAlbertoDoyle
DonAlbertoDoyle

My landlord is a professional chef, I a pretty good amateur, down here in the Sierra Gorda, and we are never without a few cans of cream of mushroom soup.  A few jalapenos or habaneros, a little fried garlic and onion, a little mustard, and boom, you've got a sauce for pork, chicken or beef.  And the racks in any market will have Campbell's Cream of Mushroom and Cream of Celery.  I'm a transplanted gringo, but I presume Mexican kitchens have it for the same reason gabacho kitchens do -- it's really damn useful.  I'm gonna bet it's Campbell's biggest seller worldwide.  I'm not sure any deeper cultural analysis is required.

armandocdll81
armandocdll81

Why Does Obama Deport More Mexicans Than Dubya?

Maybe because law-breakers actually deserve to be held accountable for their transgressions? Ever think of that? 

Shoogi
Shoogi

Shut up, stupid!

Shoogi
Shoogi

You misspelled "deported", you wrote "deserted".

armandocdll81
armandocdll81

@Ask a Mexican Sending them to Iraq as cannon fodder?

spencerj05
spencerj05

@Jeff O'Brien 

Put more guns on the streets....

Deported more people....

Cracked down on more dispensaries....

All true.....

 
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