Andrew Guilford and Michael P. Brown Are Two Angry Men

[Moxley Confidential] Federal judge and plaintiffs' lawyer battle in county government retiree benefits case

To the plaintiffs' lawyer, Guilford is callous to the plight of the retirees, as underscored by the judge allegedly prolonging a key decision in the case for 14 months while "nearly 1,000 retirees [class-action members in the lawsuit] died waiting for a fair hearing of this claim."

I attended the showdown hearing and saw a peeved judge and an equally peeved lawyer. Guilford did not accept responsibility for any delays. He admitted he found Brown "superb in oral argument," but he was troubled by the lawyer's attitude and conduct: filing an avalanche of unnecessary papers; sending an obnoxious email to his clerk; and calling the county's retained lawyers, including Jennifer L. Nock, "third rate" and their arguments "idiotic."

The suggestion that likely unnerved the judge the most, however, was casting him as a snotty elitist. "In my years as a judge, no case of the hundreds of cases I have had has had a bigger impact on me than this case," Guilford said. "I take the claims made by the plaintiff in this case extremely seriously. . . . I feel impelled to state that my great-grandfather came to this country as a janitor. . . . My father was a bus mechanic. . . . From personal experience, I am very aware of the challenges of people like my father to provide for their families, to provide insurance. . . . I want to make that clear. . . . I swore to uphold the law, and I'm doing my best here to uphold the law."

Guilford declined to recuse himself; his colleague, James V. Selna, backed the decision. "Even if [Guilford's] remarks evidenced annoyance, dissatisfaction or even anger, it is clear that those remarks were directed to counsel and the innuendo that the judge was uncaring and callous," Selna declared. "A reasonable person would not conclude [Guilford] was biased [in the case]."

On June 6, Guilford formally ended the lawsuit, declaring that the plaintiffs "recover nothing." But the war might not be over. Upset that death has depleted the class-action pool by 4,000 people during five years of litigation, a relentless Brown is asking the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to quickly overturn Guilford's ruling.

 

This article appeared in print as "Two Angry Men: Federal judge and plaintiffs’ lawyer battle in county government retiree benefits case."

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Agustin Uranga
Agustin Uranga

I read It. Another case not of justice but just "The Law"

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

Would someone please explain to me why a public defender assigned to an elder abuse case of mine would tell me in an open courtroom (while I was sitting in the public section)  that I could not ever speak to the judge directly while I was in the courtroom because it would upset the judge. Yes this happened to me.

"The police report and the DA's complaint had all kinds of holes in it". - A Public Defender

Given a plea deal for anger management classes to save from having a jury trial when no anger was involved in the incident. This whole thing stinks.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Since the first day I was made aware by Stan Knee (former Garden Grove police chief), Brad Gates (former Orange County Sheriff), Randall Gaston (former Anaheim police chief) and their contemporaries in the CHP and parts beyond that I was a target of their criminal harassment, I've been convinced that this level of police criminality and corruption could not be possible without the complicity of individuals above these men. 

I would love to ask these 5 Orange County, CA federal court judges how they can be so unaware of what's happening under their collective noses. What makes four generations of Orange County law enforcement leadership think that they can get away with harassment / intimidation / deliberate reputation destruction / deliberate property damage / attempted murder FOREVER. 

The hubris and arrogance are almost more offensive than the crimes.  

German Santos

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

Does Andrew J. Guilford still do local law practice?

Maybe I need to email him on an unrelated matter, does anyone know how to get ahold of him?

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

Does Andrew J. Guilford still do local law practice?

Maybe I need to email him on an unrelated matter, does anyone know how to get ahold of him?

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

and they give me a plea deal of anger management classes when there was no anger involved because an alzheimers/dementia patient lied to the paramedics because he was on 47 different prescribed medications and I was his secondary caretaker. I got arrested for this.

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

)re: page 2)


Its not that Guilford isnt bias 


its whether or not he can rule in an unbias manner


IT IS POSSIBLE


For all people have a bias


and we cant or shouldnt have robots/computers decide cases


or should we?


and speaking of bias….


here come da 9th

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

So really its the Unions at fault and this time you are able to attach the republican "Stamp" alongside


but the fact remains, as far as the uppers getting those great benefits and the lowers not,,


thats the union 


it should be against the law for gov workers to have a union


but the Dems want it that way and yes some gop do too



michael1256
michael1256

A point of correction from Michael P. Brown:  I enjoyed reading the article, but I want to make a correction for the record.  I never wrote, said or suggested that Judge Guilford was a snotty elitist, or any kind of elitist.  What I said was that his decisions caused unnecessary delay in our time-sensitive case, and that his most recent decision would do the same.  Judge Guilford seemed to construe my argument as suggesting he was out of touch with working people, but that was not my intent and I do not think it was a fair reading of my arguments. 

p.s.  I don't intend this comment to be a full response to the article, but I think this one point is especially important.

Michael P. Brown

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

 I've seen an article in the paper recently where it said that Orange County is under investigation by the Justice Department and the FBI for CORRUPTION.

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

oh and I was told that I could not speak directly with the judge because it upsets the judge, what is up with that? It's my case and they are working on it.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

@tongue_twister_for_t I'll believe it when I see it. A great test as to whether there is outside oversight in ALL law enforcement agencies operating in the LA/Orange/San Diego county areas. 

If low rung players are hung but the crap at the top continues then it's just more of the heinous cover up routine.

 
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