Where the Black People At In OC?

A special report on Orange County's embarrassing lack of African-Americans

Where the Black People At In OC?
Illustration by Luke McGarry | Design by Dustin Ames

If Orange County were separated from Los Angeles and considered its own metropolitan area (and isn't it about time? There's only about 3.1 million of us, you know), we'd rank as one of only two metro areas in the nation's 25 largest with an African-American population of less than 5 percent—and we'd clock in at a pathetically low 2.1 percent. Of all of OC's many embarrassments, this is by far the worst—2.1 percent? In the 21st century? In a county that's otherwise wildly diverse? WTF?

Yet when we at the Weekly point this out, we get a collective shrug from OC residents, or mumbled excuses about how black people don't want to live here because black people don't live here. Or, better yet, pointing out the lack of black folks brings us accusations that we're racist for bringing up the subject in the first place. Stay classy, Orange County!

Why does this skewed demography matter? Because the harvest of such a pathetic situation bears its bitter fruit seemingly every year, with juvenile incidents that make us the butt of the national media again and again, incidents that can only originate from people who grew up or live without black people around them. Fraternities donning blackface for music videos. Surf shops deciding that a 50 percent-off-all-black-items sale for Martin Luther King Jr. Day is somehow funny. Bartenders writing, "McStinkynigger" and, "McNigshit" on the receipts of their black customers. Congressmen comparing Nelson Mandela to a rapist.

Enough's enough. It's time we call out our eternal shame. And this package of stories does that. We'll start with Michelle Woo's sobering report on the state of being black at UC Irvine, one of the most diverse campuses in the United States, yet one in which African-American students get harassed on an almost-daily basis. Music editor Nate Jackson reflects on growing up African-American in OC—an interesting life, to put it mildly. And I chime in with a timeline of the silliness we've put OC's African-Americans through over the past century.

But it's not all doom and gloom. Gabriel San Román chimes in with a dispatch from a bona-fide barbershop in Anaheim, home to the county's largest African-American community, one that's on the rise. And I review an amazing restaurant, one of just two honest soul spots in the entire county, a place with something called the soulrito that all of OC can unite around.

Our goal for this issue? Read our stories. Learn your history. Be embarrassed that we have such a minuscule African-American community. Then do something about it—that part, we leave to you. Oh, and the other major metro area with a black community of less than 5 percent? Portland, Oregon—its African-American community sits at 2.9 percent. Surely, we can do better than those hipster douchebags, right?

 
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CityGuy88
CityGuy88

I find the comments here both hilarious and disgusting. So many people making references to Detroit and Chicago as justifiable reasons why Blacks shouldn't be in OC, as well as claiming Whites are "too civilized" to want to live around Blacks. If this were truly the case, then why are SO MANY White people moving to Black cities like Brooklyn, Atlanta, and Oakland? Why are so many White (and Latino and Asian) folks imitating (and doing a horrible job I might add) Black music and culture? The reality is African-Americans are highly imitated and admired and young Whites are increasingly moving to areas that have been historically Black. Mexicans are moving to traditionally Black areas too; Compton, Inglewood, Long Beach, South Central, etc are all historically Black areas where many Latinos now live. So if Blacks are so undesirable as neighbors, why are all these non-Black folks going to live with them?


Now aside from the ridiculous comments here and the at times bizarre statements made in the article, here is the REAL reason OC doesn't have a larger Black population: 


1)The reason why California has so many Blacks and is one of the Blackest states in the nation (numerically), has everything to do with World War II. The Bay Area, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties have historically had the largest and densest population of African-Americans because of the presence of shipyards during WWII. Orange County had little to no shipyards, thus not ever becoming a big draw for the southern Blacks who migrated west to work at shipyards. 


2)OC has just never had a historic Black core. Even before WWII, San Francisco and Los Angeles had specific Black corridors (The Fillmore (SF) and LA's Central Ave. District) were there were established Black businesses and culture. OC just never had an equivalent to that. 


3)OC's reputation has not made it a very desirable place to live for most African-Americans. Make no mistake, there are MANY Blacks in Southern California with the means to live anywhere they choose, and for those of you uninformed, the nation's wealthiest Black neighborhoods are just a few miles away in LA (Baldwin Hills; Ladera Heights; View-Park Windsor Hills just to name a few). Most Black folks, like all other races, want to live where they'll feel comfortable and connected. Though it's getting better, OC just doesn't provide that outside of a few North OC areas. The funny thing is, there's increasingly more Blacks moving to areas surrounding OC, which is contributing to why you see more at popular malls and sites here. Long Beach and Corona border the County to the North and West, and both of those cities are magnets for Blacks. 


So the ignorance here really proves the general point the author was trying to make in the first place. And shame on the folks who say high crime and undesirability is only associated with the presence of Blacks. Have you been to Anaheim? Santa Ana? Some parts of Fullerton? There are PLENTY of areas in OC where Blacks are not present yet drugs, gangs, and crime run rampant. 


So let's not pretend for one minute that Blacks are required for an area to be undesirable.

TyroneJackson
TyroneJackson

I lived all over North Orange County in the 90s and 2000s.  I will never live there again.  There is a reason black people don't like to live in the OC.  I was just a teenager and I thought it was completely normal for police officers to pull you over and accuse you of something that you know you didn't do so that they can take your license into their cruiser for 15 minutes and eventually let you go with a warning.  Sometimes it would be something like my brake lights didn't work, but when after they would return my license they would ask me to check the brakes and suddenly they were working now.   I don't know how many times these kinds of things happened to me because it was pretty frequent, especially in the early 90s. 


I was pulled over three times over the course of 15 years and told that my car reeked of marijuana.  I was bullied out of my vehicle which was searched and eventually I was apologized to and allowed to go on my way.  Twice in Irvine, once in Newport beach.  I was harassed by police on many other occasions but the most I have is a speeding ticket. I would be stopped and they would say something like "a car matching this description was involved in a crime" or on my way somewhere they would say "you turned up ahead, Why were you avoiding us?"    



The last time I was there I made the huge mistake of going to the 24 hour fitness in Yorba Linda.  You would think that I owed half of the clearly ultra conservative, fox news watching, male clientele there a lot of money.  I was constantly stared down by groups of men from across the room.  Every machine I went to, I would look around to see at least one completely unashamed face staring at me as if I had just keyed his car.


IN my opinion OC is a breeding ground for the American Dream of last place avoidance for all non black people.  The idea that as long one enforces the perceived existing racial caste system then their children will never be in last place.


Cynco
Cynco

Riddle me this Mr. Arellano, how is referencing a “bona fide barbershop” as a legitimate beacon for the black race in OC not trivializing the social complexity of that race while also perpetrating a theatrical stereotype that likely makes socially ignorant groups, like frat boys, more inclined to think it’s ok to don blackface in jest?


Where in your so-called coverage are the thousands of African-American professionals who live and work in OC represented? Surely they exist. Further, are you not by attempting to embarrass and shame those who are not black for the lack of what YOU have deemed an unacceptable black census in the county at the same time stripping black people of the power to determine their own destiny?   


Oh I agree there is shame to be had here, Mr. Arellano, and it is in your over-simplified thinking on this topic.


#ArrogantNewbie

Rennieme
Rennieme

As a white person from another country, I unfortunately see why the rest of the world thinks America is full of uneducated loser hicks. I don't think I read one comment that didn't sound like a kkk member. Just letting you know you are an embarrassment to the rest of the world. I realize you don't care but a Christian nation you are definitely and obviously not

amhealy
amhealy

I have lived in Orange County for 55 years.  Huntington Beach, Costa Mesa, Santa Ana, Irvine, San Juan Capistrano.  I have never heard anyone say anything negative about black people.  I think it would be cool if more black people were here, but they're not.  I don't think it's because people in O.C. are racist and that keeps blacks away.  They just haven't lived here EVER.  I remember how at Edison High School, a couple of black guys enrolled and everyone was excited and wanted to be their friends.  They were the coolest kids on campus.  This article is way off base, imo.

mophisto.waltz
mophisto.waltz

According to the OC Weekly they are all at a barber shop in Anaheim.... 

crs1
crs1

This is probably the dumbest story I've ever read in OC Weekly. And I've read some pretty dumb articles in OC Weekly. 

Omeezee
Omeezee

I'm African American and live in San Diego. My brother has lived in Huntington Beach the last 10 years and he said at times it can be sorta 1950's America at times, but for the most part he has not had problems. Everyone I know lives where they have friends/family, and close to where they work. OC probably has few black people living in it because of those factors. Not denying that racism exist as we went on Main street one time and it was obvious we were not welcome in the bars, but whatever. Racially motivated people have always existed and always will. I still had a good time in the city and have not had a blatantly negative experience any of the times I've been there. Reading some of the comments below it seems that there are people who are very racially motivated but s**t, what else is new. As Chris Rock put it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_L7qoP17-w



stuckintheOC
stuckintheOC

Thank you for this. The comments on all the articles featured are unsettling to say the least,  serving to demonstrate the racist attitudes of many OC residents and their total inability to see how wrong those attitudes are. Oddly enough, I grew up in Portland, Oregon but had never observed such frequent acts of racism until I came here in 2002. (Maybe it had to do with my stomping grounds. The area I grew up in has the highest concentration of black residents at around 30 percent, though Portland as a whole is a very white city as that statistic you cited made clear.) If these comments are any indicator of the overall culture here, and I would argue they are, it'll be a long, long time before things improve.

BubbaB
BubbaB

I'm sorry, but this is garbage - "pathetically low 2.1 percent."  Why do you have to use the word pathetically?  Maybe they just want to live elsewhere (which you stated).  Stick to the food articles dude.  I do like how you said "hipster douchebags" though.  Funny stuff.  And come on - blacks being harrassed at UCI is an exaggeration.  My wife went to UCI and I've been on the campus many times.  All I see is Asian nerds - do you really think they're a credible threat to the safety of the black students.  I use the "N" word all the time, joking of course - like saying nigga please!  Does that make me a racist.  BTW - I'm white and my wife is Filipino.

RealBudDickman
RealBudDickman

If a white man moved to south central LA, would he be subjected to racism?

elvagotrago
elvagotrago

Make no mistake about it, Klavito wrote this article knowing it would get flamed.  Than he could say "See? See? we're surrounded by racists!"  It's called "Periodismo Amarillo", Comprende, entiende, y aprende.  Las obras del mente chico.

He doesn't give a fuck about blacks, he just wants to stir mierda, y cuenta page clicks.

RealBudDickman
RealBudDickman

Dude.... It's a free country. They can live where they want. What do you propose, import them by force? You spew some really stupid stuff. This may take the cake.

BlackInOC.com
BlackInOC.com

I must say I'm disturbed by the rantings of some of you; you, your practices and attitudes are part of the reasons OC is made such a joke of when it comes to Human Relations and the proof that this article is relevant. 

FYI, although small, there is a vibrant African American community in Orange County who lye below the radar of non AA's who have no vested interest in knowing what we do.  However, just know that OC individuals (probably like most on this thread) sometimes make it difficult to be here and there are countless stories of experiences that make "us" leave or want to leave the county. 

Did you read about some of the things said and done to other humans (in this case black Americans)? You should here the jokes made about you, OC.  If you can be proud of these things, then you have a personal problem. 

For me, I love it here (despite some of my personal experiences) and you won't push me out as others have left.  www.BlackInOC.com

peterman1
peterman1

You want more black people in your community?  Have you seen Detroit lately?

foxxy
foxxy

What an idiotic article. Nobody is keeping blacks out of OC and nobody is keeping whites out of Compton or East LA. They choose not to live there. Mexico must be racist because there are few blacks and whites. It's the 21st century. Mexico should be importing 20 million Africans to make their country more diverse

cgcarver
cgcarver

There are areas in OC where things do happen. Like in the county jail where blacks are protected from latino inmates. That is a good thing. 

Maybe a separated system to house the different races may work to keep different races alive. Perhaps, the good & holy Rev J. Jackson will front the Billions to build and maintain. No the Jackson is only interested in his blond life style not bloods. 

cgcarver
cgcarver

Oh come on man. "ur goal for this issue? ?Learn your history? Be embarrassed that we have such a minuscule African-American community. Then do something about it—that part, we leave to you.

You asshole, what, hand out shoe-shine kit to crackers?

What an asinine  statement! Me on the 5fwy with sign "will work to recruit blacks to OC"or will pay for blacks to move into the new OC development created for equality but only equality for blacks.

The editor is a jerk, worthless and dumb. Without the cover art work I would never picked it up. The paper will become non-existent for me and my OC family. 

You double down loser.


cgcarver
cgcarver

Dear Mr. Arellano and the OC Daily,

Thank you for your OCWeekly piece, “Where the black people at?

It appears to me that you did very little research before making an idiot of yourself and getting the Weekly to print your “WTF material”. Shame on them.

Perhaps the one group of people that you failed to recruit for OC is not needed in that way. A simulation is a natural instinct of humans. Equality cannot be recruited.

I do admire the time you took to high light a single rotten congressman relative to Mandela? What is U.S.A Population today? Bless you for you finding a needle in 700 million piles of hay?

No such thing would happen to others people of color. Today, you can chose: black, brown, red, yellow and lastly us crackers. Or any mix there-of plus Sammy Davis Jr. would gladly throw-in-poky-dot into the mix.

What do you have when you mix a white, yellow, black and red?

 Answer below

Me, my heritage is Scotch-Irish and Spanish or European.  Like Michael Jackson I to tried the skin dye thing and it didn’t work for me either. I just got browner in a tony tan kind of way. It was cool…           

My tiny community here in OC is a private residential development. It ranges from upper middle to upper-upper middle class earners.  Homes are roughly 1500+ to 2000+ sq ft with CC&R’s. When we moved in 1969-70 and population then was 96+% round eyes whities.                         Solution Below                                   

Soon our OC schools became world famous. That brought in the F.O.B’s and Parachuters. FOB’s, fresh off the boat Koreans. Parachuters are Korean kids dropped in to the community and the parents split back to work their businesses in Korea. The Koreans are smart business people but are very poor in simulation within the communities.            The Koreans themselves refer to my Burg as “K Town”.

                                                            Solution Below

I mentor a Korean lady and she tells me that the Asians do not like the Koreans because the Koreans are stuck-up and think of themselves as the “white or white Asians”. Perhaps your discrimination list just got a little bit longer? But wait the list will grow.                                                Solution Below

The Koreans’ in OC don’t much like blacks because of the Watts riots. The storekeepers thought the hood would help them protect their property. They Did Not.

It was Koreans that improved property values in Watts. It was the Koreans that hired locals and gave out credit. The blacks didn’t help them…instead they robbed and shot at them. And you want this mentality in your community? I am just asking Bro.                                                            Solution Below

As one local Watts women said on national TV, “we’ve burned down our post office now how am I going to feed my chillans? This endearing statement by her and left a large ugly footprint in all ethnic hearts.

                                                            Solution Below

Perhaps it is not the crackers keeping blacks out OC.  An Indian friend was in OC studying to become a pharmacist. He told me that Indians did not like the white Britt’s because they called the Indians the N word. They also did not like the blacks because some blacks thought of them as not Indians but as black brothers. They wanted to merry their daughters.

                                                            Solution Below

One last comment for you to chew-on, my block: one black (renters-no women) families: one Japanese, one Pilipino, 5 Koreans and 3 whites.  We only see ethic food and honesty in this mix, my man.

Solution Below

Me, I would love to have more middle-class and upper middle-class black families in my neighborhood. They are nice people.  I am from the "Home of Scholars & Champions", a small school with just over 5000 thousand students…see PCH & Atlantic for directions.

                                                            Solution Below

Solution, See a realtor; Money is green.

The answer to the question: a cute baby!

Regards CGC

GustavoArellano
GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

Congrats to all the losers on this thread who are only confirming the truths of our stories, and justifying why we published it in the first place!

whurrdablackiesat
whurrdablackiesat

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2006/winter/la-blackout

Latino Gang Members in Southern California are Terrorizing and Killing Blacks

Acting on orders from the Mexican Mafia, Latino gang members in Southern California are terrorizing and killing blacks.

LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- Ascending the steep steps that lead from the street to the scene of her son's murder, 47-year-old Louisa Prudhomme is charged by a Doberman Pinscher.

Prudhomme reaches over a gate and gives the guard dog a rough pat on the head.

"Sam doesn't seem to remember me," she says.

What Prudhomme will never forget is that just past the snarling Doberman is the apartment on a hill where six years ago her 21-year-oldson Anthony was shot in the face with a .25-caliber semi-automatic while lying on a futon she had purchased for him from IKEA. He died wearing a shirt that read, "Keep the Peace."

Anthony Prudhomme was slain by members of the Avenues, a Latino street gang. But he was not a rival gang member, or a police informant, or a drug dealer. The Avenues did not target him for the content of his character, or even the contents of his apartment.

They targeted him for the color of his skin.

Prudhomme was murdered because he identified himself as black (he was in fact mixed-race) in a neighborhood occupied by one of the many Latino street gangs in Los Angeles County. Incredibly, even though these gangs are fundamentally criminal enterprises interested mainly in money, gang experts inside and outside the government say that they are now engaged in a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" -- racial terror that is directed solely at African Americans.

"The way I hear these knuckleheads tell it, they don't want their neighborhoods infested with blacks, as if it's an infestation," says respected Los Angeles gang expert Tony Rafael, who interviewed several Latino street gang leaders for an upcoming book on the Mexican Mafia, the dominant Latino gang in Southern California. "It's pure racial animosity that manifests itself in a policy of a major criminal organization."

"There's absolutely no motive absent the color of their skin," adds former Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Michael Camacho. Before he became a judge, in 2003, Camacho successfully prosecuted a Latino gang member for the random shootings of three black men in Pomona, Calif.

"They generally don't like African Americans," Pomona gang unit officer Marcus Perez testified in that case. "If an African American enters their neighborhood, they're likely to be injured or killed."


whurrdablackiesat
whurrdablackiesat

http://www.justice DOT gov/opa/pr/2013/February/13-crt-174 DOT html

Two California Men Indicted in Federal Hate Crime Case Stemming from New Year’s Eve Attack on African-American Youths

A federal grand jury has indicted two members of the Compton 155 street gang on federal hate crime charges related to a racially motivated attack on four African-American juveniles at a residence in the city of Compton, Calif., on New Year’s Eve.

Jeffrey Aguilar, aka “Terco,” 19, and Efren Marquez Jr., who is also known as “Stretch” and “Junior,” 21, were named in a five-count indictment returned late yesterday by the grand jury.

The indictment specifically charges Aguilar and Marquez with one count of conspiracy to interfere with housing rights and four counts of interfering with housing rights. The indictment alleges that they attempted to intimidate African-Americans from living in Compton. 

Aguilar and Marquez allegedly are members of the Compton 155 street gang, which uses violence and threats of violence in an effort to drive African-Americans out of their “territory” on the west side of Compton. According to the indictment, members of the Compton 155 gang often refer to themselves as “NK” or “N***** Killers.” To instill fear in African-Americans, members of the gang tag their gang moniker and “NK” throughout their “territory.”

“Hate-fueled crimes have no place in our society,” said U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California Andre Birotte Jr. “No one should have to look over their shoulder in fear because of who they are. Incidents like the one described in the federal indictment prove that we must remain vigilant to ensure that the rights of every single American resident are protected at all times.”

“The Civil Rights Division will continue to protect the right of every person who lives in this country to do so free of racially-based violence and intimidation," said Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.  “The Justice Department will not tolerate those individuals or gangs who would prevent a family from living in a particular neighborhood simply because of their race or the color of their skin.” 

The indictment specifically alleges that on Dec. 31, 2012, Aguilar, Marquez and a co-conspirator confronted an African-American juvenile, who was walking on a street in Compton, and threatened him by referring to themselves as “NKs.” The 17-year-old victim ran to his girlfriend’s house, where three other African-American juveniles were located. Aguilar and Marquez followed the 17-year-old victim to the home, yelled racial slurs at the four juveniles at the residence, and demanded that the African-Americans get out of the neighborhood. Aguilar and Marquez then allegedly assaulted the 17-year-old victim with a metal pipe and threatened another juvenile with a gun.

After the juveniles managed to escape and run into the house, the indictment alleges that Aguilar and Marquez left the scene and informed other gang members that the African-American juveniles lived in their “territory.” Shortly thereafter, Aguilar and approximately 15 other gang members went to the victims’ home and threatened them by yelling racial slurs and warning the juveniles that they did not belong in the neighborhood. During this time, a member of the gang smashed one of the windows of the house.

“The FBI is committed to the protection of civil liberties,” said Bill Lewis, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI's Los Angeles Field Office. “No one should tolerate violence based on the color of their skin or live in fear based on the hatred of others.”

“Hate crimes seriously threaten our society’s democratic principles and affect the entire community,” said Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca. “We had one hate crime in Compton for 2012, but one is too many. Tolerance is the key element of democracy.”

An indictment contains allegations that a defendant has committed a crime. Every defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.

Aguilar and Marquez had been in state custody on unrelated charges. They were transferred to federal custody early this morning and are expected to be arraigned on the indictment this afternoon in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles.

If convicted, Aguilar and Marquez each would face a statutory maximum penalty of 10 years in prison for each of the five civil rights charges alleged in the indictment.

The case against Aguilar and Marquez is the result of an ongoing investigation being conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

The case is being prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Reema El-Amamy of the Violent and Organized Crime Section of the U.S. Attorney’s Office and Trial Attorney Saeed Mody of the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.



Reasonable
Reasonable

Where are all the blacks? They have been excluded from OC by your black hating, illegal invading mestizos. As you know Gustavo, La Razas do not like blacks all that much.

jinhere22
jinhere22

@amhealy THERE ARE RACIST PEOPLE IN OC... WHY YOU DONT THINK BLACK PPL DON'T GO TO NEWPORT BEACH, HUNTINGTON BEACH, ANAHEIM..ONLY place where ppl accept you is Laguna Beach the most friendliest place I've been in OC

Rennieme
Rennieme

White people always say they never notice racism lol. That's cause we are white !

Rennieme
Rennieme

Omg this is why Americans get the imbecile stereotype. Did you really just say you (a white man) use the n word all the time as a joke and ask if it makes you racist ? And right after you said all you see is Asian nerds?! Bubba you are a racist

Rennieme
Rennieme

Probably not. As a white woman I have never encountered that. Also check out the "what would you do" episode where the white woman walks into the black barbers and they cause a scene. All the black people stood up for the white girl. Reverse that and the white person is more likely to be racist.

Omeezee
Omeezee

@RealBudDickman No. He would be the safest person there. No one would paint a swastika on his home or car and he would be safe because he would be the only person if harmed, would get 24hr news coverage until someone (not always the culprit, but someone) was arrested. 

crs1
crs1

@elvagotrago


"Portland, Oregon—its African-American community sits at 2.9 percent. Surely, we can do better than those hipster douchebags, right?"


My favorite quote from the article sums up the hypocrisy of the author. Hating on one group of people to which he feels he is superior, just to prove a point about how we're all racists.

Rennieme
Rennieme

As a canadian I'm shocked to read the comments on here. Thought this level of stupidity died with the Archie bunker era. Sorry to hear that

sgbrown10
sgbrown10

@BlackInOC.com yes OC is a joke like Detroit, East St Louis and Oakland it is hell disgusting full of ignorant toothless crackers....why do you live here then?

Omeezee
Omeezee

@peterman1 Actually Detroit was a pretty diverse city. It looks the way ti does now primarily because the auto industry left.

sgbrown10
sgbrown10

@foxxy seriously mexico has a problem with structural racism they kick African illegals SHAME of them racist taco eating savages!@

Cynco
Cynco

@GustavoArellano  Riddle me this Mr. Arellano, how is referencing a “bona fide barbershop” as a legitimate beacon for the black race in OC not trivializing the social complexity of that race while also perpetrating a theatrical stereotype that likely makes socially ignorant groups, like frat boys, more inclined to think it’s ok to don blackface in jest?


Where in your so-called coverage are the thousands of African-American professionals who live and work in OC represented? Surely they exist. Further, are you not by attempting to embarrass and shame those who are not black for the lack of what YOU have deemed an unacceptable black census in the county at the same time stripping black people of the power to determine their own destiny?   


Oh I agree there is shame to be had here, Mr. Arellano, and it is in your over-simplified thinking on this topic.


#ArrogantNewbie

sgbrown10
sgbrown10

@GustavoArellano miyate lover you need a beat down from a Santa Ana gang you are a disgrace to the Mexican race, i bet you arrange for blacks to gang rape your hina, that is what a faggot maricon pussy you are,  or you let blacks shit on your maricon face! why no blacks in mexico hombre?? because la raza is smart they dont want the walking HIV virus


spokkersan
spokkersan

@GustavoArellano Crime statistics justify the way in which people select where to live, that is, as far away from large concentrations of blacks as they can afford. Until the progressive prescriptions for solving these racial gaps kick in and start working, people will continue to use "good schools" as a proxy for desirable demographics when purchasing a home or a place to rent.

Between 2000 and 2010 there were 165,000 homicides in America (not counting Florida). Of these, 68,000 were black offenders, nearly 50,000 were white, 15,000 were Hispanic/Latino and 51,000 were unknown. Considering that blacks are 13% of the population, but generate more murderers than the much larger white population, people are going to react to this. Most of those crimes are black on black. 

We can argue all day over why these disparities exist (racism, culture, poverty, genetics, etc.), but people who have no control over them are going to stay away from where the crime is happening if they can manage it. If the problem is in fact racism, and if we only integrate more the racial crime gaps would disappear, then it will never be solved because no one wants to be the first to see if it's true. 

Personally, I think we should start looking at what scholars like Thomas Sowell and Walter E. Williams have to say on this topic. 

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@realbuddickman, No Swastika, your right, Of Course No TV, No Stereo,etc. after the hood burglarizes his house! and of course no damage to his car! Because that MOFO would be gone from auto thiefs, again, from the hood!

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

Your right! he doesn't give a damn about blacks! Have you ever heard any Mexicans give a damn about blacks?? or visa versa?? I don't think there is one black living in Mexico! Why don't he make note of that? Are Mexicans down in Mexico all Hipster Douchebags?? What a fucked up story and logic to go with it!!

faustuscoven
faustuscoven

@Rennieme I'm shocked!! Shocked, I tell you !!

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@Blackin OC,com, Reality check! You have no idea how much we laugh at you! Especially Detroit! Houses for sale for 50.00?? Payments a whopping 1.00/month?? And still? You couldn't give em' away!! You take a neighborhood and ghetto it! 2.1% is more then enough! We want Irvine to be pristine just the fucking way it is!! Racist? who gives a fuck? Just want to be able to walk down some neighborhoods at night!!!!!

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@peterman1, Detroit was always a ghetto! The good law abiding people lived on the outskirts and commuted to the auto industries! But affirmative action destroyed the auto industry over there!

Rennieme
Rennieme

Dude you are like living in hell on earth. See a pastor or at least a psychologist

spokkersan
spokkersan

@whurrdablackiesat I have heard Gustavo speak out against Latino-Black violence when he was asked about it. He does not condone it.

That being said, I think those stories are good examples of racial tensions where whitey is nowhere to be found. Blacks have been uneasy with the amount of Mexican immigration into South Central Los Angeles and some believe that Mexicans have displaced them. Fox 11 used to cover these tensions.

Going even further, it may be insensitive to say but Latinos are less criminal as a group than blacks. It's logical to assume one of the reasons there is less crime in South Central today, aside from the overall drop in crime seen nationally, is that Latinos have displaced blacks somewhat. Many blacks have also dispersed to Palmdale as section 8 vouchers allow you more flexibility in where to live. Of course, some of the problems have also gone with them.

crs1
crs1

@GustavoArellano @Reasonable Actually I've highlighted the stupidest comment in the thread. It's from your article -


"Surely, we can do better than those hipster douchebags, right?"


You're no better than the people you pretend to condemn. 

 
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