Are Doyer Dogs Not Only Disgusting, But Also Offensive?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And what happens when someone's a little too into a book . . .

DEAR MEXICAN: I went to a Los Angeles Dodgers game today and noticed there are now Doyer Dogs, which are fucking disgusting and covered in nacho cheese, jalapeños and chili. Not that it doesn't have potential, but this is Dodger Stadium here, not a food truck.

Do you think it's more offensive to Latinos (specifically the Latino population of Southern California/Los Angeles) to advertise "Doyer Dogs" instead of just calling them Mexican Hot Dogs? At the game today, I thought the Dodgers should do a better job embracing the Latino community as real fans, instead of Doyer Fans. I don't think this is a popular opinion, but after today's game (which was my fourth this year), I feel as though much of the notion about the "bad crowd" at Dodger Stadium is just a majority of white people in Los Angeles being uncomfortable in public around large groups of Latinos. I think some white people, who are not part of a particularly multicultural/ethnic community, might be uncomfortable taking their family to someplace such as Dodger Stadium where they might be in open seating with people who don't look like them. You think there's any validity in this?

Son of Steve Garvey


DEAR POCHO: Far more offensive than any perceived etymological affront is the Dodgers' field performance this season, as well as your all-over-the-place question, which is as erratic as Tommy Lasorda after hearing a question about Dave Kingman. Let's parse through this: There's nothing offensive about calling Mexican-themed hot dogs Doyer Dogs—it's a nod to how Mexican immigrants pronounced the Dodgers and to their children who grew up loving that pronunciation because it showed their parents were trying to assimilate into this country. There is no hope in said Doyer Dog—if the Dodgers were really smart, they'd realize that Mexicans like hot dogs wrapped in bacon, topped with carne asada, and drizzled with mayo, mustard and Tapatío hot sauce, not pinche chili and nacho cheese. You're right about some gabachos being skittish to attend Dodger games because of ethnic fear, but it ain't the pochos or wabs they don't like; it's the cholos who are loud throughout the game, and—little-known secret!—a lot of the pochos and wabs who are die-hard Doyers fans don't like those cholos, either, especially when they ruin Vicente Fernández and Ramón Ayala concerts with their borracho caterwauling and pointless mad-dogging stare-downs.

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CONFIDENTIAL TO: The youngster in Ms. Fiedler's class at Kepner Middle School in Denver who stole my book. You have a cool teacher! She read my book to your class, and you obviously liked my libro so much that you wanted your own copy—that's cool! But taking it from your maestra without her permission? Not cool. If you would've asked her, I'm sure she would've let you borrow it for as long as you wanted. I don't want to get you in too much trouble—I stole a Beatles CD when I was your age, and I know how school administrators love to administer draconian justice on young Chicanos for any reason. You don't need a mark on your young life, especially over my book.

But I need you to man up—stealing stuff puts our raza down and is disrespectful to Ms. Fiedler. So tell you what: Return my book and confess your sin to her. She'll punish you the way she sees fit, she'll let me know once it's done, and I'll send you an autographed copy of my libro for learning your lesson and for taking responsibility. Sale vale? I know you'll do the right thing, son; now, make your Mexican proud.

 
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bimborc
bimborc

There has always been a tendency by Mexicans, Chicanos, Latinos (whatever) to be ashamed of working class or uneducated Mexicans. It is not surprising for many immigrant Mexicans who love the Dodgers, and who have not yet mastered the queen's English, to pronounce "Dodgers" as "Doyers"...I have heard it said thousands of times by thousands of Mexicans in my 40 plus years as a Doyer fan and yes, some Mexican folk do really speak like that. As far as the hot dog, get this...it's a hot dog, that although may be offensive tasting, is harmless. I don't think your average Dodger fan has time to think about this crap...to busy praying for a win streak. So pass the Doyer Dog and cold Corona to this fat Mexican who loves the Doyers. :' ) 

lisaleeschaefer
lisaleeschaefer

I have to disagree and say that it IS offensive - the stereotype of the Mexican who cannot speak is irritating to me .  I am Hispanic and I do not have an accent.  My grandparents were immigrants from Mexico and did not speak a lick of English when they got here.  They do not speak like that; their English is quite good.  Why not call them nacho chili dogs?

HalfMexi
HalfMexi

Best bacon wrapped dogs are in La Paz, Baja´s numero uno street cart gourmet eats... (and the best fish tacos are still in Rosarito Beach). Time for a vacation peeps - get away from that garbacho/chicano wannabee food - head to Baja!!!

Steve SanFilipo
Steve SanFilipo

I enjoy about half of OC Weekly's content. They are kind of edgy and reading about local stuff is cool. But the other half of their stuff is either white people, affluent people, or cop bashing or downright race baiting.

Steve SanFilipo
Steve SanFilipo

I feel as though much of the notion about the "bad crowd" at Dodger Stadium is just a majority of white people in Los Angeles being uncomfortable in public around large groups of Latinos." - Tell that to the Giants fan that was beat into a lifetime, vegetable state. " I think some white people, who are not part of a particularly multicultural/ethnic community, might be uncomfortable taking their family to someplace such as Dodger Stadium where they might be in open seating with people who don't look like them. You think there's any validity in this?" -But the non whites are what make Los Angeles great! Haha.

itchy
itchy

they produce fearsome pethos

STOPTHERECONQUISTA
STOPTHERECONQUISTA

TRY THE 'I HATE GRINGOS' DOG. THEY SERVE IT EVERY TIME THE MEXICAN SOCCER TEAM PLAYS IN LOS ANGELES. THEY ALSO BOOOOOOO THE US NATIONAL ANTHEM. ONE WOULD THINK THERE IS NO WORD IN SPANISH FOR 'APPRECIATION' OR 'GRATITUDE'. i MEAN....IT'S NOT LIKE THIS COUNTRY GAVE THEM OPPORTUNITY OR ANYTHING.

truthtimenonfiction
truthtimenonfiction

Now I've gotta' know,  where can I score a hot dog wrapped in bacon, topped with carne asada, and drizzled with mayo, mustard and Tapatío hot sauce in the OC?

Aileen Calor
Aileen Calor

you stole a Beattles CD when you were how old? Go Vegan!

Belen C Bueno
Belen C Bueno

one time the vendor asked me if I wanted said "Doyer Dog." I just thought she had an accent. This was the first year that they had them and I didn't know what it was. So I ended up with a huge, gross hot dog. Like a true Mexican I took it home for my husband.

Ezra Frida
Ezra Frida

I speak with an accent and I don't find it endearing or flattering when gringos o coconuts make fun of my accent, and this is what is happening with the "doyer" dog. Other may not find it offensive and that is their prerogative, but I do find it offensive because they are not trying to be inclusive but todo lo contrario.

Jose Bermudez
Jose Bermudez

on the OC weekly website this survey was one of the ads that float on the side of the browser

Jon Martin
Jon Martin

Mexicans are a lot like white people in that they find imitation flattering. Time to make myself a Doyer dog in true Mexi style!

Bob Platt
Bob Platt

Jerks in the stands are jerks, regardless of ethnicity. But nacho cheese on a hot dog is just gross. I'd much rather have the hot dog described in the article.

Anne Bagasao
Anne Bagasao

With regard to the Doyer Dog...I agree..the larger offense is that only a dude with an Affliction shirt from Fontana would eat anything with Nacho Cheese on it. Seriously, Dodgers? The bacon wrapped with mayo and whole grill chiles should be the Doyer Dog!!!! How hard is it????? You are in LA!!!! Is their effin food consultant from South Pasadena????

Jose Bermudez
Jose Bermudez

Did you see this survey on the website? Which most reflects your opinion: SELECT ONE ANSWER I only speak English I can speak Spanish but prefer to read in English I speak Spanish and prefer to read in Spanish (Yo hablo español y profiero leer en español) I prefer not to respond I don't see the option. I speak both and use both interchangeably

Goldi Crystal
Goldi Crystal

Me too. Having worked with junior high kids before, I thought of a few kids that pulled that kind of stuff--si da tristeza cuando algunos no han aprendido a respetar lo ajeno.

Goldi Crystal
Goldi Crystal

Agreed...that question by SofSG was all over the damn place! What was it, again? LOL! The advice was awesome -- ojala te haga caso el muchachito!

Francisco Reyes
Francisco Reyes

Chales I'm glad u only speak for the wanna-be preppy angel fans. I consider myself a Hard-Core Mex-ican living in Los Angeles cholos don't scare or bother me only the wanna-be's in anything do.King Taco Rifa in dodger stadium.

Milla CK
Milla CK

You are going to be a great Papi and a great Tio Gus! Good advice!

itchy
itchy

at the present rate, gustavo, how long will it be until every person in mexico has been murdered?

AlbertoBurns
AlbertoBurns

This is a team that included Manny Ramirez and you think their food is offensive?  I guess the Sureno burger isn't going to please you either.

electrichead
electrichead

It's not the ethnicity that drives people away from Dodger games, it's that it's a filthy stadium filled with rude people.  As a Caucasian I once attended a game where a Caucasian woman changed her babies S*&*ty diaper in the stands as the vendor walked up the aisle yelling get your chocolate malt.  That was my last dodger game and I've certainly never had a taste for a chocolate malt again.

whatevas
whatevas

Doyer Dog offensive ??? Steve Garvey have you seen the menu at taco bell or Del Taco..??

mrbigkwd
mrbigkwd

@Ezra Frida you sound the same.maybe if you prononce it as doyer it will come out good english,like it should

juandos
juandos

@Ezra Frida Well then learn some English words and pronounce them properly if you want some that inclusion crapola...

Mantonat
Mantonat topcommenter

@electrichead That's pretty cool that you can change your ethnicity at will! do ever attend events as anything other than Caucasian?

 
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