Mr. Moxley, Mr. Strader and I met early in June I told that Ms Shea, nothing more. I looked at Mr. Strader background on the internet and found he haf supported Mr. Lalloway in 2010.
My campaign director Roger Lee insisted I run. Roger felt that this would provide me a platform that I otherwise would not have had since so many incumbents were running year after year. And guess what, it did you are still writing and discussing this story.
I had every intention of not following lockstep behind people that were dishonest. Perhaps it’s time that you try to get over this obsession with Agran and the Democrats in general and turns your sights on the reublican party. You are fond of stating over and over that Larry Agran has held power in a republican dominated populace. You are also not incorrect in pointing out the sometimes questionable tactics used by Agran to maintain power.The voting public is aware of the reputation of Mr. Agran and understands what he’s all about.If Choi and Shea were better candidates, candidates the republican base could truly get excited about, no amount of supposed “fake” candidates would derail their campaigns.The truth is the average rank and file Irvine voter sees right through Choi and Shea and realizes they’re not all that different than the democrats on the other side of the aisle. Thank you for the discussion Mr. Moxley
I am faling to follow your logic since both Choi and Shea were elected and you didn't even come close. Kathrine, you really should find a better pastime than whining and snivelling on the internet.
@ltpar @gregdiamond @kdaigle362 "No one believes her" except two of us. Well, that should be easy to disprove. Do you give much thought into the factual basis of that sort of confident assertion before you unleash it? Moxley is apparently (from what I've read here) getting the e-mails and -- my feeling this way may shock him -- I tend to think that he'll give an honest accounting of them, especially because I hope to have the next crack at them. (That will raise questions about his original sources on the topic and whether they gave him a partial story -- but that is a discussion for another day.)
Meanwhile, you seem awfully intent on shutting down all inquiry right now, before it goes an inch further. That's really sort of strange, Patrick. What's your hurry to make sure that no investigation of how Moxley was led down the wrong path here, if he was, takes place?
@kdaigle362 "Turn your sights on the reublican party?" Like yourself, right?
@GustavoArellano @gregdiamond @kdaigle362 I'm defending the position that appears to be right. (I defended Rackauckas in your pages when Moxley went after him for supposedly illegal actions, too.) Lots of OC Democrats -- a lot of the same ones that you tussle with, as a matter of fact -- will attest that I don't defend them (in fact, quite the contrary) when I think that they they're doing wrong and I have no problem with defending a Republican (even against a Democrat, and certainly against an onion-skinned journalist) who is apparently being unfairly maligned.
Similarly, you could conceivably convince me that Agran has acted improperly -- you have just failed to do so despite being pressed for evidence. All you give is your assurances -- and your assurances suck. We'll see whether the e-mails that Moxley is getting corroborate her story of why she chose to run for Mayor -- and if they do, we'll see if you have the grace to admit your journalist errors rather than just changing the subject.
One of is is being a hack here, but I don't think it's me.
@ltpar No, Larry changed. He once stood up against the Irvine Co.—when he became besties with him is when the tide turned...
@kdaigle362 Hi again Katherine: you are down playing your secret, behind the scenes contact with Agran re-election agent, Great Park private housing lobbyist Patrick Strader, and overstating the role of Ms. Shea. I understand. You got yourself into an embarrassing mess. You probably do have some good intentions. But you were used by individuals far more politically sophisticated than yourself. If campaign consultant Roger Lee was among those who told you you could win the mayor's race, then you might consider enrolling him in an institution for idiots or (hmmmm, Mr. Lee is a veteran, liberal Democrat like Agran) applaud his skillful manipulation of your Republican candidacy into . . . yes . . . last place. Unlike Mr. Lee, I'm not in the business of spinning voters for $. Before the election I repeatedly predicted--it was not difficult--that you'd be trounced and, dear, you were. If you want to continue to pretend you weren't a tool for the disgusting, corrupt Agran machine, then, of course, go ahead. But I'm not joining that bandwagon because it's pure, ridiculous fantasy. You were (allegedly) running against Agran for mayor and yet the Agran machine spent tens of thousands of dollars touting your campaign and attacking Choi. If you continue to deny that eye-opening, irrefutable fact, then, well, I'm going to think you were part of the scam to trick the voters of Irvine and the gosh-who-me? pretense you spout is nothing but shameful BS.