Are Mexicans Having Fewer Babies?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And what's the true story of the 1920s Cristeros revolt in Mexico?

DEAR MEXICAN: Can you please tell me something? How is it fair that all the people who come to our country and stay get treated far better than some of the people who have busted their butt all their lives here?! You people take all the white men's jobs and leave us wondering how to support our families, and you people have NEVER heard of the condom because if you have noticed—I sure have—your trashy kind are taking over. And you would think that if you go to another country, you would respect the people enough to learn the language spoken, which, here in the United States of America, is ENGLISH! Please go back where you should be, and stop taking all the benefits white people deserve. You all disgust me.

South Carolina Taco Eater

  

DEAR GABACHO: This is what I love about ustedes Know Nothings: your aggressive ignorance of facts. A 2012 study by the Pew Research Center revealed that the birthrate for Mexican women is falling sharply, for both Chicanas and mexicanas. And while the birthrate for those mujeres is still higher than the birthrate for gabachas, it's expected, not so much because Mexicans are naturally fecund, but because immigrants in general tend to have more kiddies than native-born Americans. Don't believe me? The Pew Research Center also revealed that the percentage of children with foreign-born mothers is as high as the turn of the 20th century, the last time trashy, non-English-speaking immigrants came to this country to save the States from native-born pendejas such as yourself.

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DEAR MEXICAN: I checked out of the Newport Beach Public Library a 2012 film titled For Greater Glory merely because my favorite actor (Peter O'Toole) was in it. And I was pleasantly surprised to find myself watching a well-told tale of a dramatic piece of Mexican history—La Cristiada—I'd never heard of. It seemed a pretty cut-and-dry instance of good vs. evil: President Plutarco Calles in the 1920s brutally repressed Mexican Catholics from practicing their Catholicism. What surprised me was to then visit the IMDb message board for the moview and find some Mexicans who had viewed the film vehemently taking the side of Calles. Are Mexicans not so hyper-Catholic as I imagine??

Bewildered Wasp

 

DEAR GABACHO: Just because one doesn't side with the Cristeros doesn't mean that one can't be a good Catholic (and, yes, custodians of Shakespeare: I just used three negatives in a language where double-negatives are a no-no!). And, as typical of Hollywood when it comes to Mexican tales, For Greater Glory grossly simplifies the Cristeros revolt—but instead of me preaching, I'll direct you to a withering critique offered by Rudy Acuña, the legendary godfather of Chicano studies who's still at it in his golden years (he also just put the smackdown on the Mexican's pal, Ruben Navarrette, and his bizarre attack on undocumented students). You can find the profe's piece by googleando "Rudy Acuña Cristeros," but his summation is one that I agree with: Calles was enforcing the secularization mandates of the Mexican Revolution, which sought not to stop people from expressing their faith, but rather take away the meddling might of the Catholic Church—you know, that whole chingadera about the separation of church and state? The Catholic Church, as is true today in the United States when it comes to Obamacare, took Calles' enforcement of the Mexican Constitution as an existential attack on Mother Church, and the two sides butchered each other. Los Cristeros are still hailed as martyrs in Catholic Mexico, while historians nowadays consider Calles' attack on Mexican Catholics as a continuation of the country's constant conflict between the Church and its natives. But if you think Calles was a butcher, you should've seen what the padres did to the indigenous folks back in the days—simple facts that Cristeros fans never want to acknowledge because those priests make Calles look like blessed John Paul II.

 
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cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

For example, Joel Konkn mention that Orange County in 1970 had a kids under 18  population of 34 percent in 1970. Santa Ana is 30 percent and Anaheim is 27 percent. In some south County places like Ladera Ranch is was 31 percent. Ladera Ranch is mainly white. The county aveage is 24 percent. I bet in 2025 Santa Ana drops to 25 or even lower and Anaheim to the level of 21 percent kids which will be the county average and some well to do areas that like kids like Ladera Ranch will be at least at 25 like Santa Ana. And I bet that even if Mexicans are legalized that birth rates will continue to drop, Mexicans have less money and  to succeeded they will changed to at least the replacement level birth rate to moved up in California..

cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

Also, you are incorrect since a recent study of Brazil shows that have birthrates have continue to dropped, Brazil will losed population by 2042, your data is dated. Also, birth rates  were actuallyl lower at the turn of the 20th century than during the baby boom period of the 1940s and 1950's, The average in 1920 was 3 kids versus 3.7 kids in 1957 among white OC  whites. In fact Santa Ana even has lower birth rates than whites in Anaheim around 1960.

cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

Well, In Mexico births have dropped from 6 to 2.35 and rural areas are the highest. In both Santa Ana and Anaheim Mexicans come from these rural areas but the recent study shows downward birrh rates in La and OC for foreign born Mexican women. If Brazil is a model then in 2030 Santa Ana would have less kids than the white south county. Soap Operas in Brazil have brought  rates down to 1.8 below replacement. Mexicans in the OC are becoming less Catholic and more protestant or secular. Trends in Latin America will bring even Mexico and Mexican immigrants below replacement in the 2020's. At the most Santa Ana will at least dropped to the black level of 2.0 kids. Only some of the Central American countries have birth rates above 3 in Latin America.

Jaborah
Jaborah

I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what's happening inside the Oval Office.

Midnightpromises
Midnightpromises

Perhaps a nation filled with Mexicans would show the world just what they are capable of. Anyone know of any?

BiggusDikkus
BiggusDikkus

Don/Maz/Gr


people swarm to the US..they don't swarm to Mexico.....therefore immigration to the US is much more of a reward.....and hence our immigration reward is more generous.


add that to the fact nearly every American supports a robust legal immigration system (yes even the GOP supports healthy legal immigration)....and you realize  that opponents to illegal immigration are NOT anti-immigrant.


We cannot have compromise when you scream racist at good decent people. 


The peasants from Mexico streaming into our country with a demand for entitlement need to show this country respect (ie sing 'god bless america' instead of boooooing the US national anthem at soccer games in LA). Do that, and we will all celebrate the great American melting pot.

grvz5247
grvz5247

The pendeja from south carolina should go visit some places like detroit michigan, youngtown ohio, who have so many welfare recipients, drugs running the place. You will not find any imigrants there but you will find crack houses in every corner. Its so bad that you can buy houses for $1,000 !!! No one wants to live there. South Carolina isn't that the state with the highest inbread? I think they had a program on dateline on the high amount of inbreads in south carolina.  

DonAlbertoDoyle
DonAlbertoDoyle

I'm with ya, Mazbook. It's remarkably generous. AND remarkably easy to get a resident visa (though a fair bit of bureaucracy, surprise surprise --luckily, the immigration office was three blocks away from me, so the 14 or 18 trips weren't particularly onerous). Everyone was helpful and welcoming and courteous.  . And as soon as the resident visa is in hand, a foreign national can enroll in Seguridad Nacionale, their universal healthcare system -- you know, that thingie that civilized countries have.

The difference between heading south -- where my biggest waste is paying the $120 for the international health papers for my dogs, when all the guards ever do is coo at them and pet them, never checked the certificates once, and often I'm waved through without even a passport check, just wave the blue book as I drive by -- and crossing north, an absolute nightmare, is truly embarrassing.  For one thing, the lion's share of our interdiction efforts are aimed at pot.  So why aren't there roadblocks and sniffing German shepherds at the borders of Wyoming, Kansas, New Mexico and Utah?  Because the grey market for Colorado weed, which is now priced less than Mexican swag for an ounce of Amsterdam-quality dope, DWARFS the trade in Mexican weed. 

But indeed, civilization starts just south of Piedras Negras.

mazbook
mazbook

First I must respond to Gustavo on the movie "For Greater Glory". You're nearly 100% right, the movie simplifies the Cristiada to the point of nearly being complete fiction. IF you really want the WHOLE STORY, get the eBook, "Gorostieta and the Cristiada", by Richard Grabman. Available at nearly every Internet seller of eBooks (if not all), it tells the real story and the story behind it in a readable, enjoyable way. It's a small book costing only $4.95 (a buck less if you have an Amazon Kindle reader), and I guarantee you will enjoy it.

Then I must disagree with Martin, MÉXICO, with its new immigration law, is "…THE MOST GENEROUS IN THE WORLD REGARDING LEGAL IMMIGRATION." U.S. law, as it now stands, is nowhere near as liberal or generous. México's new law was fully implemented Nov. 9, 2012 and will stand as worldwide model for any country that allows immigration (and  eventual citizenship) at all. NO COMPARISON.

mead0w
mead0w

@BiggusDikkus Don't come here but keep on picking/cooking our food, cleaning our houses/cars/pools/hotel rooms...

royx0051
royx0051

@mazbook

What was this new immigration law ---Mexico has? That you talk about! I have been living in mx here living illegal on many occasions. MX city immigration don’t even have everything document in a system-if they do then they just want money----Mexican immigration-I have been to the airport on numerous occasions where I wasn’t carrying my --what is immigration status receipt? fm!I then had to go over to immigration add prove that I had an existing present in the U.S with in the last 6 month-if no I was to pay 800 dollars and if I could show proof it was180 dollars-this happened to me 3 times not once did they ask why this is a regular occurrence they just wanted me to go to the bank and pay ---so I could then get on my plane??????!!!!!! And so...... I am agin ---currently living illegal in Mexico!

BiggusDikkus
BiggusDikkus

@mead0w well, stop coming here and stop picking etc etc....when we realize the economic need we'll make the decision to increase throughput....

 
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