@sesmithwrites Education push that most adults are not current on pertussis and are the main carriers =yes please
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Dr. David Nunez, family-health medical director of the Orange County Health Care Agency, emphasizes that low vaccination rates put the community at risk for outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases. According to the California Department of Public Health, more than 9,000 cases of pertussis, also known as whooping cough, were reported in California in 2010. (See "Host Bodies" for more information about OC parents in a cluster of South County schools who are choosing to not vaccinate their kids.)
"Providers should not be advocating for delayed vaccines as a matter of practice," Nunez says. "The research shows us that vaccines are safe and that there's no evidence the number or the schedule of vaccines overwhelms the immune system. Many of the vaccine-preventable diseases have the potential to cause severe illness or death for infants."
Sears doesn't see a problem. At least not immediately. "Right now, enough people are vaccinating that the herd immunity of our nation is not being compromised yet," he says.
He continues to be an advocate for parents who want choices, and at the moment, that includes fighting against Assembly Bill 2109, which would require parents to obtain a doctor's signature before they can enroll ther child in public school if they wish to skip one or more vaccines. Authored by Dr. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) and supported by the California Medical Association, the bill was passed by the state House in a majority vote and is currently being discussed by the Senate Health Committee. "We're giving doctors too much power," Sears says. In the next five or 10 years, what else are parents going to need their doctor's permission for? This sets a dangerous precedent." As of press time, the bill is in the Senate.
Sears does emphasize that from a public-health standpoint, vaccinating is "clearly in everyone's best interest." He offers a quote from Star Trek to further the point: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few . . . or the one."
But most parents aren't Spock. Most parents simply want to be protectors.
"You can argue with these parents that the decision they're making to not vaccinate is bad for public health, but most parents are trying to make a medical decision that's best for their baby," Sears says. "I think we're all selfish when making any decision for our own children. I can't fault parents for thinking that way."
This article appeared in print as "The Needle Doctor: OC's Dr. Robert Sears, author of The Vaccine Book, finds the middle ground in America's war on vaccinations."
@sesmithwrites Education push that most adults are not current on pertussis and are the main carriers =yes please
@sesmithwrites Debate maybe, but why are autism link people who are neither doctors nor scientists interviewed for all these articles?
@sesmithwrites the question shouldn't be "Should we vaccinate?" It should be "How do we vaccinate more people?"
The human body was NOT put together so well that "in nature" any more than ONE out of FIVE children survive to breeding age.
80% mortality rate. THAT's "natural".
If vaccines are safe then why are our doctors, nurses and vaccine companies free from liability? What other procedures to they do where they have zero responsibility for the outcome, regardless of their own negligence? If a vaccine kills or harms you or your child, The maximum amount awarded is $250,000, and the money for the fund that covers it is paid for by the people purchasing vaccines via a surcharge. To get any compensation, you have to hire a lawyer to file a "claim" and good luck getting anything, this law is set up to skirt liability. It is frightening and a violation of our tort rights, not to mention an insult that this was ever described as protecting the consumer. It only protects the medical community. The last thing we need is the AMA having more control over what we do to ourselves and our children. I urge everyone to read the Vaccine Protection Act, it changed my mind for good on this topic. The last thing we need is for our state to dictate what we do to our bodies. Read the labels, these vaccines contain cell from human aborted fetuses, monkeys and chickens and they inject into your blood while taking no liability for the outcome. No thanks!
"The current schedule, as recommended by the AAP and CDC, is completely safe and thoroughly studied." Then why does VAERS exist? Sears is making how much profit from promoting choice, partnership in health care..relative to the doctors who have stock in pharm companies that are making how much profit from attempting to vaccinate every child with how many vaccines? I realize to many Americans do not want the responsibility of making their own choice let alone the having to put forth the extra effort to do the research themselves to be able to make an informed choice!
This article is completely irresponsible and misleading. There is no evidence for the safety of the delayed schedule Dr. Bob proposes. He merely preys on the vulnerability of new parents to make significant profit. The current schedule, as recommended by the AAP and CDC, is completely safe and thoroughly studied. I will continue to vaccinate my children according to THAT schedule.
I've just looked at the Cochrane Collaboration on the topic of flu vaccines. I can't find anything to support plasmarules' contention. I did find a comment that there was insufficient data to evaluate the safety of the killed virus vaccine in children under 2, but that's hardly what he's claiming. The same article is discussing how effective the vaccine is. The anti-vaccination crowd will appear any time there is an open discussion like this. It's frustrating hearing the same old tired arguments. I feel for any parent who has to make choices about their child's safety, but it's sad that the misinformation and paranoia gets such a big megaphone.
Lots of comments suggesting that anyone who doesn't want to vaccinate isn't following the science. Well the Cochrane Collaboration is the gold standard of science and they've shown that there is ZERO evidence the flu shot has any effectiveness for those under 2, yet the CDC still says vaccinate at 6 months. They've shown that the vaccine is pointless for healthy adults and doesn't affect transmission or complications but the CDC still says it's the best way not just to prevent getting the flu, but to protect others. So tell me who is really ignoring the vast bulk of science, parents or the CDC/AAP?
I get dirty looks from my daughters doctor even for denying the flu vaccine. I'm sorry, Is that one mandatory for school, NO, so stop trying to push it. The response: You know you are just playing with fire by doing that". Yes, I know, time to switch doctors. While I agree with some of the vaccines, I certainly do not agree with all of them. If I had known some of the things I do today, she would not have gotten half of the vaccines she has. But, I guess it's not too late to start delving into them and making my own choice. Besides, what child likes getting a shot? I don't remember getting nearly this many shots while I was growing up.
Great article. If I'd had a pediatrician like Dr. Sears when my first baby was born, she would still be alive today. Our then-pediatrician said to 'bring your baby down for her shots' we obeyed like lemmings and our daughter died within hours of getting the hepatitis B vaccine at age 5 weeks, a vaccine for a sexually and blood transmitted disease that is given to most newborns today. The coroner found a swollen brain, the classic medical textbook definition of a vaccine adverse reaction. We've gone on to have two more kids who are unvaccinated, healthy and neurologically normal, unlike so many over-vaccinated kids today. After studying the risk of vaccine adverse reactions vs. the risk of diseases and disease complications, I'd have to be a total idiot to vaccinate my kids. I'm not an idiot, I'm a graduate of UC Berkeley Haas Business School and I am a quantitative financial market strategist (Salomon Brothers 1986-1991). Parents, do your homework on the risk of vaccine adverse reactions before you vaccinate. It's your family and your choice, don't be intimidated by government pseudo-scientific propaganda that won't even admit what a vaccine adverse reaction is. http://therefusers.com/about/vaccine-epidemic-how-corporate-greed-biased-science-and-coercive-government-threaten-our-human-rights-our-health-and-our-children/
"Rebecca Estepp, an activist with Talk About Curing Autism, a national organization that offers support and information to families..."
TACA also promotes unproven and potentially dangerous "alternative treatments" for autism. One such "treatment" is MMS, also known as bleach, which is administered as an enema to autistic children. TACA is joined at the hip with Jenny McCarthy.
Sears is a huckster. Too bad the OC Weekly didn't see through him.
@NoLiabiltyForVacs - Doctors, nurses, and companies are not free from liability. NVICP is a no-fault compensation system. It is far easier to win in vaccine court than in civil. The court pays your legal fees, win or lose, and there is no shortage of ambulance chasers ready to take your case. Provided you have one.
And no vaccine is injected straight into the bloodstream. I know that sounds scarier, but most vaccine are injected IM or sub-Q.
You are obviously not concerned with getting your facts straight. No wonder the anti-vaccine movement is marginalized to posting comments on the internet.
@JustSayNo Have you ever actually taken a look at any of the VAERS data? A kid gets vaccinated. Two days later they die in a car accident. It gets reported to VAERS. Sears is making a heck of a lot more money than any family practice/pediatrician is making right now, I can tell you that. Vaccines are not something doctors make any money from. In fact, they LOSE money in some circumstances. It's one thing to take the time to do research on your own about what your doctor recommends for your doctor, but not all 'research' is created equal, and the anti-vax movement is a perfect example of how scientifically illiterate Americans are.
@mellis28 At least the kids are GETTING vaccinated at some phase. Better than never.
@mellis28 How can it be "thoroughly studied" when it's constantly changing to add more vaccines and more boosters? That doesn't sound like a thoroughly thought out statement to me. Have you compared the schedule from 1982 until 2012?
@daniel.weinstein1 Here's an interview with Cochrane's head of vaccines Dr. Tom Jefferson - http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-epidemiologist-tom-jefferson-a-whole-industry-is-waiting-for-a-pandemic-a-637119-2.html
SPIEGEL: For a number of years, as part of the Cochrane Collaboration, you have been systematically evaluating all the studies on immunization against seasonal influenza. How good does it work?
Jefferson: Not particularly good. An influenza vaccine is not working for the majority of influenza-like illnesses because it is only designed to combat influenza viruses. For that reason, the vaccine changes nothing when it comes to the heightened mortality rate during the winter months. And, even in the best of cases, the vaccine only works against influenza viruses to a limited degree. Among other things, there is always the danger that the flu virus in circulation will have changed by the time that the vaccine product is finished with the result that, in the worst case, the vaccine will be totally ineffectual. In the best of cases, the few decent studies that exist show that the vaccine mainly works with healthy young adults. With children and the elderly, it only helps a little, if at all.
SPIEGEL: But aren't those the exact groups that influenza immunization is recommended for?
Jefferson: Indeed. That's one of the contradictions between scientific findings and practice, between evidence and policy.
SPIEGEL: So, what's behind this contradiction?
Jefferson: Of course, that has something to do with the influence of the pharmaceutical industry. But it also has to do with the fact that the importance of influenza is completely overestimated. It has to do with research funds, power, influence and scientific reputations!
SPIEGEL: So, at the moment is it reasonable to keep vaccinating against seasonal influenza?
Jefferson: I can't see any reason for it, but I'm not a decision maker.
@daniel.weinstein1 For adults: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20614424 In the relatively uncommon circumstance of vaccine matching the viral circulating strain and high circulation, 4% of unvaccinated people versus 1% of vaccinated people developed influenza symptoms (risk difference (RD) 3%, 95% confidence interval (CI) 2% to 5%). The corresponding figures for poor vaccine matching were 2% and 1% (RD 1, 95% CI 0% to 3%). These differences were not likely to be due to chance. Vaccination had a modest effect on time off work and had no effect on hospital admissions or complication rates.andAn earlier systematic review of 274 influenza vaccine studies published up to 2007 found industry funded studies were published in more prestigious journals and cited more than other studies independently from methodological quality and size. Studies funded from public sources were significantly less likely to report conclusions favorable to the vaccines. The review showed that reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies.
@daniel.weinstein1 Here you go - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18425905In children under two, the efficacy of inactivated vaccine was similar to placebo.andInfluenza vaccines are efficacious in children older than two but little evidence is available for children under two. ****There was a marked difference between vaccine efficacy and effectiveness.**** No safety comparisons could be carried out, emphasizing the need for standardisation of methods and presentation of vaccine safety data in future studies. It was surprising to find only one study of inactivated vaccine in children under two years, given current recommendations to vaccinate healthy children from six months old in the USA and Canada.
@aflac6981 Which diseases are you comfortable with her contracting and passing on to others in your community? You are already okay with her contracting influenza and passing it on to children who may have chronic conditions like asthma. The Hib vaccine wasn't around when we were children. Would you be okay with your daughter contracting Hib meningitis?Your doctor may be trying to protect your daughter. Perhaps you should ask him why he wants you to get the flu shot. A nice long conversation may change your mind.
@belkin Did the autopsy specifically note the cause of death to be a vaccine reaction?
No one says that vaccinatin is 100% safe. There are always risks, that's life. An analagous situation is do you go down in your airplane that's been disabled and is on fire or do you bail out? Do you think really we would be better off with endemic small pox, a true success story of modern medicine?
@belkin - Mr. Belkin is a hard-core anti-vaccine activist who makes no apologies for his wrong-headed views. His rock band, The Refusers, perform songs with such titles as "Vaccine Gestapo" and "Vaccination Uber Alles." He is the face of the anti-vaccine movement.
Still feel like compromising?
@cattycritic Thanks for reading. I have heard that as well. I do think it's important for doctors to acknowledge concerns.
@xtctopaz - Infant mortality has been estimated at about 40% in modern hunter-gatherer societies. The citations are easily found on Google scholar and elsewhere, xtc.
@xtctopaz I don't know whether the stat quoted is supportable or not (my guess is not) but it's an irrefutable fact that nature is cruel; and were it not for modern medicine we'd be lucky to survive pregnancy, childbirth and infanthood. There's PLENTY of evidence to support that assertion.
FACTUALLY UNTRUE. Look who needs to get his facts straight. A FRACTION of vaccine injuries ever see a dime. You ARE A MORON.
@Lawrencium "no fault" is no liability. The doctors nurses and companies do NOT pay the compensation, it is paid for by every person who buys vaccines, as a surcharge. Who "wins" in vaccine court? Is the lives of your children worth more than $250,000? What if the hospital bill is more than that? What if there is gross negligence and your child is killed? Our bill or rights states that we have the right to tort, this is not the same thing. It is an insult to anyone injured by these vaccines. Your semantics regarding how the vaccine gets into the bloodstream is irrelevant, whether it be by I.V. or by a shot in the butt. It gets into your bloodstream, as does cells of human fetuses, monkeys, chickens, not to mention aluminum and mercury. Your argument is weak.
@Lawrencium ANTI-VAX don't need FACTS.
@Tamale "the anti-vax movement is a perfect example of how scientifically illiterate Americans are." And yet time and again any study on which parents are delaying or skipping vaccines show it's educated & professional parents who are opting out.
@Tamale You're talking about a few anomalies. Nice bit of misdirection.
@Tamale "Sears is making a heck of a lot more money than any family practice/pediatrician is making right now"
Indeed. Sears's alternative schedule calls for twice as many office visits in the first year as the AAP schedule.
@CEOTnLIndustries Have you even read the rest of the comments? Look at the rest and you will see documented studies that prove that the influenza vaccine actually does little to nothing for children and elderly in preventing the flu. Why shoot your kids up with artificial chemicals to have no effect except the harm from the chemicals? There's also been a study that shows unvaccinated kids have significantly LESS allergies, asthma, ADHD, autism, etc. than vaccinated kids. After shooting them up with all those chemicals at such young ages, I wonder why...... So sad. :(
@CEOTnLIndustriesI wonder why the number of people suffering from asthma has doubled since 1980? I wonder why inants to age 4 make up the sharpest increase?The vaccine for Haemophilus influenzae type b was licensed in 1985 and was recommended on the schedule published in 1989. When the schedule was published again in 1994, the hepatitis B vaccine had been added. The hepatitis B vaccine was not new, as it had been licensed in 1981; however, between its licensure and 1990, the vaccine was recommended only for high-risk sub-groups of the population, such as infants of hepatitis B surface antigen-positive mothers, healthcare workers, intravenous drug users, homosexual men, and people with multiple sexual partners. However, immunization of high-risk groups wasn’t stopping transmission of the disease. That’s because about one-third of patients with acute disease were not in identifiable risk groups. The change of recommendation to immunize all infants was the result of these failed attempts to control hepatitis B by only immunizing high-risk groups and to prevent the one-third of cases that occurred in individuals not identified as high risk.
@kbear09090 We're supposed to take Mr. Belkin's word for everything he tells us. That makes him no different than most of the "tens of thousands" of parents who tell "the same story."
No, I do not compromise when it comes to the health and well being of my children...I am also the face of the anti vaccine movement, a mother whose concern for her childrens' health and well being prompted me to do the work and research to make the INFORMED choice not to vaccinate my children as opposed to following the recommendations of those profiting from a) the vaccines themselves and b) the continuous treatment of the myriad diseases caused by compromised immune systems...
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@michellewoo - Most MDs acknowledge concerns, but are frustrated by the amount of bad information out there. How about a story on vax myths?
@NoLiabilityForVacs - Wrong on both counts. Vaccine makers can still be sued in civil court - see Sykes v. Wyeth, for example. Regarding your expert opinion of how vaccines are delivered, your understanding of human anatomy and physiology is weak. Mode of delivery is an important factor for how quickly the body absorbs and reacts to substances. I don't expect you to admit you are wrong, much less to change your belief based on new evidence, but there may be others reading this who are interested in bettering themselves.
@xtctopaz How many of them, though, are actually educated in science, medicine or statistics? When you get to those numbers, I suspect it drops precipitously. A few years ago on Frontline when they covered the vaccine debate, the "very educated" person featured was a PhD in English literature. Her "research" was all done at Google U reading anti-vax sites.
@plasmarules Whether or not they are anomalies, VAERS does not prove causation. In fact, it doesn't even prove that an event happened. VAERS merely proves that someone thinks something happened and reported it. It is a passive reporting system, and not proof of anything at all other than people have access to a computer and think things happened.
Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal Environmental Health Perspectives, Aug 2005. Thomas Burbacher, PhD [University of Washington]. This study demonstrates clearly and unequivocally that ethyl mercury, the kind of mercury found in vaccines, not only ends up in the brain, but leaves double the amount of inorganic mercury as methyl mercury, the kind of mercury found in fish. This work is groundbreaking because little is known about ethyl mercury, and many health authorities have asserted that the mercury found in vaccines is the "safe kind." This study also delivers a strong rebuke of the Institute of Medicine's recommendation in 2004 to no longer pursue the mercury-autism connection. Excerpt: "A recently published IOM review (IOM 2004) appears to have abandoned the earlier recommendation [of studying mercury and autism] as well as back away from the American Academy of Pediatrics goal [of removing mercury from vaccines]. This approach is difficult to understand, given our current limited knowledge of the toxicokinetics and developmental neurotoxicity of thimerosal, a compound that has been (and will continue to be) injected in millions of newborns and infants."
5. Gender-selective toxicity of thimerosal.
Exp Toxicol Pathol. 2009 Mar;61(2):133-6. Epub 2008 Sep 3.
Branch DR, Departments of Medicine and Laboratory Medicine and Pathobiology, University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
A recent report shows a correlation of the historical use of thimerosal in therapeutic immunizations with the subsequent development of autism; however, this association remains controversial. Autism occurs approximately four times more frequently in males compared to females; thus, studies of thimerosal toxicity should take into consideration gender-selective effects. The present study was originally undertaken to determine the maximum tolerated dose (MTD) of thimersosal in male and female CD1 mice. However, during the limited MTD studies, it became apparent that thimerosal has a differential MTD that depends on whether the mouse is male or female. At doses of 38.4-76.8mg/kg using 10% DMSO as diluent, seven of seven male mice compared to zero of seven female mice tested succumbed to thimerosal. Although the thimerosal levels used were very high, as we were originally only trying to determine MTD, it was completely unexpected to observe a difference of the MTD between male and female mice. Thus, our studies, although not directly addressing the controversy surrounding thimerosal and autism, and still preliminary due to small numbers of mice examined, provide, nevertheless, the first report of gender-selective toxicity of thimerosal and indicate that any future studies of thimerosal toxicity should take into consideration gender-specific differences.
@belkin - Although I am a life-long fan of rock music, I do realize that scientific matters are best settled with rigorous, peer-reviewed research, as opposed to power chords and forced rhyme.