Long Beach Offers Collective Punishment

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Erik Sund to Speak on Medpot - Public Welcome! On Tuesday, June 12, The Good Neighbors of North Long Beach will host a breakfast at which Business Relations Manager Erik Sund "will speak about the status of the marijuana ordnance and other business issues," according to an event press release. Because currently Long Beach does not have a medpot ordinance, presumably Sund, who has been at the center of much controversy regarding medical marijuana in Long Beach (such as with his presence at dispensary raids where police used what a judge labeled "strong-arm tactics [...] without a warrant and without exigent circumstances"), will discuss the status of temporary ban exemption that approximately 18 collectives currently enjoy. That exemption ends in August, and shortly the city council is slated to revisit the issue to consider extending said exemption. Members of the general public are invited to attend the breakfast, which will be held at Spires (1935 Dela Amo Blvd., LB 90805). The breakfast begins at 7 a.m., with Sund slated to speak beginning at 7:30 a.m. http://www.lbpost.com/news/2000000447-erik-sund-to-speak-on-medpot

MFG420FORLIFE

Wow..... a lot going on on this issue. Being someone who is directly affected by this situation as a resident of the city of long beach, a patient in the city of long beach and a collective operator in the city of long beach, i am amazed at the amount of negative response to the actions of the few that are brave enough to stand up and challenge the city, its council and Mr. Robert Shannon. Mr. Pappas has done an incredible job in supporting the PATIENTS and TRUE COLLECTIVES best interests in not only long beach or California, but, across this great land of America. This is no longer a city or state issue, it is a national issue that will be decided in the highest of courts that this fine country has to offer.There is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. The city of long beach has chosen the wrong way and now they will have to answer for their actions. I also agree with certain comments on this board concerning collectives that are in it only for financial gain. Soon enough, They will have to answer to a higher authority, be it the federal government, the I.R.S or his or her own conscience. That is just a reality.

Zoth

FBI investigation? I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were, or that there is something to find, between the City Council and some of the City Hall bigwigs, but this seems like a pretty casual comment to drop into the article with no followup. Tell us more!

Nschou

Stay tuned!

leo

lets do it Nick... lets do the whole f..cking village...Operation Broken Arrow in effect!

Bid Ed

@Lbforlife I came from the streets! Anyways... its pointless talking to an idiot who don't know shit! The streets are suppose to make you smarter not dumber like you. Like I said we will see who gets the last laugh.

Lbforlife

Come back to the streets you fucks. They will show you greedy fucks no sympathy nor compassion! I only feel for the true patients. You fucks can all get fucked in prison. We will laugh at your asses!

Lbforlife

Come back to the streets you fucks. They will show you greedy fucks no sympathy nor compassion! I only feel for the true patients. You fucks can all get fucked in prison. We will laugh at your asses!

Lbforlife

Come back to the streets you fucks. They will show you greedy fucks no sympathy nor compassion! I only feel for the true patients. You fucks can all get fucked in prison. We will laugh at your asses!

Devon Rémy

God, what an incestuous situation. It smacks of your classic back-room politics: favors being handed out with a wink and an envelope full of money. Oh, and a little thuggery thrown in for good measure.

Corruption and greed drove this train. And the patients suffer.

Lbforlife

I agree. Greed and corruption on both sides of this equation fucks everything up for the real prop 215 patients. I know of some of these collectives pull in an average of 200 to 500gs a month. Where are the taxes to the city? It's all hidden in cash. That's where. Please very few collectives are not motivated by pure greed.

News Wire

The greedy, for-profit, big $$ retail dispensaries and their paid lobbyists have destroyed the legitimate medical marijuana collectives.

Lbforlife

And where do you think the gangbangers get their weed from to bring back to their hoods.

leo

Gangbangers dont exist. Yiuve been watching too much 80's episodes of Cops.... pure propaganda to segregate and deminish ethnics by Law Enforcement to beef up their pensions and yearly budgets.

And there is no cartel anything in collectives.... cartel produced anything is akin to dirt and trash.

Lbforlife

You right about this, because the cartels wouldn't fuck around with pussies hiding behind patients rights like you. Be real to yourselves, the majority of you motherfuckers are in it for profit. You are not fooling anyone. Hell, greed is in everybody. Fess up to it and move on with your life. What was your passed occupation before you became a wannabe drug dealer Leo?

leo

Peace be with you....

...we gotta have peace and get together.

One more thing...many people may try to start a collective with profits in mind....and youre right there would be nothing wrong with that.

But the truth is that its tough and these collectives are operating at a deficit and end up broke.

Lbforlife

Leo, it's not a myth. I know the flip too. Let it go bro. You are barking up the wrong tree. Peace b with you. And be safe man. Don't listen to these idiots that are going to cause your family harm. Unless you are a fuckin lawyer then you can answer to God or whatever courts you choose to be indicted by. Take care bro. Got other fuckers to go check

Lbforlife

Leo, we can debate this all day. But you and I know. Just be safe out there because they are coming. The appeals will come back after the elections and it's going to be a tweaked out piece of work. I got us going back to patient and a caregiver to grow. We are going backwards bro. 15 years and we just went backwards.

Lbforlife

I am all for a profit Leo. I am just not going to hide behind schemes that will hurt the movement. Collectives and clubs, know alot of owners too. We know the game. Let's not fuck it up for actual patients that really need the shit.

leo

its a myth about greed and profit. 80% of collectives go out of business and shut down just as other main street businesses do.... because they run out of funds.

The others struggle against landlord shakedowns....city shakedowns....hatred....legal fees....fines.....etc.. many collectives throw resources into giving to charity....cleaning up their neighborhoods....donations. on and on it goes.

The medicine comes from a collectives own members and is clean pure. Closed circuit.

Lbforlife

Gangbangers don't exist. You are a fucking tool Leo. You fucking little collective pussy. Bring that shit back to the streets and non of your kind can survive. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. Quit manipulating the true intent of the cCalifornia compassionate act to your own greed.

Lbforlife

Leo, alot of my friends and family were and are still gang members. That being said. I come from the heart. We are not little boys that walk into your collectives for a nickel sack. We want to protect our community. Alot of you do more harm than good for us here.

leo

gangbangers dont exist. It is another nazi propaganda tool. Any poor group of young black....latino....asian men having a chat and wearing sneakers on any free sidewalk in america are considered labeled gangbangers. Groups of family and friends that have grown up together and stick together for companionship and protection have been labeled with monikers.

You watch too much TV sister.

Lbforlife

Leo, you are a wannabe collective tool. Look at Long Beach's West Side, East Side, Downtown and Northside. Really, gangbangers don't exist? Why don't you go stand on the corner of Walnut and 10th or any hood in the LBC and see if gangbangers don't exists. Better yet how about I introduce you to my hood. You prop 215 pussies fucked yourselves up by whining like the bitches that you are. All you motherfuckers will snitch on each other to do less time in a heart beat. February 14 will say it all for the LBC. And when the DEA and LA County Sheriffs come in tO clean your corrupt greedy asses out, you little wannabe drug dealers will feel the wrath of fat prison sentences and when they do shut you wannabe drug dealers down and you head back to the street, guess who will be waiting. All those gangbangers, hustlers, thugs will rape you. You guys had it made, you just didn't realized it. Good luck you pussies!

leo

I'll take all you motherf..kers on... piss ants. Youll never win an argument because being against med marijuana and collectives puts you on the side of evil and wrong.

Lbforlife

You blow alot of smoke Leo. Alot of lies. Bring it and we will show you. Without hiding behind prop 215. Your kind of greed destroyed patient's rights here in Long Beach and the rest of California. You guys had it made here in The LBC. But you don't respect it. You listen to these fucking lawyers that juice you for funds for nothing. I got family that need meds. Thank god they grow their own and not rely on the likes of your kind. Fuck you and all you stand for. You fucked up! And alot of people are pissed!

Lbforlife

Thank the lawyers for filing the Ryan Pack brief. Hell goddam no! Their greedy asses destroyed everything that LB City tried to put in effect. They destroyed the whole CA medicinal marijuana movement in one swoop. GREED is what motivates the majority of these collectives. Boo hoo, they left their high end jobs to help the poor unfortunate cancer patients. Yeah right. We got Morris trying to open a buttload of clubs under the cover of "respected community contributors" then scaring the public with comments like we should keep it out of the hands of "gangbangers". Well, no one here seem to understand the Federal RICO statues., Conspiracy Statues. Don't let these half ass lawyers tell you something different than take your money. When the federal indictments get handed down to you corrupt, greedy hiding behind Prop 215 bitches, you will learn to understand.

leo

The only thing the city of LB tried to impliment was a lousy written ordinance that they thought would open a window of opportunity to crucify and violate the constitutional rights...YOUR rights and mine under the cloke of a one man written discriminatory local piss ass minority voted law. robert Shannon wrote it and our higher courts broke it thank God.

Go to YouTube and type in search.... 562 r

leo

....type in search.... 562 Raid

That is a video one of many with Erik Sund holding coffee and bossing the police around to tear apart lives in Long Beach. Under the supposed compassion of an ordinance allowing collectives.

F..cking scumbag.

Lbforlife

You know who ran up up in there and when you get ran out of town. Others will keep running up in you when you head back to the streets. You little boys can't hide behind prop 215 forever. You fuckin distorted, manipulated and destroyed the movement for the real patients that actually need meds. You fuckers no one gives a rat's ass about. On the streets and in jail. The cops don't even wanna come when you holler for help. So where does that leave us, with a bunch of patients that really need the help. Yeah, thanks Pappas and Leo

leo

Lol Erik Sund and his boys. Thats right.

Lbforlife

And if I know about you 562 pusssies, guess who else has been watching and listening. Yes there is a big brother, better believe it and they are here in town.

Lbforlife

Oh so you are a 562 collective tool? Heard you pussies are on 10th and Cherry now. Humm, how long can you last there without getting "ran up on"? Like the few times you got "ran up on" on Atlantic. Don't patronize me little boy. I ain't no cop. I just like to tell the truth. You guys had it made here compare to every other city in Ca and you hung your dick out to dry. Also, I did"nt mean getting "ran up on" by Erik Sund and his boys. You know what I mean by the that statement. Truth fucking hurts homie.

leo

Fire Erik Sund.Fire Erik sund.Arrest Erik Sund.Arrest Erik Sund.

Mike

Pack vs Long Beach is what f**k the entire movement in CA. A lot of good collectives in many different cities including Long Beach are closing because of the selfishness of Larry Parks and Pappas group. So what "wm97" saying is we should thank Larry Parks for banning dispensaries in LA, Long Beach, San Diego etc...

Thanks a lot a** hole.

Big Ed

@Mike... First off, Pack vs LB put Long Beach in there place with their corrupt ass ordinance to try and monopolize the market. They are the selfish greedy ones...Long Beach City and the collectives that are in bed with them, not the Pappas group. Long Beach City is scared now because the have been exposed so now the want to ban. The Pack decision clearly states that the city can regulate but not charge those ridiculous fees and the stupid ass lottery. People need to read the Pack decision before opening there mouths. Does anyone read these days? Good lord! The ban won't happen since it is going to the Supreme Court and the city doesn't want to risk making anymore bad moves!On that note, thanks Pappas for protecting the patients. We need more people like you who fight for what is right and not just in it to line their pockets.

Serg

Stupid is forever but ignorance can be fixed and one should read before one writes. You should read the whole ruling on Pack Vs. Long Beach before embarrassing yourself again. Serg

Lbforlife

Embarrassing is when you are taking cold showers with a group of men in prison.

leo

...seriously...NOW its another matter if Chief McDonnell desires to bypass the constitution and circumvent Due Process rights of poor weak citizens and utilize his tax payer provided weaponry and soldiers to tear down doors and destroy citizen property and cause innocent blood to be spilled without ever letting a court rule. Such as before in these last two years

leo

You keep on thinking that a city goverment can regulate that which voters desired and enacted by their sheer will...against all odds.

Its like you believing that the city can regulate your free speech rights.

Its like believing that tge city can regulate and seat minorities at the back of city buses.

You give the city too much credit for having all this power that you can already see and witness they dont evidently have....right?

Big Ed

@Lbforlife Like I said...we will see who has the last laugh in the end! ;)

Big Ed

Lbforlife just brings stupidity and ignorance. He really has no clue on compassion! ;)

Lbforlife

They take old ladies to jail too.

Big Ed

@Lbforlife... It doesn't matter, you're a dumb as rocks that doesn't understand. If it applies to DC it will apply through out the nation even if it is a district moron. If it didn't it would be discrimination. We definitely don't need more idiots in LB like yourself! No wonder our city is going to shit!

Lbforlife

We know you re a tool already. Dont lie to the rest of us. It's all greed here folks. No fuckin compassion

Lbforlife

Greedy little boys

Lbforlife

Washington sc is a district you dumb fuck. C u little boys in jail whent they come. Then you will snitching like the bitches you really are. Quit lying to your patients.

Big Ed

@Lbforlife... I bet you the city doesn't pass the ban on the 14! Robert Shannon stated he wasn't going to risk and take the gamble last city counsel because its going to be heard in the CA Supreme Court. You're attention span is that of a fruit fly. I'll bet you money. Put your money where your mouth is buddy!

Big Ed

@Lbforlife... Obviously you don't read because the pack clearly states cities can regulate stupid! Do you realize Washington dc just legalized medical marijuana? So let the Feds do their thing when in the end the will be all washed up like the City of LB and all these other corrupt cities. So go back to school and pay attention...maybe you might learn something this time around.

Serg

Let me quote to you what you have said to me.QUOTE "Embarrassing is when you are taking cold showers with a group of men in prison."QUOTE "No threats here. You don't want to go there. I can assure you that."QUOTE " Keep pushing the wrong buttons and you will go back to that Real Estate market that you raped." QUOTE "C u on da streets Serg. I wouldn't want to b u."I have not said one word to you other than "these comments sound like threats and are wholly inappropriate. "You have me at a complete disadvantage because you know who I am and clearly I do not know who you are. If I were to cross you on a street you have claimed that something bad will happen to me. I would appreciate it if you left me alone and stopped harassing me.

Serg

BullyTheBullies

No threats Serg...you don't want to go there, he just assured you of that. Bipolar ridicule.

QueenLBC

I live in Long Beach an have for nearly all my life. I operated a collective here in my community for people who are legitimately disabled. I paid taxes. I went through the system and what did I get? Raided without a warrant but you know what? I still didn't go to jail.

It's time for people to realize that they are literally hundreds of thousands of people who benefit everyday from medical marijuana. No one asked that you abandon your highly addictive, opiate-based pills, we just want to be able to choose what medicines we take that are recommended by OUR DOCTOR. And how about this: the people of California VOTED for patients to have medical marijuana available to ill Californians. The people have spoken and the country that I live in and love, that act is supreme.

You sound as though you've watched Reefer Madness one too many times. I am ashamed that you call yourself Lbforlife, we clearly don't need citizens of your "caliber" contaminating our city with your archaic views and profound lack of knowledge or compassion.

Why don't you go read what Congress has done for Medical Marijuana Patients in Washington DC and then maybe come back and apologize to all those you are spewing your ignorance too. That is if your reading comprehension skills are at an adequate level, which it appears that they are not.

However, as far as going to jail, let's just wait and see.

BullyTheBullies

I meant MORON I have nothing against Mormons:)

BullyTheBullies

Stopping spitting already! Grow up and agree to disagree. There's plenty of rooms in showers for ignorant threatening mormons such as yourself. Just saying. The guy wasn't even responding to you. And if you're so tough, "I know gangstas" "Homie" Why don't you use YOUR real name?! (Rhetorical I'm sure since you will not give it up will you?) Why is anybody humoring this bleep! bag anyway. Peace.

Lbforlife

Leo, I don't like tv. It's called the one eyed propaganda machine in my family. I take everything I read and see with suspicion and I will have to do my research. My apologies to you bro for being so aggressive. I don't care about city hall. I know they fucked up with that lottery shit. Shannon even fucking told them. What can we do? They move to ban and them boys will come rolling in and fucked everything up. That in turn destroys alot of the true prop 215 supporters. Bro, you and I know they can't do no jail time. So we are willing to sacrifice them for greed?

Lbforlife

Brother, when they hand those indictments to your kind. We are going to see who gets the last laugh. Like I said, we are here for life. Our families resides here. Where do you reside? You come to destroy our community for profit under the guise of prop 215 and you don't think people are paying attention. We will sit here and laugh when the city moves to ban on the 14. C u on da streets Serg. I wouldn't want to b u.

leo

...and i do see 5,6 black/white cars at Krispy Kreme up there on Ximeno alot.

leo

"The Man".... that sounds like a line from the movie "Black Dynamite" now im positive you watch too much TV

Lbforlife

I am not a cop or even sympathize with those fucks at city hall, but you guys promote lies that will caused alot destruction to families and patients that listen to these lies. I apologize for being so aggressive and passionate in what I can see as a total travesty to the cause. They(the man) knows. Do you think they just eat fuckin donuts all day Serg? Really though.

Lbforlife

It's called reality Serg. No threats here. You don't want to go there. I can assure you that. Greed cause this mess. Lawyers lie to make money. You have not been there and probably never will. Fair warning, if the city can't regulate this who do you think is going to clean this up? Read what the DA and Police Chief in Riverside asked the Feds to do for them yesterday. The Garden Grove mayor had open talks with the Feds recently. Read that. So you want to sacrifice as martyrs the honest patients and collectives that actually do help the communities for the greed of the majority? Please Serg, you are a little boy. You boys don't count in the LBC. Keep pushing the wrong buttons and you will go back to that Real Estate market that you raped.

Serg

It sounds as if you may be an affiliated party. If so your comments sound like threats and are wholly inappropriate.

Leo

You stupid son of a bitch Mike.... read Pack before you let crap spew from your mouth.

Collectives and patients everywhere need to be thankful of Pack.

Ryan Pack and Anthony Gayle are very ill patients that were being persecuted and witch hunted by the city of Long Beach.

Long Beach used the disguise of an ordinance to violate the rights of patients and commit attricities against innocents. Eric Sund ... a lowly clerk for the city was anone man Eliott Ness Untouchables gang breaking in doors and hurting people.

Lets be real... Medical Marujuana never met a regulatin or ordinance it liked.

So shut the hell up and read.

Long Beach was no friend to patients and collectives ever.

Not one single collective ever obtained a permit.

Any ordinance anywhere that tries to demean and discriminate placing rules on you that other businesses do not have is a crap law excuse to seat you at the back of the bus.

Leonard

Lbforlife

But the city let you pussies grow without harassing you and you still venture out to buys farms up north to feed your greed. You still purchased from out of town vendors. The city left you(the so called lottery winners) with two years of hustling, free of hassles from raids. They protected you but you still fucked it all up. Ask the city what they got in taxes from you. Is it worth it to them? Don't listen to these fucking lawyers, cause they ain't going to federal prison with you. When the city cannot contain this proliferation of collectives, who the fuck do you think they are going to ask to come in? Your fucking lawsuits against the city will be useless when they separate you from your family by way of prisons. You think before you talk you fuck

leo

...we're gonna get biblical on everyones ass!

leo

No Ban will stand up in court... and it will become Long Beachs Watergate taking the city government apart with a blitz that which has never been seen....

...it will be Pharoah bringing down the plagues upon itself with its own hand.

State compliant beautiful patient collectives will stand and remain forever.

Lbforlife

Like I said, let the city dicide on the 14th. When is banned you are fucked. Go back to the construction job you once had.

Big Ed

@LBforlife You must be a comedian! hahaha what a joke you are. Go back to the rock you came out from under! Just ignorant and dumb like most of them. You have know idea what you are talking about. Its so funny. Least I got a good laugh.

leo

Matt Pappas is a hero and champion for medical marijuana patients everywhere.

Lbforlife

My heroes for compassionate selflessness is not Matt Pappas and "the greedy bunch". Try Buddha, Gandhi, and Martin Luther King. If I was involved in that type of lawsuit, I would be scared to live in this state and city. Food for thought.