Were the Conquistadors the Original Cartels?

[¡Ask a Mexican!!] And why do some Mexicans identify with them?

DEAR MEXICAN: This is the second rant I've felt I had to send to you. I don't know if readers are allowed "seconds," but here it goes: Much has been said about the terrible things happening to the United States and its citizens thanks to the Mexican drug cartels, but what's the difference between the modern-day cartels and the Big Four of the period between 1492 and 1775? I refer you to the kings of England, France, Portugal and Spain who invaded the Americas during that period. The invaders didn't bring cocaine, pot or meth, but they brought various diseases that, if I read history correctly, led to the death of many thousands of native peoples. And, of course, they brought their heavyweight weapon, the one I believe Lenin called the opiate of the masses: religion. Today, many people and our economy are hurt by today's cartels, and I'm not defending them in any way, but it strikes me they are pikers compared to their predecessors, who killed an untold number of native peoples  and stole a continent.

Mexica Tiahui!

DEAR WAB: Sloppy seconds are always welcome here, cabrón! It was Marx who dropped the line about religion, not Lenin (he wrote of religion that it's "a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man"), and the natives were muy religious, but otherwise, your analysis doesn't go far enough. You forgot to mention how, like the cartels, the conquistadors fought over trade routes, killing one another and innocents in the process. How they demanded tribute from villagers and terrorized them with public displays of brutality to keep them in line. How the conquistadors built empires that enriched only themselves and created serfs out of those whom they didn't bribe into submission. The only real difference between the conquistadors and drug cartels is that the former did it in the name of Christ—and even the narcos aren't that pendejo to pull that card.

 

DEAR MEXICAN: Does it make any sense to you that, in some cities in Mexico, there are statues of the Spanish conquistadors? After all, these were the same people who believed they were superior to the Mexicans so they had to force their ways on them, not to mention the slaughtering of thousands of Mexicans, too.

Lies My Maestro Told Me

DEAR WAB: Of course, it does. While the conquistadors raped and murdered countless indigenous folks, they represent order and progress to Mexico's elite, the very people who have the money to erect statues and are more than proud to claim direct ancestry to the barbarians. Witness the furor last year, when the city of Merida in the Yucatan erected a statue of its founder, the conquistador Francisco de Montejo. Even though Montejo laid waste to the Mayans in the 16th Century, and even though the descendants of the vanquished protested loudly, the city's elite erected the statue. And the same controversy happens whenever someone commemorates Juan de Oñate, the conquistador who swung his sword through New Mexico, much to the delight of the Hispanics who claim no Injun blood in their veins and to the horror of everyone else. But it's not just an elite-Mexican thing to side with the cruel—just look at the southern love for the Confederacy.

 
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jgutierrez41
jgutierrez41

Just a couple of comments, Don Tacho is correct in that even Mexicanos don't like to admit they are of Indian-American extraxtion, but if you have brown skin and black hair your probably have an Indian mother some where in your line. I do, I haven't found her but I will.

Also if you really want to know your ansestry get your DNA done and find out for sure insteadof speculating. Mine was Haplogroup I1a....Scandinavian, therefore, I am a descedant of Visagoths, that would be the barbarians that conquered Spain in 408...jsg

Stacey
Stacey

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Johnrose7588
Johnrose7588

Mexico would be better off if it were occupied by guatamalans. At least the national I.Q. would be higher

Don Tacho
Don Tacho

I find it really interesting how people refer to the native people of measoamerica as "Mexicans" when the survivors of these same peoples don't call themselves that. I mean, Mexican es la cruza de indio con EspaƱol; mestizaje, remember? Mexican is the crossover of those cultures. And that's exactly the reason modern day indigenous people call you or me Mexicans or Blancos and exlcude themselves from that term.And as much as I hate what conquistadores did to "our ancestors", remember that those Europeans are as much of your abuelitos as the Indians. So, stop el romanticismo and embrace yourself.

Leqaf
Leqaf

Mexico's average IQ is higher than Guatemala's.

MVZ
MVZ

John,

Following your logic the US would be better if they were occupied by Canadians, no more Republicans or Rush. or even better yet US would be better if they were occupied by the displaced Mexicans, oops never mind they already are.

Alva
Alva

People forget that Mexico was and is an empire where native peoples are under the yoke of centralized oppressive regimes. This was true with the Toltecs, Aztecs and remains true today. So to all the reconquistadors, I say "Down with mexican imperialismo!".

Joejack
Joejack

Right! It just reminds me of the Chicano Studies students who would ponder what the Americas would be like if the Spaniards never arrived to take over, and assumed it would be so much better had they stayed in Spain. And it goes both ways too, just like some are quick to talk shit about the invading Conquistadores, there are some who can't accept or come to terms with the fact that their ancestors also included the "savage" natives. I've known people who talk up their Spanish roots, how they're Basque or whatnot, but wont acknowledge that those roots are intertwined with Mesoamerican roots as well. Sad to deny one aspect of your history because it isn't as appealing or romantic.

 
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