Do Mexicans Hate Puerto Ricans?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And do matanzas only happen in New Mexico?

DEAR MEXICAN: I live in upstate New York (that's any part of the state north of the city, for you West Coasters), and while we have a relatively small Mexican population, we have a large number of Puerto Ricans, especially in the community in which I live. Here's my question: A number of times, I've overheard my Puerto Rican friends accuse one another of being "lazy Mexicans," using the term as a good-humored insult. I'm wondering if on the West Coast, where I expect there are more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans, Mexicans ever accuse one another of being "lazy Puerto Ricans"? I've asked my Puerto Rican friends this question, but they think it's crazy. I'm of Irish heritage, and I was surprised one day to find out that all of the Polish jokes I grew up with were Irish jokes in England. I'm curious if maybe it's the same thing here. Basically, I see my friends as being Latino, and they don't have a problem with that until someone calls them a Mexican. Kind of like someone saying I'm Irish, but accusing me of being Protestant when I'm Catholic.

Son of Erin

DEAR MICK: Ah, another opportunity to trot out my all-time favorite joke. Why aren't there any Puerto Ricans on Star Trek? Because they don't work in the future, either. Silly chiste, but that's the point. As brilliantly put forth by Christie Davies in his examination of ethnic humor, The Mirth of Nations, mere jokes by one ethnic group against another signifies latent hostility toward the joked-upon, but nothing serious. Ethnic insults, on the other hand, suggest a deeper-rooted hatred between the groups. In other words, Mexicans don't really care about Puerto Ricans because we always kick their asses in boxing and aren't as colonized as boricuas, so any tweaking of them is relegated to jokes—and even then, I can't think of a single Puerto Rican joke with roots in Mexico. But Puerto Ricans throwing around slurs such as "lazy Mexicans" show they're as American as they come because while Mexican jokes exist in the American humor realm, bona fide slurs—wetback, chili belly, taco bender, wab and many, many more—are as numerous as beans in a burrito. "The number and nature of nicknames, and particularly derogatory nicknames for particular ethnic groups in America," wrote Davies, "is a reflection of the strengths of the ethnic conflicts in which they have been involved and the kinds of ill-feeling that such conflicts generate." Diós bless America!

 

DEAR MEXICAN: My fiancé and I were debating the other night where the idea of matanzas came from. How did they start? I'm of the belief that they were to provide food for an entire village during long, hard winters and have become a reason to party outside in the middle of winter. He says they are probably a local thing (we're from New Mexico), and other self-respecting Mexicans would never have fiestas like this. Can you clarify?

Muy Confundida

DEAR VERY CONFUSED CHICA: "Self-respect" and "Mexicans" in regards to fiestas go together like "logic" and "Republicans" on America's immigration issues. Your husband is largely right: matanzas, for the rest of us non-New Mexis, usually involve the slaughtering of a pig just before winter to provide the pueblo with hundreds of pounds of lard, meat, blood and all the other bounty our tasty porcine friends provide us. Some scholars also posit matanzas were Hispanic rituals dating back centuries, with the pig the center of the feast: Since the Moorish rulers of the Hispanos' ancestors and the Jews they always despised couldn't eat pig, the feast was a great way for Spaniards and their descendants to smoke out any marranos or moriscos of the pueblo's ranks and into the bonfire. Maybe, but the Mexican always felt matanzas ("killings" en inglés) were always more like the Pacific Northwest tradition of potlatches, at which men would compete with one another to see who could throw the biggest feast and treat others the best. And that, my dear amiga, ain't tied to any other tradition than the eternal quien-es-más-macho ritual of hombres.

 
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justthefacts
justthefacts

Interesting... I never knew where that stereotype of "Lazy Mexicans" Comes from... Every Mexican I knew came here to work his ass off...  I'm in the construction industry... Why are Mexicans always the ones doing all of the labor and landscaping?  Because it's HARD work... They are a rapidly growing country, I think 8th richest in the world last time I checked... They could have given themselves to the US, the way Puerto rico did... But seriously?  Why are the Puerto Ricans so full of pride?  What they did was a lot like a 40 year old who moved back in with his parents, or more accurately, like a 40 year old who wanted to be adopted by a wealthy family because they can't make it on their own, then think that they're big shit because they are "part of that family"  When the US invaded Mexico, at least Mexico put up a fight, had it been Puerto RIco, they would've just bent over and taken it in the ass and become the U.S's bitch... Just saying

acsmith1972
acsmith1972

Mexicans are the LEAST lazy people I've ever had the good fortune to work with. I've never seen a collective group of harder workers, and they know how to pool resources and save money. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just a moron.

Khan
Khan

puerto Rico is better than Mexico at least there's no wet backs or beaners crossing illegally

justthefacts
justthefacts

@Khan Yeah but Puerto rico is a fucking slum and there are a lot of sandniggers there...

RobE
RobE

FWIW, the Mexican-Americans I grew up with in the 1970's near the Santa Ana-City of Orange border hated Puerto Ricans. I 'm talking pure, unadulterated KKK style hatred, not, "Puerto Ricans are so dumb, lazy, etc" kinda joking type of stuff. In my high school, Freddie Prinze was about as popular among the hispanics as bubonic plague. "Who the fuck talks like that?" I heard a lot from the Mexican-Americans at my high school and some even posited that Prinze was a plot by the white man to make hispanics look bad. I personally never really watched his show, but I was really surprised at the level of racism against other Spanish speaking cultures there by local hispanics.

But then again, the hispanics in my old neighborhood were even worse when it came to blacks. George Lincoln Rockwell would have been proud of some of the shit I heard about blacks from the hispanics in Orange County back in the day. So Gustavo is kinda soft shoeing the disaffection between Mexican-Americans and other ethnic groups.

JoanDarque
JoanDarque

I live near several schools, and a daycare center was built directly behind our houses, over strenuous objections of the neighbors. It's six-day-a-week madness, with youth soccer games from 8 a.m. until 6 p.m. on Saturdays. The permit students are largely Hispanic, as are the soccer crowds. We are all curious why they feel compelled to blare their car horns and play ear-deafening and ground-shaking Mexican music at 7 a.m., why the entire family -- often consisting of grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, siblings -- have to walk one child to school, why they block our driveways so we cannot get out to go to our own jobs and, this is the best -- why do they dump their trash -- fast-food wrappers, junk food sacks and filthy, steaming diapers -- on the street and in our yards, completely oblivious to the fact that trash cans are conveniently placed across the street in a park and on the school grounds. And, although they would have to walk only three more steps to avoid trampling our gardens, they throw open the SUV doors (always SUVs) and let their fat children tear through our carefully tended gardens. Oh, and they steal fruit from our trees, when we'd be happy to share, if only they'd have the common decency to ask. Is this just rudeness, or based on some cultural history?

mrtinez666
mrtinez666

Yeah, I like people of all colors, too. Culos and racists (redundant?), not so much.

Torg T. Robot
Torg T. Robot

This would have been a good opportunity to mention the hate that Jennifer Lopez recieved for being cast in the Selena movie. She was born in New York, but her parents are Puerto Rican. I mentioned this to my mom, who was outraged and she said, "Well, Puerto Ricans are half-black!"

At least some Mexicans hate Puerto Ricans, and blacks as well.

justthefacts
justthefacts

@Torg T. Robot You need to get your facts straight... I didn't follow the story much but I know the reason Mexicans (and other latinos were outraged) was because they were creating publicity for the Movie of Selena by auditioning a lot of latin girls to play her in the movie... It got their hopes up and at the end they casted a professional actress... When I watched this in Spanish (which has a huge PR audience) the issue raised was that they casted a professional actress and many wanted to boycott the movie because they got a lot of girls hopes up...

Tehuanaechada
Tehuanaechada

YES WE HATE POLTO LICANS........LOL THEY LIVE IN A NAVY SHIP (ISLAND) AND THEIR BIG FAT NALGAS BELONG TO THE USA.......I CAN BELEIVE HOW EASY THEY SOLD THEIR CULOS TO LOS GRINGOS...........SHAME ON THEM.

BrooklynbornPR
BrooklynbornPR

@Tehuanaechada What are Mexicans so hateful towards Puerto Ricans? Some of the biggest supporters of Amnesty and the dream act are Puerto Rican. Ever heard of Congressman Gutierrez? There is also a Puerto Rican C.E.O. who donated 1Mill for undocumented students to go to College. Yet Mexicans always have something negative to say towards us. Its a shame that Mexicans are doing nothing more than repeating the same tired stereotypes that white people direct towards us. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dtcqaMHV6Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZrDWCLTgM


http://www.hispanicallyyours.com/?p=8586


http://latinojustice.org/briefing_room/press_releases/index5.html






Ray Garcia
Ray Garcia

Very well researched and explained information as usual Mr. Arellano, that is why I always make it a point to read your stuff every week. I also like that you have the last word that keeps those dam racist and haters in check, y que no chinguen con la gente sin nuestro provecho.I also am from New Mexico ( northern) and am familiar with the old world matanza custom. My research also matches yours (the eat pork in public or be identified as a Jew or a Moor) and the macho-man pigfest probably goes back as far as the feast at the slaying of the biggest mastadon to feed the community when most of all the pre-historic humans biggest concern was to stay alive not to find diferences among themselves.My big question though is ( besides, where the hell is Joseph Baca from? No del Norte de mi Nuevo Mejico) is, are matazas still common in Mejico? Maybe a bro Mejicano can let us know.I'd ask my ruca from Mejico but she's a chilanga and don't know much about those kind of things but is the best darn cook in the world. El Rey

Bill T.
Bill T.

Obviously true in the not so distant past. (Charles Bronson as an Apache, for example). I would hope (and believe) that people wouldn't be so ready so accept it today. Curious, I'm not an avid movie goer, can you name more recent examples that I'm not aware of? Please note, I'm really not being challenging here, just wondering if I missed something. Again.

Pepe
Pepe

We're jealous that Puerto Ricans don't have to pronounce their consonants.

Excholo
Excholo

Mexican Americans hate Puerto Ricans because they are all the way sold out compared to Chicanos. Los Gringos will always pick a stinking Boricua over a Chicano for important positions because they know they have no other lingering alliance to another country even though remittance form welfare support lots of people on the Isla! How about nalgona Jenni from the block playing Selena?, just shows how deep this preference exist in Hollywood also!

Mikaskane
Mikaskane

Mexicans are jealous of Boricuas because we are American citizens from birth. AS for kicking our asses, lets see what you can do with me..........

Fred
Fred

Silly Gutstavo, Mexicans hate each other. Witness the choque in Greenfield, CA where the established Mexica clash with the Oaxacans who "don't fit in with the culture" and "keep to themselves".

Sound familiar?

Pepe
Pepe

Fred, are you Mexican? Because if you are you might be on to something. I'm Mexican and I already detest your retarded ass.

Fred
Fred

Haha puto, you hate those who speak the truth! Now get back to work, lavaplato!

Tehuanaechada
Tehuanaechada

fred made a mistake and wrote lavaplato instead of lavaplatos.........you cannot just wash 1 plato o si FLED? LOL

Tehuanaechada
Tehuanaechada

NOW HE GAVE UP HIMSELF........POLTO LICAN FLED NOT FRED JAJAJAJAJAJA WA waa

Pepe
Pepe

That'll do pig, that'll do.Now go back to trying to mount your sister.

Bill T.
Bill T.

I about died laughing on reading your comment, !que chiste!

There's nothing people love to do so much as to hate each other. However there are people who can find it in their hearts for courtesy and mutual respect, at least as their default.

 
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