Why Don't Mexicans Want to Learn English?

[¡Ask a Mexican!] And is Mexico a Tea Party paradise?

DEAR MEXICAN: I can't help thinking of Mexico as a Tea Party paradise. Mexican taxes are very low. There are few regulations, and environmentalists, socialists and liberals are few and far between. There is no Obamacare, and Mexico is the home of Carlos Slim, the world's richest man, a tribute to Mexican-crony capitalism. Apparently, carrying guns and using them is no problem, regardless of the laws, and there is that priceless opportunity of shooting a "bad" guy. Certainly, Mexico would benefit from an infusion of our Tea Party "patriots"! Perhaps Mexico could send a delegation of some of the babes from Estrella TV to a Tea Party convention to convince the Tea Party that Mexico is its true home?

Pan Blanco de Rio Rancho

 

DEAR MEXICAN: Why is it that right-wing Republicans are trying their damnest to turn America into Mexico when they press for laws that make the rich richer, remove regulations, and turn the poor out onto the streets to fend for themselves or die? They are jealous of the wealthy Mexican oligarchs who run that country with no concern for the poor. They would love it if they could torture anyone who disagreed with them, asked to spend their taxes on lazy, unemployed folks or any other "socialist," all in the name of Jesus Christ.

Koch Blocker

 

DEAR GABACHOS: Dual Tea Party-esque interpretations of Mexico—LOVE IT. Both legit, by the way. Pan: Damn straight Mexico is a libertarian paradise, and that portions of the country are government-free, ruled by those who have bullets and money. Koch: Damn straight the GOP establishment wants to turn the United States into Mexico at its worst, a Darwinian wasteland where money rules above all and the government governs solely for the rich. The missing analysis for both of you, however, are the Mexicans themselves: We belong to the Tequila Party.

 

 

DEAR MEXICAN: I'm Mexican and very proud of it! I came to the United States 20 years ago, and the first thing besides getting a job and working very hard was enrolling in GED classes. One of the things that makes me mad is that some people in the same situation as mine don't want to learn English and get better opportunities. Are they huevones or what? I got my education in Mexico, and I also went to college here. I am sick and tired of the stereotypes people give to Mexicans, that we are all cholos and cochinos. I love my culture, but la neta, some people de a tiro la chinga . . . no quieren progresar. ¡Qué se pongan en acción! Learn English!

Baja's Chick

DEAR CHICA: I agree 100 porciento, but don't be so harsh on your paisanos. Immigrants throughout this nation's history have learned English, but not all of them and always to their detriment—and they know this. A 2007 Pew Hispanic Center report found 71 percent of Mexican immigrants surveyed reported they spoke little to no English, the largest proportion of all Latino groups in this country. Sounds like a bola of dummies, but they ain't—a 2006 Pew study found 96 percent of Latino immigrants felt it was important to teach English to their children, a ratio even higher than what gabachos felt. Even more telling, only 2 percent of those immigrants felt it wasn't important for their niños to learn inglés; meanwhile, a disturbing 27 percent of non-Latinos think Mexi kids don't have to learn the language—the better to keep raza down.

 

GOOD MEXICAN OF THE WEEK: You want to join activist circles, angry Mexicans? Look no further than Presente.org, a group probably most famous for getting that pendejo Lou Dobbs (remember him?) off CNN. More info at—where else?—presente.org.

 
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suyog bhobe
suyog bhobe

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leecal
leecal

Ha Ha Ha - Koch Blocker.

Brendon Carr
Brendon Carr

It sure is clever for you people to advance the notion that Tea Party types are against all government, rather than too much government, as we keep stating. Why frame the issue as a stark choice between the suffocating, sclerotic state you prefer and Mad Max-style anarchy with hapless peasants being gunned down in the streets? Why not take us at our word that we prefer a state which guarantees liberty and security to all its citizens, but leaves us to find our own path?

As for the Koch Foundation, I'm curious to know with which of its specific hard-line conservative causes you disagree. Is it: Gay marriage? Drug legalization? Abolition of the PATRIOT Act? Cuts to defense spending? Patronage of the Smithsonian Institution? PBS? The ballet? Cancer research? Clearly these fiends must be stopped.

Explain to us how the Tea Party's antipathy to public sector unions equates to a desire to abolish private sector unions.

baja_al
baja_al

Of the people I've worked with that are Mexican immigrants and don't speak much English, I've noticed a common thread among them- a fatalistic attitude. I've often heard "I can't learn English because I'm too old" or "I don't have the money/time" and "I didn't even finish school in Mexico, I so I'm obviously not good at learning things." Combine this with the fact that it's possible to lead a "normal" life in much of the U.S. while speaking Spanish only, there isn't much motivation to learn English among this group. If things were like they were for a Polish woman I knew (virtually impossible to find anyone able to help you in Polish) you would see a much greater English fluency among Mexican immigrants.

obbop
obbop

http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/...

Read the articles where the author tells of his years as an ESL instructor and the realities (typically negative, including the lack of assimilation along with the frequent despising of Gringos and USA culture)

TeacherTeacher
TeacherTeacher

I teach English as a Second Language (ESL) and native Spanish speakers make up the largest percentage of students in my class. My students are motivated to learn English so they can be a part of the community. They WANT to communicate with people outside of their immediate family and neighbors. Certainly, not every immigrant will be motivated to learn English, since it is possible to work, attend school and church, and have a social life in a Spanish-speaking area. However, I assure you, the students I see every week are proud and excited to bettering themselves. Why would they immigrate if they simply wanted their lives to remain the same? Keep encouraging those who haven't spent much time learning a different language to do so. Baja's Chick, you're living proof that becoming bilingual is something to aspire to. :)

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Sam
Sam

Sure, sure it's all fine and dandy not to teach your children English. Watch how sad it is in school when they can't and DONT know how to relate to children their age even as young as kindergarten. I've seen it happen. They get held back because they have no flipping idea what the heck the teacher is saying and THAT leads to behavioral issues. Now they are labeled as trouble maker. Thanks mom and dad.

Connie
Connie

My Spanish/German family came to USA from Mexico... had to learn English to gain citizenship... HOWEVER! Calofornia BELONGED to mexid so I think it is a bit arrogant to demand that our people abandon their language and take on that of the conquerers. As to the Tea Part...OMG. What can one say! Connie

higgy10
higgy10

@Connie Were not the conquerers Spanish?  Who came to south america and scrued the Incas, myans ets and became MEXICANS?  Get your facts together.

together
together

The "conquest" was hundreds of years ago who cares about that anymore, your living in the past if you think there is still a score to settle or if you need revenge. Its not arrogant to want people to speak the language of this country, you don't have to "abandon" Spanish either. BTW my family is also Spanish/German. : )

Holly Garza
Holly Garza

I personally know many different Latino families and yes there are other "types" of Latinos and immigrants besides Mexicans...... I have noticed that people loose there culture in this great melting pot and sometimes the Only thing some people have left is their language.

Yes, if you live here you SHOULD speak Spanish. America is a Country where English is a majority of the spoken and understood languages here and what happens if your child gets lost? English is a language to be learned. It's a must. For your own personal gain, safety, financial stability and peace of mind.

NO, if you live here you do not HAVE to speak it in your conversations with your peers, familía y paisas.

I'm so sick and tired of self righteous people- who just because they can't speak a different language, feel the need to insult or assume that all Spanish speakers can't speak English.

I speak English sweety, I just don't feel like it when talking to my Latina sisters, friends and family. Se habla con mas sentimíento y sabor en mi propio lenguaje, que no? ;)

Oliviamrios
Oliviamrios like.author.displayName 1 Like

some also have no intention of staying in the United States, they think of their migration as a temporary situation, thus not learning the language.

llm
llm

oops, I meant to write "not being harsh necessarily"

llm
llm

I agree with all the questions submitted, and the answers Gustavo gave them. I love being latina and am an immigrant but I also have to be honest....we are not doing good in education in general. We cannot make progress if we are not honest so it's not being. This is a great post Gustavo

together
together

You are absolutely right we have to accept that our culture as of now is defective at least in my point of view.

Vince Gomez
Vince Gomez

No socialists in Mexico?? What do they all come here because at least half of the Mexicans I know are Che worshipers... just sayin'

Alinde
Alinde

Let me begin--I am a retiree living in Mexico, who has had a LOT of trouble learning Spanish! I could go on for chapters about this, but will not. Recently, however, I did find the following article, which confirmed my suspicion that some of us, even the "educated" folks, might have special difficulties.

I would not doubt that many very intelligent Mexican immigrants to the USA suffer as I do, AND as did my German great-grandparents and Czech grandparents!

http://es-learningsupport.ism-...

Stilt21
Stilt21

to pan blanco de rio ranchothis comment you made sounds quite like anyone in the u.s. who knows little or nothing about mexico.taxes are not especially low, there are more regulations than i care to try to follow, the environmentalists are very active and strong, there are at least four government sponsored health care plans for the population depending on for whom you work, whether you are working, or whether you wish to pay for it yourself. yes there is carlos slim, but even he has been forced at times to bend to the will of others in his businesses. his standing as the rich guy has been an off and on battle with bill gates among others. the u.s. has plenty of really wealthy guys , who have not built anything as slim has, they have just taken the money and run., sort of woody allen style.in mexico the middle class is expanding as quickly as the middle class in the u.s. is disappearing.it is not all bread and circuses here, but in the last 20 + years the changes have been mighty. there is that drug problem, but that is clearly bought and paid for by the u.s. drug users who pay billions into mexico fo their drugs, and allow the mexican cartels to buy their arms from texas using that money from the u.s.. we are financing both ends of the drug war. the whole thing in mexico would collapse the day all the drugs were made to be legal. the money tree would just dry up.

together
together

the thing that kind of set me of was that he thinks environmentalism is not as prevalent in mexico than it is here. According to Wikipedia a Gallop poll showed that "Latin America leads in belief that temperature changes are a result of human activities" which seems to be true since the weird american non-sense talk that says that Green = Gay or environmentalism is a scam or what ever doesn't exist in mexico, so no one calls you a fag if you recycle LOL

Guest
Guest

Keep in mind that a lot of the people who come here have very little schooling. It's easy to learn when you've gone to college in Mexico, not so much when you didn't even finish middle school.

 
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