Steele Smith: Prophet of Pot?

C3 Patient Association's head fancies himself a truth-teller in OC's medicinal-marijuana communtiy. And because of that, he just might be its most hated member

Steele Smith: Prophet of Pot?

The C3 Patient Association is located on the first floor of a gray office building on an access road in an industrial area of Garden Grove. A few tidy plants and a small American flag decorate the doorstep. Inside, behind the welcome desk manned by two young employees and the vault—a locked, antiseptic, humidor-type room with shelves of cannabis indica, sativa and hybrids—there's a hallway with a display case full of glass pipes and other smoking paraphernalia. Beyond that is an office, where, seated behind a small desk, is a 6-foot-7-inch man with a baby face and a booming voice.

With his short-sleeved polo shirt tucked into a pair of factory-washed jeans, Steele Smith bears no resemblance to the stereotypical red-eyed, tie-dyed, longhaired marijuana grower—he looks much more like a cop or a car salesman. But as the owner and operator of Orange County's second-oldest medical-marijuana collective, Smith has seen more than his fair share of such types as well as even-more-marginal characters, many of whom have sat with him in this room, trying to pretend they were legitimate players in the medical-cannabis trade.

"As a collective owner, you see a lot of vendors coming into your shop, trying to sell their medicine," Smith says. "When you sit down with them, you can glean a lot from them about who they are, where they come from and what kind of operation they have . . . Now, I can't say I know specifically if this one guy is a Mexican cartel guy, but I can say that he's got gang tattoos, he can bring me 100 pounds of brick medicine, and Mexican medicine is always bricked. You can draw A to Z."

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Brick marijuana is cheap, outdoor weed grown in Mexico, then stuffed into bales compressed into dense bricks so that smuggling them across the border, either in a gas tank or on the back of a mule, becomes more efficient. "They come in our door and take a knife and cut a piece of it," Smith says. "And you look at the material, and it's completely patted down because that bale may have sat in a warehouse in Mexico for a month before it came north."

This kind of marijuana, explains Smith, doesn't begin to compete with the high-quality cannabis that currently lines the shelves of cannabis collectives in California and 14 other states, as well as the District of Columbia. "The strength is very weak, but the prices are very cheap. Nowadays, it goes into concentrated extracts or edibles, or it's sold under the name 'Train Wreck' or one of the other old-school names."

The fact that cheap Mexican weed is often sold under the name "Train Wreck" is an industry secret Smith says nobody in the marijuana business wants the general public to know. "There is no strain called Train Wreck," he says. "Train Wreck is just what we call marginal weed. Nobody knows what it is."

Then there's Purple Erkle. "Anybody can bring in some red buds with a little color to it and call it Purple Erkle or Jah OG," he says. "Anybody can bring in a dark bud and call it Hindu Kush. You'll never know. It's just a marketing tool."

Another secret, according to Smith: Real marijuana doesn't look anything like what most people expect to see when they walk into their local dispensary. Those tight, dense buds that most stoners associate with the chronic look pretty and will get you high, but they've been shorn of their THC-laden leaves, either by hand-held trimmers or motorized tumblers. Sophisticated pot growers, including the cartels, are increasingly using those cheating tools to manufacture hash, kief, tinctures or edibles, thus potentially doubling their profit. "Nobody wants their customers to know that the hash and kief they're selling you came right from the buds sitting next to them on the same shelf," he says.

As Smith readily acknowledges, there are plenty of folks in the medical-marijuana community who wish he'd shut the hell up—and that's putting it mildly. In fact, Smith could be the most hated person in Orange County's community. Ever since he and his wife, Theresa, founded C3 in the living room of their Fullerton home seven years ago, his relationship with most other local activists and cannabis-club owners has gone from testy to bad to worse to, finally, all but nonexistent. He doesn't mind: In Smith's view, many of his competitors are really crooks.

"A lot of these guys who started these shops are pot dealers from the past," he claims. "So I keep myself isolated. And within that isolation, I feel the security to say that commercial cultivators are stealing your medicine. They're selling you the nut and not the fruit; they're reselling the fruit to you and doubling their margins."

His critics, however, say Smith has an abrasive and self-righteous personality and has done more harm to the medical-marijuana movement than anyone else in the county. "Steele is one of the worst people I've ever been involved with," remarks one prominent activist.

"He's delusional," claims another.

"It's a shame," concludes Kandice Hawes, president of the Orange County chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML). "We don't want to be enemies of anyone, but Steele has repeatedly come into our group and caused problems. We want to work with him, and we want everything to be cool, but he keeps on attacking us, and he's kind of ruined the movement."

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o_hutchens
o_hutchens

I knew this piece of shit when I lived in Anaheim. He was renting a place from me and fucked me out of a lot of money. My wife had just had a baby and this fucker basically took food out of my kids mouth. I hope he gets raped in fucking prison. He is nothing but a fucking con artist. His wife is not innocent she was a part of the whole damn operation and I hope they both rot in prison

Jim Baum
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This guy must be a DEA informant. He runs a "collective alliance" which supposedly gathers information on other collectives to get the inside scoop on them to be reported to authorities. He was raided, put in prison, is now out on probation, and still manages to run a collective, all while he is waiting to be tried for a federal case but remains untouched. How can that possibly be?

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Nick you're a fantastic writer. When I get income will buy your book. Meanwhile look forward to your articles here.

HST of OC, dude.

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Would you like to testify against Steele Smith; Contact...

CHRISTOPHER K. PELHAM (State Bar No. 241068)Assistant United States AttorneyGeneral Crimes Section1400 United States Courthouse312 North Spring StreetLos Angeles, California 90012(213) 894-0610 (phone)(213) 894-0142 (facsimile)

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Santa Ana OfficeRonald ReaganFederal Building411 West Fourth StreetRoom 4070Santa Ana, CA 92701Phone: (714) 338-4550 Fax: (714) 338-4570

Frank Guerrero is Steele's Pretrial Services Officer...

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Im tracie neria and i just got a call from steel smith...he as usual was screaming cussing me out and threating me....sound familar!!!! i told the truth and will stand up to him or anyone else....STEELE IM NOT AFRAID OF YOUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That guy rips off everyone he comes into contact with. hes a thief a liar and a cheat. he stole 7 k from me as a patient/investor.

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Notice the part in the article where it says "Steele Smith bears no resemblance to the stereotypical red-eyed, tie-dyed, longhaired marijuana grower—he looks much more like a cop or a car salesman." Besides the physical appearance, he also is as trustworthy as a cop or car salesman I think all the patients who use his service should be vary cautious.

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Arresting adults for possessing marijuana is as ridiculous as arresting adults for possessing alcohol! Instead of protecting kids from marijuana, the federal marijuana prohibition empowers local drug dealers and the Mexican drug cartels by preventing any form of legal competition to their activities. These laws create an environment of zero legal supply amidst massive and unrelenting demand, which effectively makes our children LESS safe.

The prohibition costs taxpayers $40 billion a year, generates 700,000 marijuana-related arrests every year, diverts $10 billion to the Mexican drug cartels each year, has caused the death of more than 35,000 people in Mexico over just the last four years, and lures drug dealers into our neighborhoods to sell their stinking weed to our children.

We need legal adult marijuana sales in supermarkets, gas stations and pharmacies for exactly the same reason that we need legal alcohol and tobacco sales - to keep unscrupulous black-market criminals out of our neighborhoods and away from our children! Marijuana should be legal to sell to adults everywhere that alcohol and tobacco are sold.

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The number one danger of marijuana is its illegality. More harm results from criminal enforcement and prosecution efforts than any other effect of the drug. The fact that the people who are awaiting trial are colorful is proved by all the police/lawyer shows on TV. We should stop visiting the legal 'plague of Job' on our children under the name of keeping them safe

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I don't know Mr. Smith personally, but I happened to be a guest at the Orange County ASA meeting the night he tried to take over (mentioned in this article). I have never seen such outrageous and unprofessional behavior in a public forum in my life. I witnessed Mr. Smith yelling and screaming threats to ASA members, as an outsider not knowing what I was walking into, it was frightening. No group can operate effectively with such a divisive force in its midst. I have since gone back and become a member of both OC ASA and NORML. While they may have different focuses, their goals are far mutually exclusive. Having both meetings is a time saver for many members who do belong to and attend both. The meetings go far smoother and accomplish far more now.

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Steele, you may not be a drug dealer but you sure have scamed a lot of money from people and you and I know that your grow was infested with bugs and you still sold it to the sick , talk about being honest thats why i have never called you back your a big fraud. you owe morgan hunder grand you took 40 thousand from a 60 year old. Must I go on. You have taken thousands from people and not pay them back.what til the feds bring these people into court,Your own lawyer you will not listen to.You going to be found guilty. You are not for the cause the crop I am talking about came off in 2010 feb remeber that mold and bugs and you still sold that. You never do anthing to me but when you lie and I knoe your lieing I will tell the truth, Just like how you treat your wife you are very disrespectful you treat her very wrong yelling and calling her names . You wanted me to invest with you but I new better. Wish you a trip to the 10 years you have coming stop lieing and get a real job.

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I don't know this guy, but he's right about the keif. It comes from somewhere, eh. (Hint: it's not from magic pixie fairies' wings.)

TheMarijuanaGuy
TheMarijuanaGuy

When did we get the right to mention "medical marijuana" in a federal case?

old skool
old skool

This guy don't know what he is talking about. He may fool his clients into beleiving they are buying trainwreck when he is selling them mexi. Just like a headshop owner sells their customers triple blown glass. I know plenty of legit sources for "trainwreck" strain.

MayhemInTheHood
MayhemInTheHood

As someone who lived in southern Humboldt for quite awhile, and was ingratiated with a few multi-generational marijuana growing families there, his quotes about Trainwreck seem somewhat spurious. I don't doubt some people may try to pass off brick weed as Trainwreck, but I know a thing or two and one thing is for sure: a pure Trainwreck strain is FAR from marginal. Regardless, I get what he's saying...the marketing side of it all is often silly and unfounded, in regards to names, edibles, etc. Also, maybe I've had luck with all the collectives I've visited, but I've never seen a dispensary try to hide the fact that the kief/hash is made from the same weed that's up on the shelf. In fact, it's quite the opposite. He comes off as quite the salesman in that part of the story, disparaging other collectives as crap, while his is the real deal. But hey! He went to USC and law school...people with such educational backgrounds are never found to be guilty of lying or self-aggrandizement, right?

Still, this was a very interesting and fun read. Nick Schou knocks it out of the park, per usual.

Oldlady
Oldlady

Is this the guy the people Steele Ripped off can call to ask about testifying at his trial? Maybe we should ask Mr Guerrero why its ok for steele to run a dispensary while he is on trial for being busted in the past? is he snitching for the Feds?

Henry Lipton
Henry Lipton

This guy has scammed swindled and robbed multiple severly ill patients and investors to suppliment his lifestyle which includes banging strippers and hookers on Beach Blvd. His wife catches him now and then but is too intertwined in his scams to leave him. Hey Tree, try going to Mister Js or that strip club in anaheim to see where your old man is spending the money he scams out of people. he stole 60K from a terminally ill old lady 60 y/o promising to return her investment double so she can leave somethng for her kids and he stole her money. fuckin dirtbag.

Nahto
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I too was there and agree, Mr Smith is out of control. No one should ever listen to him.

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Tmcollins

My take on this well written story is as follows: This guy is a yuppy scammer who is probably bipolar, narcissistic and your run of the mill socialpath. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else, so watch your back if u get involved with anything this jerkoff is involved with cause he will drag u down with him and not have any remorse for doing so. Its all about him! A spoiled child of entitlement who will never grow up! He won't listen to his attorney and he thinks he is going to make a ton of dough by suing everyone. He is a fool and I hope he gets his ass handed to him.

darkquest
darkquest

What you might know is that Morgan would not sell the stuff that Steele had grown, they had a huge argument, Morgan left... Two days later Steele changed the locks. Morgan and Marty both have photos of that moldy bug ridden stuff and will testify to it.

Oldlady
Oldlady

HighmarketingHow do we as patients and investors who have been ripped off by steele getthe opportunity to take the stand? This guy is also an obvious rat and snitch. I meanhes on tril for growing marijuana how the hell canhe be running a pot store without being shut down by the pretrial system of probation? How does that happen? I mean hes got to be dropping dimes on people.

oldskool
oldskool

Most legit growers aren't banging buds on keif screens but they are trimming over them so as not to loose what will naturally fall off in the process. Waste not want not.

darkquest
darkquest

Hi,

Just listed who you need to contact to testify. Frank IS Steele's Pretrial Officer, he you can ask why it is okay...

F Steele!

Best to all,

darkquest

Amy Thompson
Amy Thompson

Henry Lipton Shame on you for dragging his wife into this. She is a smart, good hearted woman and doesn't deserve to be attacked by you.

Henry Lipton
Henry Lipton

I hope this guy serves every single day of the 10 years hes looking at for all the people he swindled using his federal case as a platform to swindle people.

HANK LIPTON714
HANK LIPTON714

DARKQUEST DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH mORGAN? i WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO HIM REGARDING A LAWSUIT IM CONSIDERING FILING AGAINST STELLE SMIT AND WOULD LIKE TO GATHER ALL HIS SCAM VICTIMS TOGETHER FOR ONE SUIT.

darkquest
darkquest

Give Marty a call or Marty goes to ASA meetings, I understand he is in contact with him... Sorry I can't be of more help. Maybe someone from ASA or NORML have his info.

 
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