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Javier's Cantina & Grill Gets Bested

Bested!
In which two food writers decide to check out our readers’ assertion that Javier’s is OC’s best restaurant

We may never know how Javier’s got enough votes to win Best Restaurant on our annual Best of OC Readers’ Poll this year. But Gustavo Arellano couldn’t just sit by and do nothing. Short of demanding a recount, examining the hanging chads and sulking, the man who lives to give Weekly readers the scoop on where to find the best holes-in-the-wall proposed that we go together to experience it for ourselves. This was either going to validate the results, or confirm our worst fears that Javier’s was a tortilla torture chamber.

It must be said that neither of us had been there before, but we knew its reputation as expensive and exclusive—two things that go against the very fiber of Gustavo’s column. Plus, the women of The Real Housewives of Orange County are said to love the place.

But we were going to go in with open minds and give them a fair shake. We’ll call it as we see it, we said, nothing less.

I met Gustavo in front of the restaurant, where the valet was choked with freshly buffed Beemers. Inside, glittery Newport Beach bodies garbed in designer jeans filled the seats. But our eyes were focused less on the people and more on the surroundings, which were palatial. Long sabers, alit with flames, lined the entryway. And the deeper we went into the rabbit hole, the more we realized how big the place was. We passed through a labyrinthine network of fire pits, Pottery Barn furnishings and interior-design opulence. If this was Architectural Digest, my review would end here and proclaim the experience a triumph.

Unfortunately, I have to write about the food. This was a night of combination plates, heavy on Spanish rice and refried beans, meals designed for deep-pocketed guests to reminisce about resort vacations past. But for me, it was a reminder that I’ve had dinners just like this at the usual Tex-Mex spots—most notably, Mexicasa, a cash-only joint in Anaheim that I only mention now because what we paid in tip here could’ve fed a family of four there (not that I’d recommend it).

And on Javier’s refried beans, we were flummoxed: What the heck did Javier’s do to them? Gustavo tasted a heaping forkful and dismissed it. I dissected their weirdness as an academic exercise. They stuck to the fork tines like mashed potatoes, disintegrated in the mouth like paste, and looked purplish like Hawaiian poi. The rice took less time to decipher: The overcooked grains were clumped together where they weren’t mushy.

On the rest of the three-item combo plate, sour cream was piped via star-tip into swirls usually reserved for cake frosting, but its artful appearance is for just that: appearances. Yes, the meat inside the tamale, the enchilada and the taco was fine, but the taco shell was stale even before it arrived, and the enchilada sauce tasted like it came from a jar.

To my surprise, Gustavo, who has been known to chug hot sauce from the bottle, thought the salsa wasn’t horrible. He was less than ecstatic over the ceviche de camarones, though. I’m understating his reaction here because this was actually the dish he ordered to compare with that of his favorite mariscos dive. But it would’ve faltered on its own, with shrimp overcooked to rubber and sluiced with lime juice to a one-noted sourness.

We both liked the queso fundido, a fuming plate of rapidly congealing gooey cheese, olives and chorizo, its spicy, red-tinged grease forming glistening pools. If it weren’t for the barely warmed and less-than-pliant store-bought tortillas, we would’ve lapped it up for the blatant harbinger of heartburn it is.

Gustavo enjoyed his steak picado, though he qualified it with the remark that it takes no genius to cook steak, just good meat. I nodded in agreement as I ate Javier’s mole poblano, a dish consisting of two capably cooked hunks of their “natural” white-meat chicken (as to what they mean by “natural,” your guess is as good as mine). But the dark, watery sauce draped over it conveyed one flavor: salt. Squint as I might, the complexity I’d expected of mole—the cocoa bitterness, the smoky spices—just wasn’t there.

Then we had a margarita each and two desserts—thus maxing our expense budget. (On queso fundido and combo plates? Sadly, yes.) The margarita softened the pain of seeing the Angels lose to the Yankees, and despite the damp-sawdust texture of the corn flakes that covered the outer surface, the deep-fried ice cream and its buñuelo basket was better than the unremarkable flan.

Is Javier’s the best restaurant in OC? Our answer is an unqualified no. But as they say: there’s no accounting for taste. If you like it, you like it. Besides that, the food here seems to come in a distant third to the glitz and the scene. But to those who voted for it, I implore: Read our columns more, will ya? We’ll show you things.

Javier’s Cantina & Grill, 7832 Pacific Coast Hwy., Newport Beach, (949) 494-1239; www.javiers-cantina.com. Dinner for two, $50-$80, food only. Full bar.

 
  • and yes, I'm Mexican. 02/14/2011 8:13:00 PM

    I think Javier's beans are the best! I prefer them to my own mother's beans! In my opinion, their best dish is the "Enchiladas de Camaron" I've been there 20+ times and will continue to go. "William: You're from SanTana, and yet you praise Javier's? Either you're lying or your palate died long ago" - I lived in Santa Ana for a little over a year and used to hit up Tapatio#2, Taquerias Guadalaja, El Toro Market, etc,. What does that have to do with anything? I still prefer Javier's beans and their shrimp enchiladas to any of the offerings from those places (carne asada torta from Tapatio - a close second), - That's the truth, and my palate is alive and well. For those who say you can get the same food for less somewhere else, that's like saying "Why go to party in Vegas when you can drink a six pack of beer, play poker in your garage, and sleep in your own bed?" - Yes, that's true, but the experience will never be the same. A meal should stimulate more senses than just taste - Javier's does that.

  • Rick 11/13/2009 1:50:00 AM

    EDWIN Thanks for the response. I personally don't disagree with your comment on ambiance - I'm the same way, but with most elements of a restaurant, including the food. In other words, food, ambiance, decor, service, etc. are all important but not absolutely critical for me to enjoy a place - it all depends on what I'm going there for and what my expectations are. If I'm with good friends in a fun place and I know the food or service is going to suck, I'm fine - I could eat dog food and still be content. But if I choose to go somewhere primarily for its food, then the food had better damn well be good, and if it's not, I will be a hyper-critical unforgiving SOB about it. Ultimately, this is where the disconnect lies at times - critics don't visit restaurants to have fun - the primary purpose is to critique the food. With that frame of mind, things like ambiance, service, decor, etc. will never, and should never, make up for mediocre food, and as a reader, I don't want you to do anything differently. Food is much less subjective than ambiance, service and decor, and if critics start letting such highly subjective factors influence their reviews, then it renders the reviews worthless. The danger, however, is when critics let their feelings about the food bleed over and slant their description of the restaurant as a whole. By way of example, the following 2 descriptions of Javier's each say the same thing about the food, but leave vastly different impressions about the restaurant: (1) Don't go to Javier's for the food - it's mediocre and too expensive and is clearly not as important to the proprietors as the glitz and the scene. (2) Don't go to Javier's for the food - go for the atmosphere and scene. The food may be mediocre and too expensive for what it is, but so is the beer and food at Angels Stadium, and both the patrons and the proprietors seem to understand that at Javier's it's more about having a good time than it is about the food. You have to ask yourself not just whether your assessment of the food is fair and accurate, but also whether the impression you are giving of the restaurant (whether expressly or in between the lines) is fair and accurate. CHRISTIAN I've never once felt that my two young children weren't welcome. As to strollers, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by a no-stroller policy. Do you mean no strollers anywhere in the restaurant, including for stroller parking, or do you mean no strollers going through the restaurant and at tables? If you mean the former, then your information is wrong - I've almost always brought a stroller and have never had any problems finding someplace inside the restaurant to leave it (folded). If you mean the latter, I have no idea, but I would suggest that it's just common sense that at any restaurant that crowded and busy it's not a good idea to even attempt to do such a thing.

  • jbm 11/13/2009 12:33:00 AM

    Been to Javiers plenty of times, and I have to agree with some of the others. You go for the atmosphere. That's about it. For the prices they charge, you'd think they'd actually use fresh lime juice in the margaritas, but no you have to pay extra for that. If you want incredible real 'gourmet' Mexcian check out the new Rosa Mexicano outpost in LA. (One of the best Mexican restaurants in NYC) Perhaps the Javier owners should take a trip there as well and bring a large notepad

  • Edwin Goei 11/11/2009 5:13:00 AM

    Gustavo, YEP! I'm Indonesian! A cheap, wanna-be hipster Indonesian!

  • Gustavo Arellano 11/11/2009 2:30:00 AM

    LittleMsSassy: Javier's is about as much one of the best Mexican restaurants in Orange County as Barbara Coe is one of its most tolerant citizens. Eliza: McDonald's started as a hole-in-the-wall, too, so what's your point?

  • Eliza 11/11/2009 1:09:00 AM

    Let�s ask these questions� If you want a good steak, where would you go? Would you go to Sizzler and have a steak the size of a hockey puck or would you go to Flemings or Mortons and have a good prime cut fresh piece of meat that you will enjoy? If you want great seafood, where would you? Would you go to Red Lobster and have a shrimp size lobster tail or go to Mastro�s Ocean Club and have a fabulous lobster dinner? It�s the same with Javier's. Yes, you can go to any hole in the wall and have combination plate. But if you want to go somewhere special (like all the places I have mention) to have a nice Carne Asada, Lomo Azteca or Mar y Tierra (Steak & Lobster) with great ambiance, you would go to Javier's. That�s why it received BEST Restaurant. This sounds more to me that it is a little personal. What happened guys? Why are you trying to degrade a restaurant that started from a �Hole in the Wall in Laguna Beach and is growing? Sound very immature to me. GROW UP!!!

  • LittleMsSassy 11/10/2009 9:42:00 PM

    Javiers is by far one of Orange County's Best Mexican Restaurants, sounds like you to have been stuck visiting one too many hole-in-the-wall joints. As for you thinking it's way over priced, have you forgotten you drove out of Anaheim 18.5 miles ago.

  • Dale 11/10/2009 5:54:00 AM

    This review tells me nothing I didn't already know. And that Blackstone guy smells like a shill.

  • Christian 11/10/2009 12:14:00 AM

    You don't expect me to not say anything, do you? I have mixed feelings about Javier. The food . . . well, the food has its ups and downs just like any place does. There's no way anybody could say every item on the menu is horrible. I actually liked their mole sauce the one time I went to their original location. The service . . . the service I've experienced at each of their three locations has usually been great and always at least good. The building . . . the building is certainly pretty amazing and worth checking out if you have an inclination to. The problem is with the overly snooty management who are catering to the Newport Beach elite and don't want anybody but that type of person coming. I have had a number of people come to my own blog and complain that they got to Javier's with their baby only to be told that Javier's has a no-stroller policy. Former customers have also complained about other such problems. The last time I was there (over a year ago) my dining partner hated it and exclaimed, "I'm going to kiss the ground at Gabbi's the next time I'm there." Will I go back to Javier's? I might, but I guess I better do it before I have kids.

  • FabE 11/09/2009 11:20:00 PM

    My FAVORITE spot EVER!!!!! If you haven't been, you gotta go!!!!!

  • christoofat 11/09/2009 6:37:00 PM

    Your review was pretty much spot on. I've been to both locations several times & felt that it was "ok", service was good, but the food is just not worth the $$ . $18 for freekin carnitas ( and a small dry portion at that, at least mine was, both times I had it, at both locations)Obviously Javier's is not about the food, it is about the "scene" (& being seen), and in that aspect, it succeeds. Food-wise, however, meh..

  • Gustavo Arellano 11/09/2009 4:36:00 AM

    Diaz: I didn't know Edwin was an angry Mexican! Edwin: Aren't you Indonesian??? Blackstone: Have I ever claimed anything else? We got enough dishes to last us three separate meals, and they were all horrid. Frankly, Edwin was too kind. Readers can believe someone like you, or the combined decade or so of Orange County restaurant reviews, from El Chavito to Stonehill Tavern, that Edwin and I bring to our critiques.

  • Estrada 11/09/2009 12:24:00 AM

    Mr. Arellano Corralejo... I agree. It's not that good in margaritas but next time try it with 4 Copas Tequila. Really good and smooth. Que pase un buen dia.

  • Wm Blackstone 11/08/2009 11:17:00 AM

    I agree with those whose comments were discerning regarding "best restaurant" as the complete dining experience, not just the food. It has nothing to do with swirling wine, being snobby and elitist, or even attaching "gourmet" to menu items. However, I think writing a review about a restaurant in "take down" style to show how "food critic-y and cool" the writers are after just one visit is facile to say the least. Go for a brunch, a couple of dinners, a drop in for appetizers and drinks -- then you're in a better position to give an overall assessment of the place. And maybe -- just maybe -- the comment about "having a chip on your shoulder" from the get-go is apt, too. So Javier's was voted the Best Restaurant -- did that mean you two went in thinking "we'll prove that wrong"? Were you overly picky and mocking because that's what you think hipsters do? By the way, I did say "wanna-be hipsters", not real ones. I would think real nerds would have been able to give some sharply detailed comments and comparisons, analysis not snide commentary about "Pottery Barn" decor...again that's elitist, snobby fake hipster talk. Not to belabor the point... I enjoy Javier's because it's always a good experience, and as I said the freshness of the ingredients, the way the food is presented, the courteous and friendly wait staff, and the fellow diners make that happen. And I never find myself thinking "I could have gotten this cheaper someplace else" like someone who's more concerned about holding on to their dineros instead of just having a good time, eating good food, and sharing it with someone worth spending time with. Thanks to all who commented though...it says a lot about who you are and what you value in life. Oh, and, Gustavo, lessen up maybe on all the "pendejos" you use eh? -- it really marks you as un pelado.

  • Diaz 11/08/2009 7:16:00 AM

    I really can't tell if you are trying to discourage people from going to Javier's or if you are one of those bitter, angry Mexican's that hate to see other Mexican's do well? Javier's has done well for many different reasons and maybe you went in with such a chip on your shoulder nothing was going to please you. I have been to all of there locations and have always had a great experience with the service and my entrees. If you weren't so cheap maybe you should have tried a steak or the Halibut since you can get "combination" plates anywhere. Live a little you are a food critic. Yes there are beautiful people there and Im sure they all walked right past your table. People are there to eat, drink, laugh and enjoy there surroundings. You my poor angry friend were just taking up air, and a table that Im sure people were waiting to sit at. Stick to Taco Bell it seems to suit you best.

  • Gustavo Arellano 11/08/2009 3:02:00 AM

    Estrada: I had the margarita--with Corralejo, even. Still sucked!

  • estrada 11/08/2009 2:37:00 AM

    I do agree it's in the pricy side but where else are you going to eat a PRIME STEAK with shrimp at that price? Mortons?, Maestros?.... No. You'll be paying $43+ just the stake it's self. Pottery Barn furnishing??? Your funny!!!! Your so use to taquerias and whole in the wall places that when you end up going to a nice restaurant with amazing decor and quality food like Javier's that you feel out of place or it's too overwhelming for you. I agree that you can have the same combination plates, shrimp, and steak at those shitty place's you like to eat but honestly, You are not going to get the same quality as Javier's. Im not saying I go there often but I do go ones a month and Im very satisfied with that place. Im very proud of them because they made it this big and they are MEXICANS. Go to there establishment and you see BEAUTIFUL WOMEN, good looking people, a great ambiance and a beautiful restaurant. Gustavo, let me buy you some Organic Margaritas next time your there. Have a great weekend.

  • Edwin Goei 11/07/2009 11:49:00 PM

    William, Your comments did not have the effects you intended. If you wanted to make a case for Javier's, read Rick's comment for how you should've proceeded. My critique was about their food; but your telling choice of words and proclamation as a loyal client suggests that the place is full of wine-twirling elitists like yourself. Really, you're not doing Javier's any favors here. Also, I think I should be flattered that you've called me a hipster. Because as Gustavo pointed out, we are nerds. I more than Gustavo, since I am bespectacled, have no fashion sense, and identify with all four characters from The Big Bang Theory. So...uh...thanks?! Gustavo, NERDS HO! You forget that I bow to both you and Jonathan Gold at the altar food writing! Philly girl, Always question people who claim to be "in the know"! ;-) Wonginator, I like Taco Rosa and Taleo fine, but the restaurant Gustavo and I couldn't stop chatting about during dinner was SOL Cocina. Now *THAT'S* an upscale Mexican restaurant! It's pretty, glitzy, with a waterfront view, but with food that's mostly worth the expense. brekkie_fan, Yes! Food first! Heartburn second. :-) Rick, Yours was a well-reasoned, well-written argument. Thank you. I use "exclusive" in the loosest sense, like the way Ritz-Carlton is always being described as an "exclusive resort" -- exclusive only to those who can't pay for it, which these days, is a lot of people. I didn't want to use the word "pretentious" because our waiter was nothing but sincere and accommodating. And for me, ambiance is nice, but never required. In Semarang, Indonesia, I once ate soto ayam (curried chicken and rice soup) from a road side stand built out of aluminum siding and bed sheets. I saw a cockroach scurry by my foot during my meal. Still, I have dreams of that wondrous bowl -- truly one of the most fun and best food experiences of my life! P. Ortiz, Agreed! Never trust any place that puts the word "gourmet" in front of stuff. It's just a license to overcharge!

  • P.Ortiz 11/07/2009 12:58:00 PM

    Your review was right on the money. It is funny to see that most of the people that like this place have the sense that if it's expensive and the place looks nice, the food obviously has to taste good. They continue to trick themselves and their taste buds about what can even be considered at least somewhat decent and somewhat edible food. These are the same people that jumped on the wine bandwagon. I have been to Javier's two times. Not of my choosing the second time but, to celebrate a birthday. The second time I made sure to eat before hand and only nibbled at the cheese fondido which was pretty decent. Javier's food is on par with Moreno's or even a place in Arizona called Garcia's. They like to use the word gourmet, and as most of us Mexicans know, there is no such thing as gourmet mexican food. Thank you for a great honest review.

  • Rick 11/07/2009 12:54:00 AM

    I wholeheartedly agree with your conclusion, but love Javier's all the same. First however, do people really think Javier's is expensive and exclusive? As to the cost, yes - it's expensive relative to other mexican restaurants - but it's not expensive on absolute terms. There are dozens upon dozens of other OC restaurants that are significantly more expensive. As to exclusivity, what makes it exclusive? It takes nothing other than patience to get a table, and clearly neither clothing nor class are pre-requisites for dining there. Second, I love their crab enchiladas. I've been going to Javier's regularly for the past 10 years, and while everything else I've tried has been generally mediocre and occasionally good, the crab enchiladas have always been great. IMO, this is the only dish to get at Javier's. Third, even though I don't think Javier's is the best restaurant regardless of how you define that term, you need to take into account that "best restaurant" does not mean "restaurant with best food" to most people. Rather, it's about overall enjoyment, and it only takes a quick look around Javier's to see that everyone is really, really, really, enjoying themselves, food be damned. So maybe it's not everyone else's views that are skewed, but rather yours (and often mine) for being so food-centric that dining out is more about the food than it is having fun.

  • brekkie_fan 11/07/2009 12:11:00 AM

    Definitely best ambiance for the area, if that's what you're looking for. If you want excellent cuisine, just drive to Santa Ana. Readers may be confusing 'best restaurant' with 'best experience'. I'll admit that my surroundings often factor into how I decide to rate a place. However, food comes first.

  • Wonginator 11/06/2009 11:44:00 PM

    Haven't been to Javier's yet, due to the mixed comments I've read about it and the higher than average prices I'm hearing about. I do like some of the upscale Mexican restaurants like Taco Rosa and Taleo Mexican Grill, which I remember Gustavo writing a harsh review initially, but then liked it on a follow up visit. How does Javier's compare to Taco Rosa or Taleo, for those who've been to both?

  • Philly Girl 11/06/2009 8:51:00 PM

    I have gone to Javier's a couple of times. I left unimpressed each time with a much lighter wallet. Not worth it. Period. Thanks for the honest review, guys. I wonder how many of your voters have actually gone to eat there. My money is on the fact that they voted for Javier's to spruce up their "cool" factor. These people are the same ones who would vote for Kings of Leon as their favorite band. Ugh. I am not an authentic ethnic food snob, either. I will eat at Olive Garden, Taco Bell, Old Spaghetti Factory...and I know what I am in for. Totally fine. Generic, but good enough for me. Javier's just has some nerve charging outrageous prices for their food that is generic and mediocre. And the worst part is people jumping on the bandwagon saying it is good. Just to be cool, hip, and "in the know"

  • Gustavo Arellano 11/06/2009 8:33:00 PM

    William: You're from SanTana, and yet you praise Javier's? Either you're lying or your palate died long ago. But, hey: if you want to waste $18 or more on plates that La Chiquita do for five, that's your right! And Edwin just happens to be the best published food critic not named Jonathan Gold in Southern California, so your criticism of him is laughable. Finally, we're NERDS, not hipsters, and definitely not pendejo like you!

  • Wm Blackstone 11/06/2009 8:11:00 PM

    This review just goes to show that wanna-be hipsters -- even those with some hole-in-the-wall experience -- ought not to have the pretensions to authoritatively write about the fine dining experience. You're way out of your league, gentlemen. This was your virgin excursion to Javier's? Ludicrous. I've been to Javier's countless times in the past two years; the service is always impeccable, the food made with fresh ingredients and consummately prepared. Meanwhile you soul-patch rubes write gawkily about the "go-lllllly!" decor like silly little debutantes at their first crepe-paper festooned prom. Stick to the newly-discovered (by you, though they've been around for decades) dives where the frijoles and rice are really cheap and the decor consists of old TVs playing last year's soccer wins. That's your "style" and stay away from where the connoiseurs meet to eat. You put us off our food.

 

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