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Jake 05/29/2010 1:26:00 AM
Stan, did you get your medicine back? If not, you should demand that it is returned to you!
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Norman Lepoff, M.D.,retired 10/14/2009 8:01:00 PM
I am writing this comment to apologize to the deputies of the O.C. Sheriff's Dept. Nobody coerced me or even suggested this other than myself.
I was falsely arrested and prosecuted for crimes I never committed in 2002. I have had a great deal of anger over this, and who wouldn't? However, it was not the fault of the O.C. Sheriff's Dept. As a matter of fact, I was treated with respect and dignity by every deputy that I met during my horrible experience.
It takes a brave and very special type of person to be a police officer.
They deserve our respect! They have mine. We may have differences in opinioins, but that is part of life.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 09/22/2009 2:21:00 AM
I think the best comment is #32.
He is absolutely correct in that this guy should not share his smoke with others. This is a good and valid point. I got very upset hearing of how he was beaten and abused, as I know he is telling the truth having seen what I have seen. There is no reason to beat someone up for smoking outdoors.
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Herbalicious 09/11/2009 10:15:00 PM
I would like to inform everyone that Americans for Safe Access databases all calls they get about law enforcement encounters with legal medical cannabis patients. All patients are encouraged to call them and leave messages for the legal group and they take law enforcement calls Tuesdays & Thursdays 510.251.1856 or toll-free 888.929.4367. Because of limited funding, they can't take on all cases but they do strategically take on cases which they feel will help set precedent for medical cannabis patients. They won a Kha vs. Garden Grove which set precedent for patients getting their medicine back when it has been taken unlawfully. Here's a link to help with return of property:
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/section.php?id=187
I also want to say that anyone can file a complaint against any CA law enforcement officer and those complaints have to be investigated, the complaint stays on an officers record for 5 years which is reviewed a performance reviews, transfers and promotions.
I believe the more complaints medical cannabis patients make in these situations, the less situations will come up. Because it costs the department money to investigate. It could also interfere with the officers getting transferred or promoted. And it could help another patient down the line to prove that certain officers have patterns of abuse with medical cannabis patients.
I have filed numerous complaints against law enforcement, including a Sheriff of a County, which got forwarded to the State Attorney General's office.
There are far more of us than there are of them. Let's stand together and ensure safe access to all patients.
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Rob 09/11/2009 12:38:00 AM
I am not against the use of pot for either medical or recreational useage. I think it should be legalized across the board and that the federal government should mind it's own business if any state wishes to pass laws legalizing pot. However, I see a disturbing trend here in these comments that bothers me a great deal. I totally agree with those commentors who state that our bodies belong to no one and we should have every right to decide what we put in them. But what gives this guy the right expose others against their will in a public setting to what he chooses to put in his body? I think it's extreemly rude, inconsiderate and selfish of him to smoke pot publicly in the presence of others who may not have wanted to have exposure to it. Every individual should have the right to choose what NOT to put in their bodies as well, and this man choose to disrespect those rights when he lit up in a public venue. So before you go crying about your rights being infringed upon please remember to respect the rights of others as well.
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dudeman1961 08/31/2009 8:07:00 AM
So, what happened at the Aug. 8 hearing at the Harbor Justice Center?
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chris 08/20/2009 2:13:00 AM
yeah he got the green team treatment because he couldn't shut his fuckin mouth. hopefully lesson learned.
you have to be an absolute moron to smoke marijuana in public view of an OC sheriff.
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AB390 07/31/2009 3:43:00 AM
Controlling our own bodies is a basic human right. If adults choose to relax with a less toxic substance like marijuana instead of a more toxic one like alcohol, it is not the role of the government to interfere.
Twenty million California voters support legalization of marijuana. If you are one of them, tell your legislators in Sacramento to support Assembly Bill 390. Visit http://yes390.org
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/30/2009 11:44:00 PM
They took Mr. Pasqual down just like they take down prisoners in their custody in jail. If it was in jail it would be followed by a beating, for sure. All you have to do is look at a Deputy the wrong way, or even any way, and a beating is not far away if they are in the mood.
When the OC cops want you, they are going to get you one way or another. This cop knew he was going to arrest Mr. Pasqual, especially when he saw his Cannabis Certificate, as they hate that, so he and his steroid enhanced buddies attacked their victim from the rear utilizing the wrist lock to bring him down and follow through with the assault. They are experts at inflicting severe pain without signs of external injury. They they blame it on "resisting" them or that the victim was combative or some crap like that. There is no excuse for police brutality or abuse of power. My sympaties are with Mr. Pasqual.
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crummy backstabber 07/30/2009 10:32:00 PM
It is legal to resist a false or unlawful arrest. Oh, and cops are a-holes.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/30/2009 2:01:00 AM
I have approximately 4 years of martial arts experience and let me say something about the rear wrist lock. This is an extremely painful hold. Besides the severe pain, the slightest movement in the wrong direction will break the wrist, elbow and even the shoulder. Once you have an opponent in this hold, you have 100% complete control. If you take it any further, as these cops did, it is nothing other than abuse of your defenseless victim. For example, I could control Mike Tyson with this hold alone if I could get him in it. That is how powerful it is. These cops knew Mr. Pasqual was seriously ill when they saw his legal State Certification. To assault a sick man like this is appalling. Assuming he was making a scene, there was no justification for going beyond the wrist lock. To take it beyond the wrist lock is reprehensible, cowardly, brutal, wicked and cruel. I hope Mr. Pasqual's lawyer is reading this as he should have a martial artist testify as an expert witness against the deputies that did this to his client.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/29/2009 10:01:00 PM
Why is it that the ones who are most in favor of cannabis prohibition are the cops, organized crime, criminals, prosecutors and the prison/industrial complex? As it is, they all hate prop 215 or anything that may lessen their abilities and powers to abuse us, harm us, arrest us, brutalize us, steal our property, harm our children, destroy families, etc. They are afraid that they may have to start going after the real criminals, who are actually dangerous, and are afraid they will lose their power over the people. Cannabis is one of the safest substances on this planet and has numerous medical and health benefits. Cannabis should be 100% legal for any adult who wishes to use it in the privacy of his own home.QNK
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/29/2009 9:41:00 PM
Hey Betsy, why don't you just steal it from the evidence room?
Better yet, just steal from some defenseless, disabled, unarmed cannabis patient or high school kid after you and your buddies beat the crap out of him like you have been doing all along?
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Betsy 07/29/2009 9:28:00 AM
Hey Dr Norman, my eyes hurt. Can you write me a scrip for weed?
Please!
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Ralph 07/28/2009 10:53:00 PM
What a sad story. I hope he sues the police and gets an apalogy and his medicine back. The security at the fair is realy overboard. They act like their military or something. Im glad I dont go there anymore, can't wait for the fair to die out and go away.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/28/2009 10:04:00 PM
Case # 02SF0160FA. Date 5/2/2008. Superiour Court, The State of California, Orange County. People Vs Lepoff, Norman J.
Judge Thomas J Borris presiding. "Plea of not guilty entered and case dismissed."
All the false charges filed by the OC Sheriff's Dept and the O.C. D.A's office, to which #13 refers, were dismissed after 6 years of hell!
Anynoe notice that # 13 is quick to make libelous claims behind a fake name? No different than making false charges hiding behind a badge and a gun. They did it to me, they will do it to anyone!!! I believe Mr Pasqual.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/28/2009 8:59:00 PM
I just posted this story on my facebook page for the whole world to see. Here is the comment written below the post!
"Check out this story. They tried to discredit me because I spoke up in favor of the MMJ patient and told the truth about the cowardly thugs in the Orange County Sheriff's Dept. It is obvious which posts are from the cops. This poor guy was brutalized by the thugs in the O.C. police dept. What people in Orange County fail to realize is that they are experts in police brutality! This is how they train in O.C. jail where nobody supervises them. Then then are turned loose on the citizens of O.C.. This is sickening!"
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/28/2009 8:40:00 AM
There was once a time I had respect for the members of the O.C. Sheriff's Dept. This was until I had first hand experience with them. At that time, in 2002, I saw first hand, that the ones I had contact with were no more than cowardly, lying thugs who hid behind their badges and guns. My sympathies are with Mr. Pasquel. I understand what you went through and wish you the best. I think it is great that Nick Schon reported this story and gave me a chance to tell the truth about those who are supposed to protect and to serve. There are two types of justice in O.C.. Real justice and the justice determined by our police. The latter is extremely dangerous to all our society! I wish something could be done about these bruts!
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Reality Sucks 07/28/2009 2:04:00 AM
NOBODY gets hassled for pot at a concert. This loser must have been an asswipe through and through to get noticed by security and then have the Deputies called. Funny how "medical marijuana" doesn't seem to cure "assholism" which most "medical marijuana" users seem to have in addition to their proclaime malady.
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henrygattis 07/28/2009 1:14:00 AM
Sounds to me like he was guilty of failing the attitude test more than anything.
Sometimes you need a little humility to get through they day unscathed. Thats especially true when dealing with the Asshole OCSD.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/27/2009 10:22:00 PM
One last answer to #13's libel. I was never, I repeat never, convicted of drunk driving. My BAC was ZERO!!!
I had a reaction to my anti-depressents that I was taking in accordance to my doctor's directions. I was pulled over and he took me in for a blood test. I tested positive to Celexa and Effexfor only. No alcohol. No illegal drugs. No narcotics. This is all documented at Superior Court, Newport Beach.
You should read the court documents before you write and slander a person, because when you don't you look like a fool as well as a liar.
Now you have proven me to be the honest one here!! Thank you! KMEQ
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/27/2009 10:13:00 PM
I am not an expert in law enforcement, but am an expert in abuse of power and seeing cops act like brutal thugs! I have seen all of this first hand. When I asked the victims why they don't tell anyone of their beatings and torture, the answer was always "who would believe me, I am a criminal?" This is why #13 answered me with libel. Paint me as a criminal and, therefore, I must be a liar. Look at all the court orders # 13 before you write. However, even criminals are humans and should not be beaten and abused by those who are sworn to uphold the law!
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/27/2009 10:06:00 PM
Number 13 is obviously a member of the O.C. Sheriff's department and he just committed libel as all of the charges he accuses me of being guilty have been dropped and a not guilty verdict is on record at the Superior Court of Orange County! I am not guilty of any of his allegations and, as far as my license, it was surrendered due to illness and disability. I have the papers to prove this and I ask # 13 to be man enough to prove his allegations! Otherwise, he should apologize like a man! I have noting to hide!
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Know Em All 07/27/2009 8:24:00 AM
Dr. Norman J. Lepoff (ret.),
You should be an expert in law enforcement as your personal criminal record of spousal abuse, firearms, child abuse, drunk driving are very clear. Additionally, you surrendered your M.D license...Hmmmmmm
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/27/2009 2:20:00 AM
I one saw the O.C. Sheriff department deputies beat a defenseless Mexican guy in jail just because he was Mexican. They held him against the wall and kicked him in the back of his legs with their knees so there would be no serious wounds, just severe pain. There were 4 guards involved. They also torture prisoners by putting them in freezing cold cells with minimal clothing. One prisoner showed me his cracked front teeth which he said cracked from the chills from the freezing cold. He said they make them temp low enough to torture, but not low enough to kill. Then I learned that all members of the O.C. Sheriff's Dept train at the O.C. jail prior to going on the streets! They train in abuse! I am sorry this happened, but it is good to expose the truth about the O.C. Sheriff's Dept and how they abuse prisoners.
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Norman Lepoff, M.D. retired 07/27/2009 1:47:00 AM
This is outrageous. Those deputies involved should be fired, but they won't be as this is standard operating procedure for the Orange County Sheriff's Dept. They do beat and abuse prisoners at their jail. I have seen it. They are brutal and this is how they train before going on the streets. I hope this victim of their abuse sues them and sues them big time!!! These deputies are paid to uphold the law and protect us. They violated their oath to uphold our laws and should be fired just for that. They also should have assault charges files against them.
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Dillhole 07/26/2009 6:40:00 AM
Sounds like he got the typical loop treatment. Why should he get special treatment? Look at your alternative medicine section and the back page, your practically obligated to defend these loser stoners. It is not legal to have weed at a place where drugs are prohibited despite having a medijuana card.
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Oh Realllly 07/24/2009 9:55:00 PM
Resisting, delaying or obstructing is a very broad law. If the po-po asks a question, just answer it and usually that will be the end of it. Nothing good comes from speaking/arguing with the police.
As far as the diplomat greek godess that was driving without her headlights on, they probably had to confirm she had some sort of license. With all of the illegal drivers in California, we don't need another one.
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Justin 07/24/2009 9:19:00 PM
Maybe if the security guard and sheriff had shown Stan a little dignity and respect he could have avoided going to jail. No human being should be locked in a cage and have their reputation ruined for possessing marijuana. The sheriff used resisting to lock Stan in a cage probably just because Stan pissed him off.
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07/24/2009 9:04:00 PM
I don't get it.
How could he be harged with resisting arrest if he had committed no offense for which he could be arrested.
Obviously, the Jackbooted, Nazi-rooted Goon Squad in green uniforms has no concept of the law, which states that even if he didn't have the medical ID card, he was guilty of, at most a cite-and-release misdemeanor (Cal. H&S Code Section 11357 (b).
Then again, if you are a member of a certain green uniform-wearing, Jackbooted,, Nazi-rooted Goon Squad, you figure you can do anything you want.
I hope he sues just for the hell of it.
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mADMAN 07/24/2009 8:10:00 PM
The OC Sheriff's are known for being assholes. The don't like the fact they have to serve at the jails before they can roam the streets (or fairgrounds) looking for those hardened criminals...the dreaded marijuana smoker. I see people smoke pot all the time at concerts and the only people that are getting out of control are the people drinking alcohol.
Get a grip OC Sheriffs, quit being so bullheaded.
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American in Athens 07/24/2009 12:12:00 PM
I think that the police may not always be informed on every law. Take for example, an acquaintance of mine (very sexy Greek Diplomat at the Greek Embassy in Washington). She was visiting Los Angeles, driving her rental car, and forgot her lights on while driving. A police officer pulled her over and really gave her a hard time, even after she showed her Diplomatic ID card. He had trouble beleiving it was true ID, until some sort of Watch Commander showed up to verify her diplomatic status. NOW, all this for driving without lights???
Imagine what they will do for Marijuana smokers if they treat foreign Diplomats like this!
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karen 07/24/2009 8:54:00 AM
I can tell you from 36 yrs. of specializing as an RN in the field of Substance Abuse, the use of medical marijuana is, in many cases, being used to get high, rather than pain control. If this man truly has a back injury from an auto accident, I just bet that he was "under the influence" of alcohol or drugs when it occurred. I see people all the time going from Dr. to Dr., and from hospital to hospital, requesting opiates or medical marijuana for...yep..you guessed it..."severe back pain".
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Kim 07/24/2009 7:48:00 AM
I am supposedly legal to smoke cannabis. I say supposedly because Prop 215 is a very murky and unclear statute. I would never trust the police and particularly the OC Sheriffs Dept. to respect my valid Prop 215 identification. As evidenced in this gentleman's account of what happened to him at the fair, my ID is not worth much except to be able to shop at dispensaries.
Just because the voters of California passed 215 doesn't mean shit if the local law officials still harass and beat up people they believe to be doing illegal acts such as smoking cannabis.
We have to keep pushing this so we don't hear unfortunate and ugly stories like this one.
Make Cannabis Legal. Period.
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Matt Rackham 07/24/2009 6:46:00 AM
Interesting how they can't arrest you if you have a card, but somehow you can then be arrested for resisting arrest. Arrest for what?
M�s loop anyone?
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Buster 07/24/2009 5:32:00 AM
The redneck cops of Orange County constitute its largest, most violent street gang.