Buena Park Pastor Wiley Drake Believes He Still Has a Prayer of Unseating Barack Obama

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We did an investigation and found all kinds of things. In 2005, even before we found out he’d become a presidential candidate, his people did legal research on how and what were the procedures for changing the Constitution of the United States, especially the natural-born-citizen clause. It seems they were anticipating problems. And there are idiosyncrasies with his birth certificate. It’s obviously a forgery. A forensic investigation found his sister Maya’s name on it. They pretty obviously took his sister’s birth certificate and doctored it.

Was she born in Hawaii?

Obama’s birth certificate: legit?
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Obama’s birth certificate: legit?
Drake: Full of it?
Gustavo Arellano
Drake: Full of it?

I don’t know.

Hmmm . . .

We still have two cases and possibly a third one to get their hearing. Our own California case, if we can win, that’s 55 electoral votes that would be withheld. That would take him down to within six or seven of not having enough to be elected anyway. It’d have to go to the Senate to be decided—birth or no birth.

I don’t know if you’ve been following this, but these lawsuits have spurred a lot of comments on the Internet.

I have been.

Some are speculating the Supreme Court justices rejected the Donofrio case because to do otherwise would lead to rioting in inner cities.

Well, we’ve speculated about that as well. I’ve been pretty keenly aware of what’s going on in the Supreme Court. You’ll notice the date when they decided the case would go to conference was on a Friday. Typically, if you go to conference, you take a vote, thumbs up and down, whether to schedule for a hearing. They knew that a lot of people would be discouraged if they made an announcement Friday that they would not take the case. Washington, D.C., is a powder keg. They knew they’d already be at happy hour Friday afternoon and be drunk. Even if a ballgame goes one way or another, they start burning stuff because they are drunk. I think the Supreme Court put the case off until Monday because they knew people would have hangovers and not be drunk.

You’ll notice, typically in a case with any notoriety, a judge will say we turned it down but I think we should have taken it, or another judge will write something and give reasons why they didn’t. Usually, at least two on each side will make this comment. But in this case, they did not even make one comment. They did not even make it public. The clerk of the court posted it on a bulletin board. That’s verification of what I think shows they were fearful. They knew if they announced Friday they took the case, the idiots on that side would start burning stuff, and if they didn’t take it, the idiots on other side would do stupid things. It has created a constitutional crisis.

I’d like to tick off the comments of people on both sides. How do you explain the director of Health and Vital Statistics in Hawaii having verified the birth certificate on record as authentic?

Well, I think she lied. Heh-heh-heh. It’s pretty simple. I’ve tried to make all sorts of excuses, but I think she just made a political lie. She thought she’d get press out of it. She did: She got bad press.

Another little wrinkle that most people are not talking too much about is the documents that go to Hawaii have a requesting box called 7C. It indicates proof for this is foreign, not from Hawaii. They did admit Mr. Obama’s certificate had box 7C checked on it. This just unravels the more you go into it. We also found out when he registered with the Selective Service for the draft, on one of the forms is a round rubber stamp with the postmark on it. This was in 1980, I believe, but the Postal Service says that type of round rubber stamp hadn’t been used since the ’70s. And on that same stamp, he signed it the 30th of the month, and then the stamp on other side of document says it was stamped on the 29th. He could have made a mistake, but it makes you think, hmmm, what is all this about?

We looked at documents in Illinois under the Freedom of Information Act. We got the form from when he registered with the state as an attorney. For one question, he gave his full name, then a few questions down he is asked if he used any other name other than what it says on line one, Barack Hussein Obama. He checked no. Everybody knows he went by Barry Soetoro in Indonesia and even Occidental College in the LA area.

His lawyers have made sure that every place, every school or hospital, has placed a hold on his records. We suspect that if we could get his Occidental records, we would find out, since he admits he was dirt poor at that time, that he probably went in on an international visa where you get a free education. That would show he would have had to prove he was a citizen of Kenya or some other country to get that money, but he has indeed locked those records.

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  • Wiley 07/18/2009 10:50:00 AM

    Call me! 714 865 8132

  • stew 01/06/2009 7:22:00 AM

    I see the separation of church and state was a good idea after all, too bad its not enforced in this example. Obam has been elected, and thats a fact, get used to it, take your biggoted posterior and move along to some other fertile ground and talk amongst yourselves the rest of us arent listening.

  • The Enemy Below 01/02/2009 8:19:00 AM

    Oh Lord!!You Know,Some Clergymen Are Supposed To Be Pillars and Good Shepherds To Their Flock!! However;Some Like Pat Robertson;Fred Phelps;John Hagee;Jesse Jackson and Jeremiah Wright Make You Want To"Get The Flock Out There!!". Let's Add Reverend Wiley Drake To That List!!! Look,Like It or Not,Obama's the President!! Quit Acting Like Dale Gribble from King Of The Hill already!! There Are No Fake Birth Certificates!!Hawaii Had Been a State For Two Years When Obama Was Born and His Mother Was a Natural Born US Citizen,Even If His Father Was Technically a British Citizen at The Time!! Contrary To Popular Beleif,The Little Green Men From Mars That Crashed in Roswell Didn't Hijack a Black Stealth Chopper and Fly Obama and His Mom Out Of the Country To The Secret Headquarters of The Illuminati To Be Raised By Wolves!!! I Think Your Friends Who Keep Kickin'You In The Head With Jackboots Then Blaming It All On Jackbooted Thugs of The FBI/CIA/BATF Need To Quit For a While!! Niot Eht Yvan!!

  • Throwawayurbible 12/26/2008 1:47:00 AM

    Drake has gone insane slowly over the last few year. I pity him and even more, I pity all of the homeless people who live there at his church shelter. He is constantly trying to make himself famous by spewing craziness. He is a racist bigot and needs to be institutionalized. Nobody cares what he says or thinks. He has delusions of grandeur, which is one of the symptoms of the insane. He should go back to Arkansas where he came from, and spew his hatred there, as nobody in California cares to hear it.

  • Christine 12/24/2008 6:25:00 AM

    Wiley Drake is bigoted and a racist. One of the symptoms of a mentally ill person like himself, is that they have no idea that they are in fact ill. He seems to suffer from several kinds of illnesses. One of them being megalomania. This world would be a much better place for everyone to live, if he would be put into a mental hospital. Because then this world would not be forced to listen to his nonsense. If he really wanted to help and do this world some good, he could start by helping all of the homeless people who live there in his church shelter. Instead of spending all of his time trying to get himself notoriety by trying to get involved in politics. If he wanted to be a politician, he should have tried that. But i have a feeling that he would have been laughed right out of politics. Too bad that nobody is believing any of his insanity. And the sooner he is ignored, the better. He is only interested in his own personal issues such as "boycotting Disneyland" and "boycotting McDonalds", and trying to get Barack Obama investigated. What a huge ass Drake has made of himself, the biggest idiot on this planet. Obama is already elected President. Drake is just hugely jealous because a black man has been elected President. And considering that Drake was a member of the KKK while in ARkansas, it's not too surprising that he is protesting Obama's election to President. It should be a concern of the Baptist churches everywhere, that Drake was run out of ARkansas. IT's no doubt that is because he did something illegal there and is now trying to get away with more of his nonsense in California. He needs to shut up and stop spouting off nonsense.

  • Concerned Citizen 12/24/2008 4:54:00 AM

    Drake is in fact a bigot. And he mentions his "Delusions of grandeur", he is definitely delusional. HE does not know when to shut his huge blow hole. I pity him. He should be ignored.

  • Christine 12/24/2008 4:47:00 AM

    Drake is a racist, bigoted, mentally-ill, inbred. He only knows how to spout hot air. He should go back to Arkansas where I came from. Nobody cares what he says. IF he really wanted to do some good in this world, he'd help all of the homeless people who stay at his church shelter. There are people right under his nose who need help, and he isn't helping them. He only cares about getting his face and loud mouth into the news and Internet. He's crazy.

  • Mike 12/22/2008 5:24:00 PM

    This boy qualifies as the biggest nut in Orange County. If it were not so sad it would be funny. This preacher has reached new depths of depravity.

  • The Bolsavik 12/22/2008 1:34:00 PM

    Well, if Obama is an usurper and the Inauguration is illegal, there's no problem with Rick Warrent being there, then, yes?

  • kiai 12/21/2008 9:15:00 AM

    Pastors are know for being crazy, just as all the other nuts out there. Looney preacher.

  • kiai 12/21/2008 9:15:00 AM

    Pastors are know for being crazy, just as all the other nuts out there. Looney preacher.

  • MaineSkeptic 12/20/2008 10:22:00 PM

    More about Joe Farah! Back in comment #1, I made the point that World Net Daily published a piece (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214) attesting to the validity of Obama's Certification of Live Birth. Well, Joe Farah has published a new piece (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84065) in which he lies about the first one! Don't take my word for it, compare them yourself.

  • MaineSkeptic 12/20/2008 7:14:00 PM

    Nancy -- which records do you want him to produce, and to which court? The way our laws work, if a judge feels there is a controversy that requires the production of documents, he or she asks for them, and the people are required to comply. So far, no court has requested anything of Obama beyond what he has already produced. And what he produced was an official State of Hawaii document that says he was born in Honolulu. The complaints I read on various web postings tend to sound like "Show me everything because I'm sure something is fishy." But if the doubters can't convince a judge that something is fishy about the COLB, I don't think they have any grounds for demanding to see more.

  • NANCY 12/20/2008 5:26:00 AM

    THE BIGGEST QUESTION SHOULD BE WHY DON'T HE JUST PRODUCE THE RECORDS TO THE COURT INSTEAD OF FIGHTING IT. IF HE CAN NOT DO THAT THAN HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT AND NEVER WILL BE. SOME OF THE NEWSPAPERS WON'T EVEN LET YOU SAY ANYTHING AGAINST OBAMA. I THINK THIS YEARS ELECTION AS WELL AS LEARNING WHAT MANY OFFICIALS DID IN COVERING FANNY AND FREDDIE HAS REALLY MADE ME START TO TAKE NOTICE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY. THE PEOPLES VOICE SEEMS TO MEAN NOTHING.

  • L 12/20/2008 12:31:00 AM

    These people are NUTS!!! President-Elect Obama... soon to be President Obama whether these CRAZIES agree or not is an AMERICAN CITIZEN. Who cares if his father was or wasn't an American citizen... His father didn't run for President.... President-Elect Obama ran and WON legitimately; And he is an American Citizen. Move On people...... You should spend this much energy worrying about what the last 8 years of Republican Rule has done to this country.... Move On... Get a real Job!!

  • A D Beverly 12/19/2008 11:44:00 PM

    http://KeyCareer.Info The Federal Election Commission allows elected officials to use their war chests to pay legal bills only if the action arise as a result of their tenure in office or campaigns. The allegations against Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II predate the 2008 race for president of the United States -- even if Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II should argue the matter only came to light as a result of the campaign." Normally, if someone isn't sure whether planned used of campaign funds is proper, they ask the Senate Ethics Committee or Federal Election Commission for an opinion. Has Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II received the "necessary approvals at the proper time to ensure that his one million dollar expenditure of campaign funds to avoid producing a ten dollar document was done in strict accordance with all appropriate laws and rules." "There's no requirement that Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II, come to the Federal Elections Commission for a formal advisory opinion. The requirement in the statute is that they not use campaign funds for personal use". In other words, if the use of the money in question is something any regular Joe may have used the money for, that's "personal use." Example: Was there a clear notice placed on the campaign funds to the many law firms stating that "I am Barack Hussien Obama II and I authorized this message"? "It looks bad, even if the senate ethics calls it legal. "It would have been more appropriate for Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II to set up ... a legal defense fund and then ask people to contribute to that and then they're clearly contributing to help Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II, for that purpose." http://KeyCareer.Info

  • A D Beverly 12/19/2008 11:35:00 PM

    http://KeyCareer.Info The Federal Election Commission allows elected officials to use their war chests to pay legal bills only if the action arise as a result of their tenure in office or campaigns. The allegations against Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II predate the 2008 race for president of the United States -- even if Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II should argue the matter only came to light as a result of the campaign." Normally, if someone isn't sure whether planned used of campaign funds is proper, they ask the Senate Ethics Committee or Federal Election Commission for an opinion. Has Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II received the "necessary approvals at the proper time to ensure that his one million dollar expenditure of campaign funds to avoid producing a ten dollar document was done in strict accordance with all appropriate laws and rules." "There's no requirement that Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II, come to the Federal Elections Commission for a formal advisory opinion. The requirement in the statute is that they not use campaign funds for personal use". In other words, if the use of the money in question is something any regular Joe may have used the money for, that's "personal use." Example: Was there a clear notice placed on the campaign funds to the many law firms stating that "I am Barack Hussien Obama II and I authorized this message"? "It looks bad, even if the senate ethics calls it legal. "It would have been more appropriate for Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II to set up ... a legal defense fund and then ask people to contribute to that and then they're clearly contributing to help Mr. Barack Hussien Obama II, for that purpose." http://KeyCareer.Info

  • MaineSkeptic 12/19/2008 11:25:00 PM

    Well, Ted, so far there hasn�t been a single competent legal authority supporting the claim that Obama is ineligible to serve, but that doesn�t convince some of you. A statement from the Department of Justice would just add to the legal unanimity that already exists, so I doubt that it would do anything to sway the die-hards among you.

  • Jo Smith 12/19/2008 8:35:00 PM

    Pr. Drake is also confused about his own sexuality. He has no better things to do. Dear pastor, may serve your Lord instead of spreading lies. "Hate is NOT a family value". God Bless! Josehp

  • Bernadette 12/19/2008 6:12:00 PM

    All I can say about this Pastor is you are a bigot you should not be wearing the cloth of God when all you are doing is teaching hate, division, and unexcepting of all people.The bible teaches love of all wheather you agree or not, the bible teaches understanding of others and love your neighbor. The only thing I see n these new wave christine is hypocrisy, and pastor like him should not be teaching the word of Christ because you are not teaching the truth. Start taxing these chruches that try and give their oppion of hate and unexceppting. I will be one to start pushing for chruches that push their policy on chruches going people to start being taxed. Obama has spoken more like a Christine then anyone eles through this election. What the he-- is wrong with you closed minded pastors??

  • Raymond Chmelik 12/19/2008 11:46:00 AM

    Bigots, like sociopaths are incapable of being cured. The sad part, is that they truly believe the poison that comes out of their minds and their mouths.

  • MaineSkeptic 12/19/2008 5:32:00 AM

    Hey, Linda, I have an idea. Why don't you show us one of those COLBs that says someone was born in Honolulu even though they were born out of the country?

  • MaineSkeptic 12/19/2008 5:00:00 AM

    Linda, when you say "Hawaii officials have NEVER stated that he was born there," you are simply wrong. His Certification of Live Birth carries the official seal of the State of Hawaii, and it clearly states that he was born in Honolulu. Now, if you think the COLB is fake, that means that Obama is guilty of fraud, and you should have no trouble getting a prosecutor to bring criminal charges against him. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.

  • Linda 12/19/2008 3:02:00 AM

    To MainSkeptic Here we go again---The Certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate--period! Obama's mother (private detective) was never in any hospital in Hawaii to even give birth. Even the announcement in the paper is an address that shows he never lived there. COLB's are usually given to foreign born, that have registerd in Hawaii. Hawaii has a long from vaulted copy on file. Hawaii officials have NEVER stated that he was born there. Why hasn't Obama produced the long form and make this go away! He's hiding something and that is for sure----I would say it is box 7c on that form! Under our Constitution I should add that I do not believe that McCain qualifies either. If Obama is foreign born---then you can bet we are going to go after McCain also! If citizens ignore the facts---which means we ignore our Constitution---God help us. Our government has been ignoring our Constitution tooooo long and it's time the people take a stand!

  • svenmagnussen 12/19/2008 2:57:00 AM

    Maya Soetoro-Ng was born Aug. 15, 1970, Jakarta, India. Maya's parents, Stanley Ann Dunham-Obama-Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro divorced in late 1970. Maya, Barack and their mother moved from India back to Hawaii in 1971.

  • MaineSkeptic 12/19/2008 1:23:00 AM

    It seems to me that Pastor Drake is confused about a lot of the facts in this case. To begin with, though, he should ask his friend Joe Farah why World Net Daily published a report stating that Obama's birth certificate is authentic (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214).

 

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