David Di Sabatino Is Drawn to Charismatic Christians. But Nothing Prepared Him for Larry Norman

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Garden Grove filmmaker David Di Sabatino is drawn to charismatic but damaged Christians. But nothing prepared him for Larry Norman

 

Three years ago, David Di Sabatino was understandably excited when Larry Norman, “the Father of Christian Rock Music,” e-mailed him to say the film Frisbee: The Life and Death of a Hippie Preacher was “beautiful.”

“That was a kick to me,” says Di Sabatino, sitting at the kitchen table in his Garden Grove home on a sunny mid-September afternoon—seven months after Norman succumbed to heart failure at age 60. “Here was a guy that I spent a lot of time in my youth thinking had hung the moon.”

Norman and Lonnie Frisbee had been friends, household names among Jesus freaks during the rise of born-again Christianity in the 1970s and, in their own separate (mysterious) ways, charismatic young idols who mesmerized masses before ultimately being shunned by church establishment. Di Sabatino had sent Norman a rough cut of the documentary that did not yet include music. He knew songs from Norman’s early-1970s glory days would be perfect for the Frisbee soundtrack.

But as the veteran musician and newbie filmmaker were in talks about the soundtrack, Di Sabatino says he discovered music from that era belonged not to Norman, but rather the giant EMI label. Perhaps naively, Di Sabatino went on to add some early Norman tracks to the version of Frisbee that hit the festival circuit, confident he’d later secure EMI’s permission. As those who caught the documentary’s premiere at the 2005 Newport Beach Film Festival know, Norman’s catchy music and snidely sung, clever lyrics often moved the onscreen action along better than the film’s narrator.

Based on what until then had been positive dealings with Norman and the musician’s “profound influence” not just on Christian music but also mainstream pop culture, Di Sabatino believed he had found the subject for his next “Bible story,” which is what he calls his films about modern-day believers who exhibit the traits of figures from the Good Book. “I was always enamored with these kinds of people,” he says. “They always asked the larger questions; they were willing to go farther.”

Norman, whom Di Sabatino found “charming,” seemed thrilled about the prospect of a feature-length documentary on his amazing life and music, whose fans include U2, Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, John Mellencamp and Charles Thompson IV/Black Francis/Frank Black.

But Larry’s brother Charles has a different take on the motivation behind the film: He vows that he and his lawyers will be watching it closely.

“Little did I know what I was getting into,” Di Sabatino says. “I’m still mystified by it.”

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One way to pry Di Sabatino away from the editing bay he has built in the garage of his Leave It to Beaver-esque two-story home—the only one on the block whose driveway features a silver mini-van with a Toronto Maple Leafs insignia on the side—is to get him talking about Christianity today.

Sitting at the dinner table with his bubbly stepdaughter drawing pictures at his side, Di Sabatino says he is bothered that too many Christians smugly posture “like they have all the answers.” He believes “life gets harder when you embrace Jesus Christ, not easier; his ideals are hard to live up to.” He was raised in the Pentecostal church in Toronto, where he attended Eastern Pentecostal Bible College, later renamed Master’s College and Seminary. Studying religious history, Di Sabatino wrote a highly respected book about the nondenominational, born-again Christianity that rose to national prominence alongside the flower-power generation of the 1960s and 1970s, The Jesus People: An Annotated Bibliography and General Resource (Greenwood-Heinemann Publishing, 1999).

Among the charismatic believers he discovered was a young hippie preacher with a far-out name: Lonnie Frisbee. Di Sabatino figured he could parlay his Frisbee research into a second book, but when he showed a colleague what he had, he was told, “That’s not a book. That’s a film.” The idea for Frisbee: The Life and Death of a Hippie Preacher was born.

Though Di Sabatino, who’d relocated to Lake Forest, had no training as a filmmaker, he decided to take it on. “It turned out to be one of the hardest things I’ve ever done,” he conceded. The documentary, which cost $40,000 to make, premiered at the 2005 Newport Beach Film Festival to an enthusiastic crowd packed into Lido Theater. Because the Frisbee saga was not just a compelling Bible story, but also a compelling Orange County story, the Weekly wrote up the film a month and a half before the premiere (“The First Jesus Freak,” March 3, 2005) and again days before the festival screening (“Ears On Their Heads But They Don’t Hear,” April 14, 2005).

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  • FailedAngle 11/08/2010 3:37:00 AM

    It's sad that this documentary gets so much attention, while the real story of Larry isn't told. For real facts go here: http://www.failedangle.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SUEj04a7lM

  • lightindarkenedcorners 07/08/2010 9:02:00 AM

    Well the word is out that Stonehill has had a girlfriend for quite a while and that they are engaged to be married. Looks like he's doing to Sandi the same thing he did with Sarah. I guess he gets bored. Time for a mid-life crisis/switcheroo. God forgives all/everyone. However his credibility is goners. And what this reveals about his own potential for deception and role playing destroys his judgments and views into anyone else's life or spirituality. Interesting that this affair parallels his involvement in the "Fallen Angel" film about Larry Norman. While pointing fingers at someone else's alleged sins from 30 some years ago he was sneaking around with another woman. While standing on stage taking questions with David Di Sabatino, he was fast-tracking the divorce, leaving Sandi with no money to even pay her rent. Reminds me of a song I heard once..."oh how the mighty have fallen". Forgive me for sounding judgmental.... I'm sure Randy has arranged his thinking to somehow justify all of this behaviour... I mean, you know how ministers can get so connected to God that they start making up their own rules, getting a little full of themselves? Like Di Sabitino? I for one won't be spending my money for concerts or cd's from this ego-fraudiac, or spending money on his and Di Sabatino's biased bullshit film. There are strange agendas hiding twisted motivations, fueled by an odd impetus towards self-righteousness and whitewashing. Bye bye, Uncle Rand.

  • Believe 04/20/2010 4:00:00 AM

    Grace and forgiveness, yes. Those railing against Di Sabatino need to extend him the same grace, forgiveness, love and mercy they espouse when dealing with Lonnie Frisbee and Larry Norman. Easy to say the words, "Grace, Forgiveness, Love and Mercy"...much harder to apply them to a man like Di Sabatino who you believe is attacking one of your beloved idols. Show me, don't tell me...

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  • Bm7b5 08/24/2009 3:52:00 PM

    I just discovered today that Larry Norman died 18 months ago. I grew up in the 70's listening to the music of Larry Norman and Randy Stonehill. Larry Norman's music was the soundtrack of my youth. I saw him and Randy Stonehill in concert in the SF Bay Area several times. I loved their shows, their music, their comedy, their message. Even now, almost 30 years after graduating High School, my Larry Norman LPs are some of the few LPs I have kept. I don't listen to his music too much anymore, but Larry Norman's music is an important part of my personal history, and I still enjoy listening to some of it at times. In my mid teens, I devoured everything I could find about about Larry Norman. I wanted to be Larry Norman. I once made a trip to the address on the back of one of Larry's albums (1482 De Tracey Street, San Jose) to see what was there. It turned out to be a residential house where Charles Norman lived. I'm not sure who else lived there. Anyway, when I knocked on the door Charles Norman answered. I was with a friend and we told Charles we were Larry Norman fans and were just looking to see what was at the address. Charles let us in and showed us a couple of rooms, one full of Larry Norman posters and merchandise. I felt like a stalker, but Charles was really cool about it. I really struggled with my faith as a teen and Larry's music was the gravity that kept me from slipping Christian orbit. Eventually, though, trying to keep the faith when the whole of my intellect told me it was wrong was tearing me up. One day I just let it go and told God "I don't believe it anymore. If belief is a requirement for salvation, then I'm not saved. But if the blood of Christ covers those who are honest in their disbelief, then let it cover me." A great weight was lifted off my shoulders on that day. After that, I came to evaluate Larry's music differently. I also started to have questions about what I saw as the "iconic" nature of what seemed to be a very carefully crafted public image. A rock star image, but with a kind of plausible deniability. I wondered how the "Larry Norman machine" worked. When I heard he and Randy Stonehill had a breakup, the only information I could find was a quote by Stonehill saying that he didn't want to air dirty laundry in public. And then later I found out about the Daniel Amos rift. I had the sense that something was wrong there. Several years later I was going through some of my father's old 45 records and played a Lloyd Price song called Stagger Lee. When I heard the opening of that song it felt like a punch in the stomach. I knew I had heard the exact same intro on a Larry Norman song. I hurriedly went through my stack of Larry Norman LPs until I found it--Larry Norman had copied it exactly on his "Larry Norman's 97th Nightmare" song. I poured through everything on that album looking for some attribution to Lloyd Price. It wasn't there. Oh my, I thought, this is wrong. This is plagarism! I already knew that Larry had "borrowed" a lot of Dylan imagery and I was uncomfortable with it, and I knew about Larry copying Dylans "false start" and was uncomfortable with that too, but using the Stagger Lee bulldog intro without any mention of where it came from sealed it for me. I concluded Larry Norman was a dishonest person. Years later again, when the internet had come into being and had grown, I occassionally looked up Larry Norman. I found out in the 90's that he was close to dying and was indirectly seeking financial donations. It was then I heard about the "brain damage" that got healed story and I was convinced that even if part of Larry Norman was sincere, there was another significant part that was outright deceitful. I'm a fan of Bruce Springsteen, and when I hear Bruce say he has a large ego and is tremendously vain, I believe him. When he tells us that we (his fans) really have no idea who he is, I believe him. And I appreciate that he acknowledges it. Maybe what I see as Larry Norman's downfall is that he had the vanity, ego, and selfishness that almost all rock stars have, but because of the religious context of his work, he could never acknowledge it. And without the ability to air it, it poisoned him. I don't know--enough arm chair psychology. I do look forward to seeing the documentary, but even given my predisposition to believing Larry Norman wasn't the person he wanted people to think he was, I understand that everything we see and hear is colored through our own lenses and through the lenses of those who present it. In the end, Larry didn't live up to my ideals of him. But I haven't lived up to my own ideals either. Larry, if there is a heaven and we both manage to get in, I'll buy you a beer. Or a whiskey if that's your drink. RIP.

  • Dougie Adam 04/21/2009 4:25:00 AM

    Can we have a follow up interview with David Di Sabatino where he is asked about his own business ethics please. The website where he advertised his Fallen Angel DVDs for sale appears to have been shut down: www.larrynorman.net no longer exists. He began taking paypal orders for the DVD during the first week in February and said on the now defunct website that these would ship on 15th March. He hasn't shipped any of the advance orders yet as we speak (21st April 2009). He has delayed the shipping of the advance orders by 2 months and says they will now ship on 15th May... but he is apparently facing legal action from the Norman family which has resulted in a screening in Nashville being cancelled. He is also refusing to answer any emails about when the DVDs will ship and why he hasn't offered a refund to people who paid in February but is happy to sell the same DVDs to people paying over the counter by cash at the merchandise stall on his tour of US seminaries in March and April. The people who paid in february have to wait til the end of May / start of June (for international orders) to recive something they paid for 4 months earlier while if you go to a screening you can get a copy within seconds of paying.

  • LNFan 03/21/2009 4:33:00 AM

    Just to clarify, I was referring to Satan (rather than DDS or Randy Stonehill) as the original Fallen Angel. Is he not the one who accuses our brother(s) day and night? I see the devil's desire to discredit Larry's ministry as the real driving force behind this film. We should pray for David and Randy that they would not be deceived. Revelation 12:9-11 (New International Version): "The great dragon was hurled down�that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. "

  • 03/20/2009 8:25:00 AM

    It's one thing to watch this movie and derive various conclusions that the filmmaker is on some kind of vendetta. It's quite another thing to watch, as I did, Randy Stonehill get up on stage for the Q&A at the premiere. I don't see anyone accusing him of a vendetta (though he paid a much higher personal cost). And it is Randy's magnificent forgiveness that clinches the ending of the movie. http://jonreid.blogs.com/oneanother/2009/03/fallen-angel-the-outlaw-larry-norman-premiere-review.html

  • LNFan 03/15/2009 9:27:00 PM

    How would you like to have a list of all your sins and shortcomings made public? Not a pleasant thought, eh? Does such a list even exist? It does and it�s a lengthy one. It details all the bad decisions you�ve made, the hateful acts, the unforgiving attitudes, the prejudices, the greed, the lust, the lies; the Bible says that God has recorded them all. But you�ve never seen the list, have you? No and neither has anybody else. That�s because He forgave us our sins and cancelled the record of the charges against us. Knowing full well that the price for our sins was death,� Christ died...once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous to bring you to God.� (1 Peter 3:18 NIV) Christ both, �forgave,� and,�cancelled the written code...that was against us...� (Excerpt from, �the WORD for today,� written by Bob and Debby Gass with Ruth Gass Halliday) However if you REALLY annoy the original Fallen Angel, it is just possible that he will turn your list into such a film as this. Of course he will exaggerate, attribute the darkest possible motives to your actions and also simply make it up. He will be desperate to discredit your ministry. Regard it as a badge of honour. See it as part of counting the cost and being willing to die to yourself and to your reputation. �Only one life, t�will soon be past. Only what�s done for Christ will last.� C.T. Studd

  • Tom Earl 03/11/2009 10:20:00 PM

    It seems that both sides of this story has valid points. I have been a Larry Norman fan since the 70's and looked up to him in my young Christian life. But then I heard the rumblings about Larry and realized that there must be some truth to it all because so many that worked with Larry had their issue with him. I believe that he had many flaws, as do I and it hasn't cast a dark shadow on Larry, his music or the God he loved. I still love his music and love Larry as a brother in the Lord. I know that he struggled as we all do and it won't change my opinion of him because it doesn't change God's opinion of him. However, being a celebrity you are in the spotlight, like it or not. All through history God has shown us the ugly side of the human being. He records the original sin, the first murder and every other sin that his children have committed. He lets us see King David, a man after God's own heart lust after a woman, have her husband killed all for his own desire. He basically exposes us for who we are. It seems that in my Christian life we like to promote a false image to the public around us that we are some sort of angels to the point that the world sees right through us. Do we feel better about Larry's music or who he was as a person if we just hear about the good things in his life? The other thing for me is that Randy Stonehill I think is involved with this movie and I don't believe that Randy is interested in destroying Larry or bringing harm to him or his family. I trust him. Besides, I'm sure if the movie maker is doing this because he has a vendetta I'm sure it will come out in the film. If there is a vendetta then that is not the best motivation for making the film. I've been around long enough to know that this film will just be one persons view of Larry and his life and I must view it that way. I also know that it won't sway my opinion of Larry and it won't take away how God has blessed my life through Larry's life. In all his brokenness I still rejoice and thank God for the time Larry was here with us. And if anyone makes a movie of my life, please show the bad along with the small amount of good in my life.

  • LN fan 03/07/2009 4:17:00 AM

    Of course you're totally entitled to your own opinions, "Ben Around." But....what sort of narcissist can be found, after his own show, chatting about Jesus with the janitor or kneeling out in the street with a policeman? What sort of narcissist spends his time reaching out to the broken, hurting people on the streets? What sort of narcissist visits those in prison...feeds the poor. ..sponsors multiple third world children? What sort of narcissist at the end of his life (despite his own pain and increasing physical frailty and precarious financial situation) continues to give of himself via email, on the phone and financially to comfort and encourage those who are struggling? Doesn't sound that much like a narcissist to me...

  • ben around 03/06/2009 8:49:00 AM

    Well, say what you want, sportsfans, but I knew Larry Norman. We met in 1971. Never have I known a greater narcissist, all business, all ego, all money. The Jesus thing with him seems to be either the thing that kept him from complete insanity, or perhaps just an outgrowth of his insanity. I knew everyone who worked with him at Solid Rock, from Tom Howard to Daniel Amos to Randy Stonehill to Mark Heard, and Mark was the only one who played it close to the vest as far as Larry goes. Larry was a charlatan, a creep, a loser, a wolf in sheep's clothing. As far as I can tell DiSabatino and the aforementioned folk did their best to tell a story about a broken man without completely burying him in the bile he spewed on them. The day he died, I got a lot of emails- "sorry about Larry"... man, I'm glad he's gone.

  • Bruce 02/14/2009 1:26:00 PM

    I fell away from the Lord for a very long time over a divorce, something I'm not proud of. When I came back, I felt like Rip Van Winkle. When did the body of Christ through grace out the window and make it commonplace to question the salvation of christians who fall? "They were probably never really saved!" Sound familiar?There is a scary attitude in the church which borders salvation by works. Even scarier is the strutting peacock attitude of some Christians that they could pull it off.I knew Lonnie Frisbee, and I saw Larry Norman perform several times early in his career. Both had a profound affect on my life. I had a phone conversation with David D. about the Frisbee movie and it turned out we knew some of the same people. That film is a masterpiece!. I haven't seen Fallen Angel, but does David D. imply that Larry was a wolf, not really a Christian? I doubt it. These stories need to be told without the body of Christ freaking out. The world is going to hell in a handbasket while Christians Are busy tripping out over "who's really saved?' NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! That judgemenr belongs to God! If we return to our first love, our love for each other will be as it first was!

  • Solomon 01/15/2009 3:13:00 AM

    "Let's just leave it to him to be the judge and if Larry has hurt any of us, do the Godly thing and forgive coz chances are, you're going to run into him again in the not too distant future." grimtraveller Hate stirs up fights. But love erases all sins by forgiving them. Hatred starts fights, but love pulls a quilt over the bickering. Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins. Solomon, Proverbs

  • The Kneeling Christian 01/15/2009 3:06:00 AM

    "Let's just leave it to him to be the judge and if Larry has hurt any of us, do the Godly thing and forgive coz chances are, you're going to run into him again in the not too distant future." Amen to that, Grimtraveller! "Let this thought burn itself into your memory. The more like Jesus Christ a man becomes, the less he will judge other people. It is an infallible test. Those that are always criticising others have drifted away from Christ. They may still be His but they have lost His Spirit of love. Beloved reader, if you have a criticising nature, allow it to dissect yourself and never your neighbour." c.f. Mark 11:25 "...forgive if you have aught against any that your Father who is in heaven may forgive you."

  • grimtraveller 12/16/2008 4:19:00 AM

    When all is said and done, when we follow Christ, we are expected ( by the Lord, remember) to be different from the world we live in. If the Lord is being allowed to change us from within and bit by bit placing his character within us, we will not engage in the kind of in fighting that has taken place on the comment page. It's not for nothing that God calls us to be forgiving people and equally, not for nothing that he and he alone is the overall judge. If I read the story of the unmerciful servant right, the Lord hates unforgiveness in us. I think I can also safely say that he hates it when we don't love and show mercy to one another. Arguing about the merits or demerits of someone's life is a really dangerous thing because, and I can tell you from first hand experience, any set of actions can be weaved into whatever picture one wants to create. I would not like many of my thoughts to be published !! I wouldn't like my actions to be taken out of context ! And the truth is that whatever David's film shows, it will be out of context. Even where stuff is true. How much weight do other peoples' experiences carry ? The overwhelming majority of us were not there..... For those that think it's just a case of "Larry fans" not wanting their idol painted badly, let me say this; that may be the case for some but I suspect you'll find it's a comparitively tiny number. Truth is, if we're in Christ, exposes of a dead man serve no useful function. Whether Larry was a snake or butterfly is not going to stop me enjoying his music, any more than this film will make me no longer respect David as a writer. It's not a case of sweeping things under the carpet. It's a case of not publicly waging war on each other. There may well be a time and place to talk through these things. The internet is not that place. Can you imagine if every one of our failings (or even worse, someone else's view that a particular action is a failing) was daily plastered all over the internet for everyone surfing to see ? Sheesh! An interesting thing; in the interviews of Larry that I've read, most of the time, he did not paint himself as a wonderful human being. But you know, I'm less worried about those that paint themselves as wonderful (because we know they can't be !! ) than I am by those who glory in their human imperfections and in human imperfection generally. That's one of the reasons I like God so much - he lives in our reality but without the issues we attach. Let's just leave it to him to be the judge and if Larry has hurt any of us, do the Godly thing and forgive coz chances are, you're going to run into him again in the not too distant future.

  • grimtraveller 12/16/2008 4:19:00 AM

    When all is said and done, when we follow Christ, we are expected ( by the Lord, remember) to be different from the world we live in. If the Lord is being allowed to change us from within and bit by bit placing his character within us, we will not engage in the kind of in fighting that has taken place on the comment page. It's not for nothing that God calls us to be forgiving people and equally, not for nothing that he and he alone is the overall judge. If I read the story of the unmerciful servant right, the Lord hates unforgiveness in us. I think I can also safely say that he hates it when we don't love and show mercy to one another. Arguing about the merits or demerits of someone's life is a really dangerous thing because, and I can tell you from first hand experience, any set of actions can be weaved into whatever picture one wants to create. I would not like many of my thoughts to be published !! I wouldn't like my actions to be taken out of context ! And the truth is that whatever David's film shows, it will be out of context. Even where stuff is true. How much weight do other peoples' experiences carry ? The overwhelming majority of us were not there..... For those that think it's just a case of "Larry fans" not wanting their idol painted badly, let me say this; that may be the case for some but I suspect you'll find it's a comparitively tiny number. Truth is, if we're in Christ, exposes of a dead man serve no useful function. Whether Larry was a snake or butterfly is not going to stop me enjoying his music, any more than this film will make me no longer respect David as a writer. It's not a case of sweeping things under the carpet. It's a case of not publicly waging war on each other. There may well be a time and place to talk through these things. The internet is not that place. Can you imagine if every one of our failings (or even worse, someone else's view that a particular action is a failing) was daily plastered all over the internet for everyone surfing to see ? Sheesh! An interesting thing; in the interviews of Larry that I've read, most of the time, he did not paint himself as a wonderful human being. But you know, I'm less worried about those that paint themselves as wonderful (because we know they can't be !! ) than I am by those who glory in their human imperfections and in human imperfection generally. That's one of the reasons I like God so much - he lives in our reality but without the issues we attach. Let's just leave it to him to be the judge and if Larry has hurt any of us, do the Godly thing and forgive coz chances are, you're going to run into him again in the not too distant future.

  • Dougie Adam 11/09/2008 1:50:00 AM

    Here is another example of another sentence in the article which paints a picture of Larry Norman which is less than favourable and where your OC Weekly writer and or Dave Di Sabatino haven't got their facts right and where the picture they end up painting is probably therefore horribly inaccurate: "Stonehill breaks down as he recounts being approached on tour in Australia in 2005 by then-17-year-old Daniel Robinson, who claimed to be the son Norman never took care of�despite the Father of Christian Rock running a charity that sponsored abandoned children." As has already been pointed out it hasn't been established whether or not Daniel Robinson is Larry's son. Can Dave Di Sabatino / Mark Cocker clarify what the name of the charity in question that sponsored abandoned children is and where Larry Norman claimed that he ran the charity? Over the years Larry Norman released albums like "Children of Sorrow" to raise awareness of CCPC (Christian Community Placement Center) in Oregon, or mentioned Compassion International in his CD booklets on various releases and encouraged fans to sponsor a child through them or Tear Fund, and in 2001 he worked with some friends in Belfast to release a 4 CD box set "Rough Diamonds, Precious Jewels" (The Belfast Bootlegs) to raise money for a charity working with Romanian orphans. As far as I am aware Larry Norman never claimed to have set up or run any of those charities and if the writer of the article can't get their facts right and name this charity Larry ran or tell me where and when Larry claimed he ran a charity for abandoned children and they still haven't got back to me when i asked weeks ago for evidence that Larry lived in a cave in the Hollywood Hills for years after his first divorce and how they account for all the public sightings of Larry in Europe from 1980-83 when this article says he "disappeared from public view for years" after his divorce. I also had a look at the Cross Rhythms website and last time i looked there was 1 comment there posted critcising Dave Di Sabatino (the one your article quotes) and 1 comment posted congratulating him and wishing him well. Does this really amount to Sabi being the victim of an orchestrated hate campaign all over the internet from people wanting to derail his film or ruin his reputation? And there was me thinking that Larry was supposed to be the hyper-sensitive paranoid one.

  • Dougie Adam 10/31/2008 5:32:00 PM

    By making a statement like Larry 'disappeared from public for years' after his first divorce in 1980 and adding there were 'rumours he was living in a cave in the Hollywood Hills' your writer paints a picture of Larry as some madman recluse or down and out. I'd love someone to provide a shred of evidence for this picture you are painting c'mon guys after all you are supposed to be reporting on a news story here. Was it members of the Norman Family or other people on the Solid Rock payroll who dressed up as Larry and moved to England and helped set up Chapel Lane Records and produced albums for them or toured Europe a few times with Alwyn Wall and Norman Barratt during the years Larry disappeared from public view and lived in a cave? And Dave Di Sabatino do you really want to make a claim that the whole of Upon This Rock, Bootleg and Street Level stand up as all time great albums comparable with anything ever recorded by the Beatles, Dylan, Randy Newman or whoever else... a lot of Bootleg and Street Level were low cost quickly made demos and Larry was embarrassed by a song like "No More LSD For Me", some sample lyrics... Jesus fished because we floundered / Jesus walked upon the waves / and the world is sick but only Jesus saves! It might well be the case that Larry never again recorded albums of the quality of "Only Visiting This Planet" (1972, Verve / MGM), "So Long Ago The Garden" (1973, MGM), "In Another Land" (1975/6 Solid Rock) maybe that's because after that point he didn't have the finance from major labels to have outside production teams (Triumvirate on the MGM albums, and Andy Johns engineering the first couple of classic Solid Rock albums) and the kind of session players on those recordings... after "In Another Land" I don't remember too many albums with orchestral parts. Rather than build Larry up as some angelic genius with a midas touch for making great albums for a decade and then say he fell or something happened and he became a mad fraudster and never made a good album ever again, why not look at the facts... Bootleg and Street Level have their moments and lots of charm and enthusiasm but they're both pretty rough. Stream of White Light (mid-70s Solid Rock spoof album) is amusing but not a classic. Upon This Rock is probably over-rated. After his airplane accident in 1978 or divorce in 1980 Larry's material got pretty patchy. Way too many compilations and live albums and not enough brand new solid studio albums. But despite all that I think you'll find that in live albums like "Stop This Flight" (1984) and "Live At Flevo with Q-Stone" (1989) you have some very polished and exciting new music from Larry and a fair few new songs. I'm not a huge fan of his brother Charles' production style but I think if you want to look at the lyrics and songwriting on "Stranded In Babylon" (1991) or "Tourniquet" (2001) its as good as the songwriting on the trilogy albums and Charles' involvement on those albums meant the production was pretty tight and if you want to look at promising song cycles that were hurriedly recorded and not so polished ala Bootleg and Street Level then you have a new studio collection "A Moment In Time" (1994 - a rougher looser Something New Under The Son?) and there is pretty of new and promisong material spread out across "Copper Wires" (1998), "Shouting In The Storm" (1998), "Breathe In, Breathe Out" (1998), "The Vineyard" (1999), "Father Touch" (1999). As with Bootleg and Street Level in the 70s Larry re-recorded some polished studio versions of some of those songs on Tourniquet (2001) while with others we got left with the demos or rehearsal versions on Copper Wires and Breathe In, Breathe Out or live versions on Shouting In The Storm or The Vineyard. Here's a list of songs off the top of my head which don't fit Dave's theory that "something happens" in Larry's world and he never again writes anything worth listening to after 1980-ish: A Woman of God; Don't You Wanna Talk About It; What's Wrong With This Body?; Messiah; That's When Jesus Knew; Somewhere Out There; God Part III; Step Into The Madness; Baby's Got The Blues; All The Way Home; I Will Survive; Let The Rain Fall Down; Goodbye Farewell; Elvis Has Left The Building; The Long Hard Road, The Solid Rock; Protect My Child; Heaven Wants To Bless You; Bombs; It's Alright; Rock The Flock; Feed The Poor; Dark Passage; Near; The Troubles; Lugoj; All Fall Down; The Road That Leads To Home. I think if Larry had been in better health when writing and recording those songs and had the same budgets and production teams and session players available as he had when recording Planet, Garden and Land we'd all spend a lot less time talking about Larry as just a 70s phenomenum or leading figure in the Jesus Movement. You don't have to go with the troubled troubadour / fallen angel theory as to why Larry never kept on recording groundbreaking albums like Planet, Garden and Land year in year out. Its possible record companies thought that from 1969's "Upon This Rock" to 1981's "Something New Under The Son" Larry only had 1 good seller (In Another Land) in those 12 years and decided that if he hadn't had many hits in a decade where he was on Capitol Records and MGM recording at the Tower with leading musicians and AIR in London with leading musicians then he had probably missed his chance and wouldn't all of a sudden become a commercial success during a second decade on major labels with decent sized recording budgets. It's possible that whatever brain injury he suffered in 1978 and whatever heart problems he had from 1992 onwards that those health problems also hindered Larry completing polished projects on a regular basis. I think on average since about 1988 despite all his health issues Larry still managed to release a good / pretty good album every two or 3 years (the same as most other singers and bands?!) and every decade since the 70s he's made the occasional excellent album which suggests had things been different he might not be looked on as a 70's relic.

  • Paul 10/26/2008 7:48:00 PM

    Excellent post Wayne! All I would add is that, in DiSabatino's take on Larry's life, the focus would appear to be on the worst and ugly with the best and the beautiful in greater danger of being swept under the rug... "Summing it all up, friends, I'd say you'll do best by filling your minds and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious�the best, not the worst; the beautiful, not the ugly; things to praise, not things to curse." Paul, HMP Rome

  • Paul 10/26/2008 6:37:00 PM

    Excellent post Wayne! All I would add is that, in DiSabatino's take on Larry's life, the focus would appear to be on the worst and the ugly with the best and the beautiful more in danger of being swept under the rug... "Summing it all up, friends, I'd say you'll do best by filling your minds and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious�the best, not the worst; the beautiful, not the ugly; things to praise, not things to curse." Paul, H.M.P. Rome

  • Paul 10/26/2008 6:36:00 PM

    Excellent post Wayne! All I would add is that, in DiSabatino's take on Larry's life, the focus would appear to be on the worst and the ugly with the best and the beautiful more in danger of being swept under the rug... "Summing it all up, friends, I'd say you'll do best by filling your minds and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious�the best, not the worst; the beautiful, not the ugly; things to praise, not things to curse." Paul, H.M.P. Rome

  • Wayne Barnett 10/26/2008 9:49:00 AM

    It was around 1977 - 78 that Larry toured New Zealand and I was privileged to hear him. I have enjoyed a lot of his music, been challenged by it , and blessed through it. Being a part of the Daniel Amos fanbase, I am also aware of some of the more controversial aspects of Larry's behaviour in his final years. God alone knows the full story....and as He is the one who has the "final say", I will leave it up to Him. We are not called to judge, as the above contributor so rightly points out. God DID use Larry. Larry obviously wasn't perfect, and in fact sometimes fell far short of what we could expect from a man who professed to follow God. So did King David. So have I. Watch the movie with an open mind and heart. Reflect upon where Larry could have ended up if he hadn't met Jesus. I am not excusing Larry for anything, but I am not going to judge him either. Hiding the truth, whatever it may be, isn't going to do the church any good either. You can't get a balanced opinion on something if everybody sweeps everything under a thick, ecclesiastical carpet.....

  • Tammy 10/24/2008 8:58:00 PM

    Calvin, Well�it would seem that the talk from yourself and others would indicate that you know and suggest that Larry was a liar (as we all have been) and malicious and vindictive. From where my husband and I stand, this has been one HUGE publicity stunt. One side has lashed out and been caustic and taunted, and the other side has tried to represent a Christ-like attitude, and been ridiculed for it. The bad side of publicity is that it�s out there for everyone to see. The good side is that the foolish and what they say is out there for everyone to see. Anyone looking simply at the presentation of views, and the attitude behind those words, will see very clearly what the motives are. For those who seek to bring Larry down for his despicable actions, they are presenting themselves as judge and jury, and quite bereft of love, but overflowing with hatred. For those who love Larry, they are seen as naive and narrow minded, yet�they seem to present their vies with the love and grace of Jesus. It�s obvious if one simply reads this all. And the discussion outside of this environment suggest that true colors are very obvious. Tammy

  • Calvin 10/24/2008 2:19:00 AM

    I am a fan of Larry\'s music... but got so completely tired of him claiming that everyone was out to get him and that everyone but him was to blame. Like I said... I loved his music, but he wasn\'t telling the truth when it came to himself and what he did. His fans aren\'t going to be able to handle the truth... obviously... but they\'re better off knowing that he could be malicious and vindictive.

  • Raoul 10/24/2008 2:15:00 AM

    One of the reasons that this is so refreshing is that people are going to finally see what Larry Norman was all about. He would set people up... and because they were Christians, they thought they needed to back down. And he played on this over and over and over again. This guy just didn\'t back down. He got out a camera... went to the people who had dealt with this Norman guy... and he asked them what was up. He deserves to be angry at this guy... that is the least he can do. Seems \"Larry Norman Fan UK\" doesn\'t put that in his luandry list of sins. What about what Larry did to start all this? You seem to act like he was a victim. Doesn\'t sound like that to me. Even if this guy was bitter as hell... what\'s he going to do, make the stuff up? Stop believing that these people walk on water.

  • Larry Norman Fan 10/23/2008 11:14:00 PM

    I'm still struggling to put my finger on exactly what is so disturbing about the publicity campaign surrounding this film. I'm still, possibly naively, hopeful that the film itself will not be as seemingly vindictive as the publicity campaign. Is it the name calling? Is it that we are being asked to accept Larry as,"skunk," or,"sociopath," or his fans as,"freaks?" Is it that the majority of those calling the names tend to sound suspiciously like the film maker himself, in his,"on-line," persona? Have they been to Sabbi Seminary," or is there a simpler explanation? Is it the timing? Is it being recently bereaved that makes it excruciatingly painful to read the multiple posts (here and on other web-sites) demanding we look down on and condemn our beloved brother-in-the-Lord? Is it the persistent attacks on Larry's family? Is it possibly the triumphant publishing of the home addresses of the Normans, including that of Larry's elderly mother? Is it the particularly cold-hearted/callous feel to the campaign? Is it the participants evident relish for revenge as a dish best served cold? Whatever it is... I hope that those who participated in the documentary have found the telling of their stories cathartic and the recognition and proclamation helpful for their self-esteem (Daniel, in particular, whatever the truth of his situation) and will eventually be able to move on, forgive and in forgiveness find healing. I hope there is something in this film that will draw viewers (and the participants) to the Comforter of the broken and the hurting. I also hope that people will be drawn to Larry's music and the deep honesty of his lyrics as he explores the pain and failure inherent in being born into this fallen planet and the very real hope that is to be found ONLY in that Man from Galilee Larry Norman Fan

  • stephan 10/23/2008 4:17:00 PM

    Andrew, No, I'm not on the Solid Rock Payroll...not even a Solid Rock fan. And, for me, nothing about the Bible is quasi. I'm so sorry you have to be so aggresive with those of us who may have a different take on the film, NOT the situation with Daniel. If it was a film about Daniel, that would be one thing. But from how the review reads, it's more about Larry Norman's fall from grace. I guess I don't understand why you and your cohorts can't accept and discuss other views without attack. I have no cohorts, Andrew. I'm a guy wondering what purpose there is in Christ of exposing and attacking the character of anyone in public. Clearly from the responses here and on other sites, the group of supporters for the nature of this film is not that significant. Is this film to gather as many anti'Norman people as possible...to sway the public opinion against Larry, or to tell the story of your step-son? So far, it weighs heavy in the court of the first of those two options. Please stop attacking. I have not done so here, and i think that maturity would suggest that there should be able to be healthy discussion here, seasoned with salt, and the mentioning of any Biblical passage should not be considered something "quasi". Stephan

  • Andrew 10/23/2008 3:41:00 PM

    What is your problem Stephan !! Are you on the Solid Rock payroll or something? Stop hiding behind your quasi religious Bible-speak .. you DARE to say this has "no eternal value" .. before the foundation of the Earth my friend, God, the creator of the universe had a young man named Daniel in mind, and still does, God is working through "His" plan to show Daniel how much he cares about him, to show Daniel that even though his earthly father(larry) was not interested in him and his Uncle Charlie is not interested in him... that someone is .. his Heavenly Father is vitally interested in him .. Larry wouldn't acknowledge Daniel, Uncle Charlie wont acknowledge Daniel ... but guess what !! God is going to "shout Daniels name from the rooftops !!" .. isn't it fantastic !! What weak men wont do .. God will do. Thank you Sabbi for your courage, thank you for giving a young man who has no power in this situation a voice. And Marc .. I loved your post .. you are bang on Stephan .. why dont you and your cohorts .. get on your computers, go to google, type in "Larry Norman" and read "warm and fuzzy" things about Larry until your hearts are fully satiated .. The rest of us in the real world have a job to do ... Recocognise that not everyone has your "Larry World" view on life. Andrew, Married to Jennifer .. who is Daniels mother

  • stephan 10/23/2008 2:51:00 PM

    Will, I'm not religious at all...far from it. Just wonder if the scutiny should be in the publlic forum. Does it serve a purpose, and if so, what? And again, would you want your indiscretions put out there for all to see, or is this scrutiny between you and God? Clearly there are two sides here, but in as much as you see the side I'm on a religious, I see you side as antagonistic. Challenge my thinking, not my character. That seems like a tall order for some. Stephan

  • Will 10/23/2008 7:59:00 AM

    Stephan, Why are religious types not open for this type of scrutiny? If this fellow has been unfair, then people will see it. The amount of rabidness against this film even before it is seen though tells me that he is right on the mark. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Stop hiding behind religious doubletalk. Anyone is fair game for this sort of thing. If this guy lives his life in a proper way... no problem. If he didn\'t... well, there you go.

  • Stephan 10/22/2008 10:46:00 PM

    Marc, And is this what we are to really do�expose the stink of one another to a global audience? It has very little Biblical precedence. More over, we are to forgive one another�love�and don�t point out the speck in a brothers eye, with a log in our own. I too was privy to �behind the scenes�. If the film shows one quarter of what Larry did that was good for the Kingdom, I�ll be shocked. Thousands came to Christ as a result of his ministry. Those numbers won�t change in the Kingdom as a result of this film. Perhaps you and Mr. DiSabatino would like for expos� to be done on the stink of your lives, and spread around. David has a past, and it would be awful to publicly display that to the Christian community. For what purpose? Or shall we do it to you? Would the world be outright shocked to smell your stink, or David�s, or mine? I think so, but that is NOT what Christ was about. Sure�it�s been said on other online site regarding this subject, �Well�the truth should be told, and known�. The old adage that �the ground at the foot of the cross is level� really should apply here. And even beyond that, the redemptive work of the shed blood of Christ on that cross should make all us sinners equally saved by grace, therefore rendering us �no better (or worse) than the next guy. This is a film. It has no eternal value. But the heart behind it does, and those who embrace this sort of tabloid presentation, like Mr. Stonehill, who played a few songs at the pre-release premi�, may have some regrets in aligning themselves with this. This movie ONLY says, in your words, �Look at how Larry Norman stinks�. That would suggest a caste system, whereby this film would serve to make those who make that claim appear to be better than Larry. Remarkable� Stephan

  • Stephan 10/22/2008 5:24:00 PM

    Marc, And is this what we are to really do�expose the stink of one another to a global audience? It has very little Biblical precedence. More over, we are to forgive one another�love�and don�t point out the speck in a brothers eye, with a log in our own. I too was privy to �behind the scenes�. If the film shows one quarter of what Larry did that was good for the Kingdom, I�ll be shocked. Thousands came to Christ as a result of his ministry. Those numbers won�t change in the Kingdom as a result of this film. Perhaps you and Mr. DiSabatino would like for expos� to be done on the stink of your lives, and spread around. David has a past, and it would be awful to publicly display that to the Christian community. For what purpose? Or shall we do it to you? Would the world be outright shocked to smell your stink, or David�s, or mine? I think so, but that is NOT what Christ was about. Sure�it�s been said on other online site regarding this subject, �Well�the truth should be told, and known�. The old adage that �the ground at the foot of the cross is level� really should apply here. And even beyond that, the redemptive work of the shed blood of Christ on that cross should make all us sinners equally saved by grace, therefore rendering us �no better (or worse) than the next guy. This is a film. It has no eternal value. But the heart behind it does, and those who embrace this sort of tabloid presentation, like Mr. Stonehill, who played a few songs at the pre-release premi�, may have some regrets in aligning themselves with this. This movie ONLY says, in your words, �Look at how Larry Norman stinks�. That would suggest a caste system, whereby this film would serve to make those who make that claim appear to be better than Larry. Remarkable� Stephan

  • Marc Foster 10/22/2008 10:55:00 AM

    That\'s what happens when you expose a skunk... it sometimes stinks. I was privy to the goings on behind the scnees with Larry. Not pretty. If this film exposes even a quarter... people are going to be shocked. Outright shocked.

  • mrcs 10/22/2008 10:29:00 AM

    The movie hasn't even been released yet and already we're fighting over it. I'm so saddened by this. Whatever the content is - true or untrue - it has already caused division and hurt within "the body" itself. Perhaps those of us who are interested should watch the movie, with discernment and those of us whose stomachs are turned (by what we feel the motivation behind this is) should avoid it, and just leave it at that. All in all they will know we are Christians by our love one for the other. No wonder Jesus preached this message over and over and over - He knew how hard we'd struggle with it.

  • mrcs 10/22/2008 10:29:00 AM

    The movie hasn't even been released yet and already we're fighting over it. I'm so saddened by this. Whatever the content is - true or untrue - it has already caused division and hurt within "the body" itself. Perhaps those of us who are interested should watch the movie, with discernment and those of us whose stomachs are turned (by what we feel the motivation behind this is) should avoid it, and just leave it at that. All in all they will know we are Christians by our love one for the other. No wonder Jesus preached this message over and over and over - He knew how hard we'd struggle with it.

  • Paul 10/21/2008 3:21:00 PM

    "...but am sure that everything that is said about him is true..." Well Walter W, We sometimes tend to think we know all we need to know to answer these kinds of questions�but sometimes our humble hearts can help us more than our proud minds. We never really know enough until we recognize that God alone knows it all. Paul, Corinth

  • Walter W. 10/21/2008 4:03:00 AM

    I loved Larry Norman\'s music... but am sure that everything that is said about him is true. Let the guy tell his story. god can use a jackass. why not this guy.

  • CHS 10/21/2008 2:37:00 AM

    My college roommate used Larry Norman's music to turn me on to Jesus Christ. Perhaps I'll just skip the various works cited in this article.

  • Michael 10/21/2008 12:44:00 AM

    It's simple......Larry lived a dual life and his die hard fans, the real fanatics are thrown for a loop here.......but to be angry at a film maker.....who set out to make a movie of one of his heroes.......and well, got the same history from person after person after person that lived life along side Larry Norman.......what did they want him to do?? And to the person who said...."Don't believe everthing you read in newspapers"....well the same can be said for Larry's falsehoods in his liner notes, and on his website......Supported an orphanage in India.......HOGWASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was the king of self promotion............

  • Stephan 10/20/2008 11:15:00 PM

    Wow Bradley, Barry and Borlind... A tad paranoid? I guess if the purpose of the film is to hurt Larry Norman fans�make fun of them, and destroy his legacy, than have at it. Again, your rhetoric only serves to point out that this is all about destroying one man's reputation...a reputation he may have tarnished himself, but propelled by this sort of parlour antics into a carnival. You lash out at fans...calling them worshippers of Larry�a device that is quite juvenile, but expected from your kind. It like playing 'king of the hill". Pity...there is no balance in the article, and one would guess from reading it that the reviewer never even saw the film. For those of us that appreciated Larry's music and ministry, and more so, appreciate God's love and mercy, this is not about worshipping Larry, but worshipping the one who forgives. You can experience it too. Instead of trying to raise the ire of the public, why not let the article and film speak for itself. If it needs your words to fuel it, then it�s not much of a piece, is it?

  • Dougie Adam 10/20/2008 11:07:00 PM

    "Norman disappeared from public for years after that, and there were rumors he was living in a cave in the Hollywood Hills." Larry moved to England in 1980 after his first divorce and after Solid Rock Records was dismantled. He sang on mainstage at Greenbelt in summer 1980. He was involved with Chapel Lane Records for a couple of years and produced / engineered / sang and co-wrote on various Chapel Lane albums released from 1981-3 by the likes of Alwyn Wall, Norman Barratt, Shelia Walsh and Lyrix. He also toured the UK and Europe (there are magazine ads, reviews of concerts and live recordings to prove it) and i think he also probably toured in Australia, New Zealand as well as USA and Canada during the "years" that page 4 of your article says he "disappeared from public" and was rumoured to be living in a cave in the Hollywood Hills. Some albums released by Larry after 1980... "Something New Under The Son", "Barking At The Ants", "Live On Tour With His Friends Featuring Alwyn Wall & Norman Barratt", "Letter of the Law"; "Labor of Love", "The Story of The Tune"... all released between 1981-83 and about half of these were recorded during these years... not a bad haul when added to the Chapel Lane albums for other artists, tours and other projects which were recorded but not released during this time. One former band member i have corresponded with told me that 1983 saw a lot of unreleased studio sessions where many of the songs which cropped up on the 1984 live album "Stop This Flight" had been recorded with a band in the studio prior to the live album being made with different versions of those songs.

  • Borlind 10/20/2008 11:01:00 PM

    this film guy ran into a sociopath... and stirring up a sociopath\'s nest... you are going to get stung... a sociopath will turn and look at you as if you are the one who is evil... they don\'t see it themselves... and they will do anything to destory you. good luck, man

  • Borlind 10/20/2008 10:58:00 PM

    this film guy ran into a sociopath... and stirring up a sociopath\'s nest... you are going to get stung... a sociopath will turn and look at you as if you are the one who is evil... they don\'t see it themselves... and they will do anything to destory you. good luck, man

  • Barry 10/20/2008 9:59:00 PM

    Di Sabatino... you go man... good for you. Larry was unique and amazing... but he could be a jackass. God still uses jackasses... and I am betting that is all you are saying. Not sure why thats a problem for some. Get over your Larry Norman worship you freaks! Barry

  • Bradley 10/20/2008 9:56:00 PM

    Sounds as though the Norman fans are scared about what is going to be revealed. Good for this guy. I liked Larry Norman\'s music but was dismayed by his actions. He seemed to be saying one thing on stage and doing another. I saw the Frisbee movie and thought it was bang on. Unfortunately, like everyone else that got close to Larry, the filmmaker is going to have to endure the stuff that Larry put others through... assassinating their character and doing this sort of shameless thing on the Internet. I am betting they are paying people to write this sort of stuff everywhere on the Net they can. Let the truth come out.

  • Dougie Adam 10/20/2008 4:48:00 PM

    I suspect that in the overall scheme of things that David Di Sabatino's film will be 'useful' in highlighting the negative side of Larry's life, the broken marriages and relationships and the recording industry stuff and allowing people who were frequently mentioned in Larry's CD booklets and newsletters and fanzines to have their say and tell their side of the story. I suspect that where the film will be weak will be on presenting a balanced view of Larry as a person. I corresponded with Larry for the best part of a decade, worked on magazine articles about him, travelled with him on a tour and have an almost finished book about him in rough draft format, and my experience of dealing with him is overwhelmingly positive. I know many other people who have a similarly positive experience of Larry as a friend and encourager and none of them have been interviewed. I have observed DDS's own contributions on a Yahoo group and soon concluded that as well as being someone who did some interesting research and was able to challenge some of the hype and spin surrounding Larry's life and music he frequently hit out at people who had a different view and experience of Larry or who offered opinion's which didn't fit with Sabi's research and hypothesis. I expect that as well as Larry announcing he wasn't taking part in Sabi's film that a number of potential interviewees have been put off from offering to contribute because of Sabi's own behaviour online where it was quite normal for him to accuse anyone putting forward a different view to him as 1) being a sycophant or 2) being a member of the Norman family posting under a false online ID. Also, as someone who owns a copy of Sabi's book on the Jesus Movement i find it hard to take seriously that given his comments on Larry and the SOlid Rock Records releases in that book the claim in this article that Sabi and Larry got on really well Sabi only changed his view after dealing with Larry over the issue of the Frisbee soundtrack. There are at least 2 sides to every story and Sabi's film will i'm sure be good at telling 1 side to part's of Larry's life. Without Larry's involvement or that of his family or many of his friends (including some people who have worked well with him for 30 years) it may not tell the complete story or much of a balance, and i'll wait and see how much coverage Sabi gives on the breakdown of Randy Stonehill's first marriage to asking his friend why he remarried the same year as he divorced (1980).

  • Larry Norman Fan 10/20/2008 5:02:00 AM

    Well Bill, It all depends on your perception of the truth... "It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me ....But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice." "Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners� of whom I am the worst." St Paul Undoubtedly Larry was a sinner saved by grace and, if the public proclamation of Larry's sins (actual, alleged and cinematically enhanced) leads one other sinner to come to know the God whose Son was known as, "the Friend of Sinners", then I will rejoice. That being said, I would still feel deeply uneasy about purchasing or paying to view, "Fallen Angel.". To quote Sabbi, "Everybody has a bias, and when they come at an issue, they use those things that support their argument (whether tweaked or not)." Undoubtedly the film is biased. If in, "Frisbee," we are looking through the eyes of Lonnie's ex-wife, who seems to have borne a grudge against Chuck Smith, Calvary Chapel and the Vineyard, then in, "Fallen Angel," it seems that we see Larry through the eyes of those who bear a grudge against the man himself. Those bearing grudges would seem to include the film maker, Mr Di Sabatino. So far we have heard about Larry the musical genius and Larry the spectacular sinner. I wonder if the film also hints at the Larry who reached out to the broken, hurting people on the streets and in the prisons. The Larry who gave to the homeless and fed the poor. The Larry who, despite pain and increasing physical frailty, continued to witness, encourage and minister the love of God right up to the end. I'm so grateful that in God's documentary of Larry's life (and my life) it is the sin that is edited out! So long as any one of us comes to Christ and repents of his sin (no matter how spectacular that sin might be) then... "God does not look at you and see any sin... God looks at you and sees only the blood of Christ." Larry Norman - Final Solo Concert NYC - August 2007 Larry Norman Fan

  • Bill 10/19/2008 10:00:00 PM

    Well, Stephan... So, you really think that writing comments after a provoking more controversy about this film is going to diminish its reach? Interesting... This story tells the truth... and I think there are people who would do anything to derail that truth. Kind of like what Larry did in real life to hide himself.

  • Stephan 10/19/2008 6:26:00 PM

    Well, Bill, As a very wise man said once, "Don't believe what you read in the papers". The info has been spun like a top, and I think that you'll find that the court of public opinion, as even seen here in the comment so far, is not buying it, other than those involved with the filmaker, or those who believe the stories in The Weekly World News!

  • Bill 10/19/2008 12:08:00 PM

    So... when Larry Norman died, his family sends out a note asking people to help them pay funeral costs and to continue sending money to the underprivileged children that Larry sponsored. But now, Charles Norman is talking about "teams" of lawyers standing by. Curious. Bill

  • Karl 10/19/2008 8:01:00 AM

    I can say this. in the last few months I have seen David act as the Norman's accuse, and 7 days ago, he posted the addresses of three of the Norman family residences on an Internet forum. I have also seen him post very harsh denunciations of the Norman's leading many to believe he does harbor a personal motive which should be considered. Whether that says anything about the broader issues is up to you to determine, but in regards to the Norman's complaints about him, I can say from fact they are true.

  • St. Peter 10/19/2008 5:11:00 AM

    Isn't it normal to judge a movie once you've seen it?

  • Mark 10/19/2008 4:27:00 AM

    It's a pretty sad day when Jerry Springer's world invades the body of Christ. Scripture lays out loving and firm guidelines for dealing with sin. Hitting a guy when he's not here to speak for himself any longer is pretty low. Larry is deserving of an honest look at his life - the good and the bad - by someone who has not had personal issues with him and is not objective. I've always admired Randy Stonehill's music and life - that is being diminished by his involvement in this project and other activities that smack of hypocrisy. If DiSabatino wants to be the Michael Moore of the Christian world, he needs to set his sights a little higher.

  • Mark 10/19/2008 4:27:00 AM

    It's a pretty sad day when Jerry Springer's world invades the body of Christ. Scripture lays out loving and firm guidelines for dealing with sin. Hitting a guy when he's not here to speak for himself any longer is pretty low. Larry is deserving of an honest look at his life - the good and the bad - by someone who has not had personal issues with him and is not objective. I've always admired Randy Stonehill's music and life - that is being diminished by his involvement in this project and other activities that smack of hypocrisy. If DiSabatino wants to be the Michael Moore of the Christian world, he needs to set his sights a little higher.

  • Mark T 10/18/2008 4:32:00 PM

    Finally a documentary on Larry Norman that tells the truth! Wishing David Di Sabatino all the best with this film.

  • jennifer 10/18/2008 12:16:00 PM

    Well done ... thanks Sabbi!!

  • Larry Norman Fan 10/18/2008 9:59:00 AM

    I should have added that, in his description of his interactions with Larry, Sabbi was spinning so hard and fast it's a wonder he didn't spontaneously combust! Bless his cotton socks :-) Larry Norman Fan UK

  • Larry Norman Fan 10/18/2008 4:37:00 AM

    I couldn't agree more with all that G Brown has written. "There is a world I see around me where hate & mercy can finally meet... ...I close my eyes to all the darkness & feel His love wash over me... ....and in this place there is compassion which calls an enemy a friend." LN "The Road That Leads To Home" Recorded in Room 473 -Salem Hospital Feb 2007 Larry was actively praying for David Di Sabatino until the day he died

  • G Brown 10/17/2008 9:20:00 PM

    I have personally followed Larry's career and music since around 1970. I actually listened to and processed what he was saying. Subsequently, I supported his efforts by purchasing and sharing almost everything he ever put out, from the beginning, as it became available. His faith, life and music clearly changed my own life and creative direction in a positive way and continue to do so to this very day, yet, I am not naive, either. I know of no human being if, their life was forced under the microscope of painstaking recollection, examination and post-event commentary would not, could not be portrayed in the most dismal of lights. This misguided notion that "humanizing" any of us, does in fact do that to some redeeming, noble value is dubious at best. Sure, facts are facts, opinions and subjective, personal perspectives of various people are no more than just that. All of this whole matter actually goes to intended motivation of Di Sabatino; something which in truth, none of us will ever know... that being something only God is in on. What does this mean? Be wise. Understand and thoughtfully process everything you see. Remember that without commercial ($) success, no film gets circulated or brings accolades to its producer/director. How far will someone go in their efforts to titillate people and build audience buzz in order to get their efforts to pay off in cinema bucks? Do the makers of films with dubious motivations inadvertently reveal within themselves, the same types of "foibles" they seek to "expose" in their subject matter? Hmmm. Think about it... but not too long; don't forget to love. gb

 

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