When Gunner Jay Lindberg Killed Thien Minh Ly, Was It Actually a Hate Crime?

Hate and Death
Was the murder of Thien Minh Ly actually a hate crime? His killer’s fate hangs on The answer

If Thien Minh Ly had looked up as he Rollerbladed in slow circles on the Tustin High School tennis courts, he would have seen a few stars flickering in the partly cloudy night sky over the nearby Santa Ana Mountains. The 5-foot-6, 117-pound immigrant with a gentle demeanor and a curiosity for discovery had been back in Orange County for a year after returning from graduate school at Georgetown University, and he was still mulling his next career move. Doctor? Lawyer? He’d even voiced a hope to one day serve as the first Vietnamese American ambassador to his birthplace.

The 24-year-old’s boyish looks belied his tenaciousness. With his family, Ly—born in Tuy Hoa, a coastal village in Central Vietnam—fled brutal conditions in communist Vietnam via boat in 1983 after his father, an officer in the South Vietnamese military, was released from a concentration camp. After a stint living in an Indonesian refugee camp, the family arrived in California. Only 12 years old at the time, Ly led his non-English-speaking parents and two younger siblings through the early difficulties of life in an alien country. The family eventually opened a video rental shop in Santa Ana. A few months before he went Rollerblading on that cool January 1996 night, he had used a blue-ink pen and a yellow Post-It note to memorialize a thought he’d stick to a page in his diary.

“I live in today and not very far into tomorrow,” he wrote. “I do my best every minute of the day, and when it’s over, I know there is more to come.”

But hazel-eyed death—dressed all in black, with Jack in the Box on his breath and carrying a butcher’s knife—appeared suddenly from the darkness, taunted Ly on the tennis courts, mocked his fear, showed him no mercy and robbed him of his dreams.

Time has a habit of letting us forget tragedies, even ones that spark outrage, like this one did in Little Saigon and in Asian communities across the nation. It’s been 12 years, but a key question about the murder is now the subject of a debate at the California Supreme Court. In coming weeks, the justices will finally announce if Ly really was the victim of a hate crime. For the killer, that decision is a matter of life or death.

 

“I guess if your [sic] not white your [sic] not right.”
—Ly’s murderer in a letter to a friend

 

Less than a quarter-mile from Ly’s home, on an apartment wall over a futon, was taped a big-toothed caricature of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. with a gaping bullet hole between his eyebrows. The image came with a message: “If we could have killed four more, we would have had the rest of the week off.”

But that wasn’t enough for Gunner Jay Lindberg. The 21-year-old Orange County native had used a yellow crayon to add the word “DEATH” to the upper-left corner of the poster on his bedroom wall. A second, mass-produced poster on the same wall showed two young white girls playing joyously.

The room had a dirty white bedsheet for a curtain. On top of a small, cheap television and a cheaper VCR sat a plastic skull wearing a helmet with a swastika, two cross-country running trophies and miniature models of 1950s cars. A nightstand contained three bottles of Jack Daniels; books on violence; videos depicting gruesome real-life deaths; correspondence with the Aryan Nation, KKK groups, White Aryan Resistance, the New Order (a successor to the American Nazi Party) and National Association for the Advancement of White People; a folder with a list of people he wanted dead (mostly ex-friends and co-workers); a black notebook with thoughts on a coming intergalactic battle; an obnoxious spoof of an application to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP); and a red-letter edition of the King James Bible, in which he had scrawled personal addresses for white supremacists in various states and this ominous note: “It’s not God’s will that everyone be healed in this life.”

A quick-tempered box stocker at a Tustin Kmart with a penchant for picking fights with Asians, African-Americans and Latinos—anyone, really—Lindberg didn’t graduate from high school and possessed few social skills but was artistically gifted. He’d converted both a white 2.5-pound Gourmet’s Choice fruit container and a cardboard San Francisco 49ers checkers box into storage for his marijuana stash after redecorating them with swirling, hand-drawn psychedelic images of anger, death and Hitler. If pot soothed other people’s minds, it only fueled Lindberg’s fantasies of becoming, he wrote, “the king of all evil and distruction [sic].”

Lindberg, who also took methamphetamines, never lived up to his narcissistic imagination. During an eight-year crime spree beginning at age 12, he proved himself to be little more than a thug who preyed on the defenseless. His victims included a cop’s 11-year-old son, whom he chased and shot in the throat with a BB gun; a day laborer, whom he attacked with a tree limb for the money in his pocket; a skateboarder, whom he repeatedly kicked in the stomach as he stole the board; the peers he angrily chased, firing a shotgun, over a perceived slight; an on-duty prison guard, whom he brutally ambushed; and an elderly woman, whom he pummeled during a home-invasion robbery for drug money.

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  • Brittney 11/18/2011 10:58:00 PM

    Gunner is a good man he's nice funny loveing and careing I mean yeah I know what he did was rong but gunner feels like he deserves to be in death row but honestly I don't think he deserves to be on death row because he is a good man and a great friend... I have never meet gunner but my mom did and they was best friends and gunners mom dated my uncle eddie.....so gunner is a really close friend to my family and he's a really good man once you get to know him like my family does and he's the best drawer that I know and I love gunner like a brother

  • Beautifulcreature1974 08/16/2011 6:20:00 AM

    What do you think all these post are a bunch of hating going on is all I see from all of you ... Yes what he did was more then a mistake but an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind .. I have not seen or spoke to gunner in years but he is not a monster and never was I'm not making excuses for his actions but this type of crime is not normal so did you ever think he has a story beside the one in the paper .. no he is not an animal either .. everyone has the right to thier opinion but your opinion dosent make the facts wrong and the fact is this he is a man who at a young age lost his way through many trials and tribulations life handed him not by his choice and he dealt with them the best he could until one day they effected his good judgement and he is paying the ultiment price he has to live each day with what he has done .... Keep your head Gunner and keep faith ..

  • Anti-Crime 03/08/2011 11:29:00 PM

    Sorry SL / Megan, these two guys are a scum-bag. They are wasting everyone's tax money everyday they breathe and eat. This isn't a minor mess-up, this is a big mess-up. There is no doubt or question they should die for their crimes. Reading his depiction on how he stabbed and slit Ly's throat while he was grasping and choking on his own blood while feeling no remorse illustrates he is an animal. Who thinks we should bring back public hanging?

  • John 04/16/2010 10:55:00 PM

    I don't know who people can say this asshole is a good person. I don't care if you talk to the asshole on a regular basis. I judge people by their action not their words. People can lie and cry at whim to shore up their image, but their actions is their character. I hope this guy rot in hell.

  • SL 03/10/2010 6:10:00 PM

    Just for the record NYC - I was born and raised in the US, I'm not a "damn Swede" as you referenced. You have a right to your opinion, but you know nothing more than the media tells about Gunner, which holds little truth.

  • NYC 03/10/2010 10:11:00 AM

    California must have the highest per capita rate of idiots in the nation, especially after reading Megan & SL's comments, who definitely have a vested interest in the case- damn Swedes! Society will be a much better place when HE IS DEAD!

  • Terry 01/13/2010 1:32:00 AM

    This crime was not motivated by "male testosterone" as the Defender stated. Evil in the Soul. People who have no value for human life. That poor Mr Ty. I wish there was more justice in the world.

  • SL 12/02/2009 12:26:00 AM

    Everyone has a right to their opinion. However, I myself believe that it DOES MATTER when someone changes for the better, as Gunner has. No one is listening to Gunner�s side of the story, his battles, and no one has tried to understand. There is a lot of emotion involved in this case and my heart goes out to everyone involved. I think compassion could go a long way and wishing someone to die does not do any good - it just continues the hate that, thank God, is not part of Gunner anymore.

  • sam 12/01/2009 9:51:00 PM

    There is no real winner in this battle for justice. The victim died the minute those two guys killed him. Now those two guys are serving time, whether or not they will be executed, or whether or not they used to be good kids and how they have changed being incarcelated. It doesn't matter. Sympathy goes to both families (the victim and the killer's) because the families and loved ones will be burdened with the guilt and all the emotion that comes with a senseless crime. What can this nation do to prevent this senseless crime again? The reason this nation has overcrowding in prison is telling us there is something wrong about this country and something is not working well. how can we fix it. in ideal world we woudln't have this problem but in this real life we must find preventative solution to this problem. the community should have done something to stop the evil after finding just a small dosage of it. everybody loses because this murder case just lost one smart man who devoted his life in academia and leadership and could have been a positive impact in so many more lives and in society at large and to have some "home made" terrorist snatch this bright man who was gonna help this nation going forward is worse than war on terror because the authorities and the media are not spending much time on it and leaving a blind eye. i don't believe these two man have what it takes to redeem themselves and Megan (the relative of the killer) is only biased. of course nobody knew the killers personally and up close and personal like you have honey. you live in a world of denial. everything leading up to the murder showed that nobody stepped up to the plate and helped them and that those two murderers are not positive contributors of society. They should send those non contributors to labor camps like they do in north korea. at least then they will make real contributions. and each finger chopped off everytime they committed a crime as a youth so they will learn a lesson. real redemption and service to community is for them to be executed asap so that it saves natural resources(air,food,space) and tax payer's money. they can do real redeeming in their next life because this lifetime is not worth the fight. you failed. no hard feelings nothing personal. just die

  • Kate 09/26/2009 1:45:00 PM

    Congratulations on being featured in the Best American Crime Reporting for 2009. This was the first article I read, given that I am very interested in death penalty cases. I thought it was excellent writing, which is the same thing as saying excellent story telling. Lindberg is a frightening character. I'm curious; does anyone know if he had brain injuries or other neurological trauma? His behavior was so aberrant that it would not be suprising if confirmed. (I was about to say that the behavior was atypical for his AGE; then again, no age group "typically" exhibits such wanton violence). While some may argue that neurological damage contributing to criminal acts absolves culpability, I do not, despite my belief in neuropsychology. It appears that Lindberg was subject to a variety of influences, but ultimately, he freely made the choice to brutally snuff out an innocent life. Again, I really enjoyed the article and thought it definitely deserved being featured among the best.

  • SL 08/05/2009 6:56:00 PM

    Megan - you are very welcome. Yes, I do know the real Gunner. He is a blessing to me and I love him dearly. I would do anything for Gunner as he does done so much for me. You take care and God Bless You as well.

  • Megan Owens 08/05/2009 6:51:00 PM

    Finally someone knows the real Gunner, the nice, sweet Gunner. Thank you for not judgeing him and taking the time to get to know him. You have no idea how much it means to me to finally have someone that is not family on my side. I wish I could explain in words how greatful I am but I can't. You are a great person and God bless you!

  • SL 06/25/2009 1:38:00 AM

    Hi Megan - I just came across the comments regarding Gunner. I have been writing him for over a year now and there are a few things that I wish to say. Gunner is a changed man. He does feel remorse for what happened. He is not full of evil. In fact, he has treated me with great kindness and friendship. I wish people would not judge him solely on past actions and without knowing him. He has good in him. People just have not taken the time to see it. I want everyone to know that he has become a better man.

  • Megan 05/28/2009 8:03:00 PM

    GUNNER IS NOT A BAD PERSON. YEAH HE MESSED UP A FEW TIMES AND THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT HE DID BUT YALL HAVE NO IDEA THE REAL TRUTH. I READ THE LETTER, I TALKED TO HIM, I KNOW THE TRUTH. ALL IM SAYING IS THIS IS NOT A HATE CRIME AND MOST OF THAT STUFF YALL SAID ABOUT HIM IS NOT TRUE, YALL ARE JUST TALKING SHIT ABOUT A SITUATION YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT! ALL YALL KNOW IS THAT HE KILLED SOME RANDOM GUY ON A TENNIS COURT ONE NIGHT AND USE THT AGAINST HIM AND JUDGE HIM. IF THIS HAPPENDE TO SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY MAYBE THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND MY ANGER.

  • Hannibal 05/06/2009 10:57:00 AM

    Yo, Megan. Gunner fired a shotgun at a crowd of high school students, ambushed a prison guard, shot a little boy in the throat, stomped another kid to steal his skateboard, beat the hell out of an old woman during a home invasion robbery, attacked a Mexican field worker for cash, joined white supremacist groups, mocked the murder of Martin Luther King and stabbed a unarmed Vietnamese American 22 times on a school tennis court. Nice resume for a freak punk who was only 21. He will rot in hell.

  • Megan 05/05/2009 9:41:00 PM

    Whatever i know Gunner is not a bully or a monster or anything else yall have been saying. He is my family and i love him reguardless of what he did. I know he is changed and that he learned his lesson. There is no excuse for what he did and yes he does deserve to sit in jail and have to relive that night over and over again and im sure it is eating him alive, but for all yall talking s***, yall should really just drop it now becuause ya know whats done is done and nothing you can say is going to make a difference now. Gunner i love you and i will hopefully see you soon, I know you are not a bad person and lets (family) stick together and you WILL get through this!

  • Ed 04/02/2009 4:39:00 PM

    Sorry Megan. The guy is a racist bully and a total waste of air. We'll see how tough he is when they pump him full of chemicals until he's dead and do the human race a favor. If there were true justice, one of the victim's family members would be allowed to stab this murderous scumbag to death. Rot in hell, Lindberg.

  • Megan 03/27/2009 9:37:00 PM

    Okay well if yall truely believe this is a hate crime please tell me how? You have no proof or evidence that he killed Ly becuase he was Asian so i would really like to know how this could be. And for everyone who cant answer that then stop posting comments saying terrible things about Gunner!!

  • Gina T 01/31/2009 9:49:00 AM

    Wow. This is one of the most powerful crime stories I've ever read in my life. Because of your work, I feel so much for Thien Minh Ly on that tennis court and wish I had been there with an Uzi to help him fight off his crazy attackers.

  • Megan 01/20/2009 9:44:00 PM

    well lisa my point is that this is not a hate crime! how can you tell me that my cousin is a monster when you know absolutely nothing about him beside he murdered someone? i never said that what my cousin did wasn't wrong i am just simpily saying he is not a monster and this is not a hate crime! maybe you should do a little reasearch before you start talking about a situation or a person you know nothing about! on and btw lisa its kinda hard to be "raceist" against the person you are the closest to!

  • Lisa 12/14/2008 2:16:00 PM

    This man is a monster and he should spend the rest of his life rotting in jail. Btw Megan, just because someone has Asian relatives, doesn't mean they can't be racist...

  • Megan 10/23/2008 9:45:00 PM

    This is not a hate crime! Do yall think that maybe there was someting going on in is life? If yall would read the letter he wrote it would explain the murder perfectly, and in that letter he never said that he did this because he was asain. There is no excuse for what he did but in no way was this a hate crime, Gunner is my cousin and we have some asain people in our family, so why would he kill a man of a certain race when that race is in our blood?? He wouldn't. My point is that Ly's murder was not because of his race, but for a reason i don't know.

  • Derek 09/04/2008 11:33:00 AM

    Yes, you should see his current pic, for 33 years old he looks like a beat up 50 year old, fat, haggard and burnt out. His body is probably rotting from the inside out due to his evil persona.

  • Frank 09/03/2008 8:22:00 PM

    It would appear that this guy is demon possessed. there is simply no other explanation for his behavior. He is obsviously a big fan of the occult and satan, which although he probably thinks that is good, he will be getting really aquainted with both in hell.

  • Derek 09/01/2008 8:33:00 AM

    I wish Gunner could be stabbed 50 times like his victim. That would be justice.

 

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